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14. July 2007 @ 18:02 |
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Im looking into building a computer for my younger sister. She's probably not going to do much with it. internet, burning music and Word for homework.
Anyhow, Which route should i take ? Intel or AMD ? Amd has the Sempron for budget builds and Intel the Celerons. I was planning to build her a AMD64 754 socket build. Newegg had a AMD Athlon64 3200+ CPU for $36 but for some odd reason just suddenly stopped. (IMO best bang for your buck CPU) Im going to need one that overclocks well and is stable. (someone told me the Semprons are the better overclockers out of the 2 ) And now for the mobo. ill probably want to spend 50-65 on one i saw a gigabyte 6100 SocketAM2 M-ATX for around that much.
Anyone have any suggestions ?
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15. July 2007 @ 05:41 |
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You're overclocking a PC that browses the net? There's very little point. You can keep the gost down by going with Value RAM (although sticking with a good brand), and keeping the stock cooler. Overclocking requires an upgrade of both of those parts.
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15. July 2007 @ 06:24 |
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what is your price range, right now i would go with an intel, you can get a celron for 45
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15. July 2007 @ 06:27 |
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15. July 2007 @ 15:14 |
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She might do other things than just browsing online, like encoding audio and video files, itunes, maybe even some little kiddy games.
anyhow,
the sempron for $43 is a good deal but.. there was a 64x2 3800+ for like $15 more dollars i might just go with that or if intel maybe a pentium D 805 only 533 FSB its a crippled CPU i geuss. that was around
$60
what do u guys think ?
Ultimately i think i want to spend about 200 on the CPU, Mobo and ram.
I have all the other parts laying around from previous builds.
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15. July 2007 @ 15:38 |
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D805 is better than the Sempron, the 3800+ is much better than the D805.
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15. July 2007 @ 16:46 |
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i got bad news newegg doesnt have it anymore :(
it was the oem version amd64x2 brisbane 3800+ 1.9ghz for $59 darnit i knew i shouldve bought it earlier oh well ill find something else.
btw, sammorris
hoe are you liking that e4300? i heard that you cAn do some insane overclocks with that.
im thinking about going intel pretty soon that looks like a good choice. at 117 not a bad deal at all .
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15. July 2007 @ 17:46 |
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i would try and get an x2 on the 939 socket if i was you, but then ddr is more expensive than ddr2 so what you save on one you need to spend on the other.
e4300 do some good ocing \/\/\/
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15. July 2007 @ 21:59 |
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Haha marsey tends to be a bit partial to the e4300. How about the celerons based on a Conroe core?
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15. July 2007 @ 23:44 |
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Well, how good is the E4300?
My motherboard's pretty suck at overclocking, and I use a cooler I paid £14 for, and yet 3Ghz was a non-issue, that's a 67% overclock. They're awesome, if you want to try overclocking on a limited budget, I'd recommend them.
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16. July 2007 @ 00:23 |
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yeah i think i will for the next build of my own .
i want to try one of those new intel chipsets too p35,g35 or g33 or something like that.
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16. July 2007 @ 01:08 |
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Perhaps, but I'd always recommend sticking with a well known chipset initially, the nForce 6 series has had plenty of issues, as have many previously. The i965P is now mature enough to go with safely.
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16. July 2007 @ 07:09 |
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Yeah the E4300 is a pretty good processor, although the Conroe's still do overclock better. Sammoris, the guys at Anandtech managed to get your board's FSB upto 502 Mhz stable. I don't think you can call it a bad overclocker after that lol.
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16. July 2007 @ 07:17 |
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The model maybe not, but my particular example is awful, the chipset heatsink gets unthinkably hot. I would arctic silver it, but that would surely only make the heatsink hotter and the chip cooler...
As for the other conroes overclocking better, perhaps, but lower mhz CPUs are far more tolerant of air cooling, you can get an E6700 to about 3.7 (40% OC), an E6600 to about 3.5 (45%), but an E4300 up to 3.3Ghz (85% OC).
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16. July 2007 @ 07:32 |
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Yup, and thats why we have the E6300 and the E6400. I guess I'm a bit biased towards the E6400.
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16. July 2007 @ 07:37 |
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and the E6300 only overclocks as far as the E4300 does, you'll struggle to get an E6400 much above 3.3, which makes them a 75% and 55% overclock respectively. The E4300 being cheaper than the 6300, is therefore the better buy.
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16. July 2007 @ 07:37 |
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im not knocking anandtech but i do think they get hand picked samples to test. i and sam have the same mobo, both bought in the uk and he has had quite a hard time getting it to stay stable. i know that mine was simple but we are not always as lucky as each other.
mine will do 440fsb (not sure if thats a cpu or mobo wall) but most of the retail versions of this mobo i have seen have hit around 3.4ghz without any mods. mine will only do 3.3ghz 100% stable tho.
as babrgin ocing chips i think the e4500 is the one to try as it has a x11 multi but they have only been released since i got mine. the new pentium e2xxx (the new celeron) series also has shown some very good results matching their bigger brothers in clock speeds, so they should also be worth considering.
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6300 and 6400 are no longer being made as the 2mb cache chips are now the e4xxx series.
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16. July 2007 @ 07:42 |
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My newest build is with the E4300 overclocked at 2.4 with room to spare. Runs cool as a fridge(32 to42) I love it but I'm still likeing my AM2 3800X2 very much also and I do a lot of video on both.
New build with goodies
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16. July 2007 @ 07:43 |
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4500 you say, 2.4Ghz stock? That would be one to try!
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16. July 2007 @ 07:56 |
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I thought that the Allendales, even though they had a higher multiplier, were limited by the fact that with them the motherboards FSB didnt go very high. I guess not, although buying the E6400 was a decision not exactly rational. I just wanted to try out a conroe.
I think the latest E6300 and E6400 chips were allendale cores as well. I think the L2 stepping is allendale.
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16. July 2007 @ 08:00 |
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They're called Allendales, but they're actually Conroes with 2MB of L2 Cache disabled, the genuine allendales (E4xxx) never had it to start with.
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16. July 2007 @ 08:04 |
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Oh I knew that the B2 stepping was Conroe. It's just that on this page here it mentions the L2 stepping being Allendale. I guess I might just be putting too much trust in wikipedia.
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16. July 2007 @ 08:46 |
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I'm not well up on steppings, I just know that although E6300s and E6400s were badged as 'Allendale' they were effectively still Conroes.
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16. July 2007 @ 08:53 |
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Yeah I noticed at first every one was calling them Allendales, and I was thinking aren't they Conroes? Anyway has anybody seen any review on the new Celerons?
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16. July 2007 @ 08:55 |
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I haven't yet, but they do sound very impressive.
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