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shows freeze on playback right after i burn it
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brett14
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24. July 2007 @ 10:16 |
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im trying to burn king of queens onto a dvd+r dl with vso convert to dvd and it converts them puts them on the dvd then i go to play it on my xbox or playstation or regular dvd player and it freeze on all of them at the same spot, doesnt skip just freezes. not at the beginning like random times during episodes. any help?
brand new memorex dvds dvd+r dl
using latest verison of vso
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JoeRyan
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24. July 2007 @ 11:25 |
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If the freeze is in the middle of the program, then the player(s) are probably freezing at the transition layer when the laser has to refocus from the outer layer to the inner layer. Try changing the bit setting from DVD+R to DVD-ROM if your drive allows it. That always helps. You might also want to try 2.4X media instead of 8X discs if your drive is an older version that might not work with inverse stack production discs.
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brett14
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24. July 2007 @ 12:05 |
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how would i change it from dvd+r to dvd-rom?
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24. July 2007 @ 19:09 |
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What software are you burning your DL disk with? I've heard that ImgBurn is the best for layer breaks. DVD-ROM (Digital Versatile Disk ? Read Only Memory) you can read about it here: http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-dvd-rom.htm
Notice that not all burners have the ability to burn DVD-ROM. I do not know what your burner is, but if you download the free version of ImgBurn there is a DVD-ROM feature to use there. You may download it here: http://www.imgburn.com/
Other software suites offer the same ability to burn DVD-ROM. In most cases when you are recording to DL disk the problem is in the layer break. That is where your players are getting hung up. Give ImgBurn a try and see if it works for you.
Good luck!
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24. July 2007 @ 19:39 |
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Don't know how good is VSO burning to DL, but your problem is using Memorex DVD+R DL. Try using Verbatim DVD+R DL and burn with Imgburn. You will see the difference.
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JoeRyan
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25. July 2007 @ 06:25 |
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Your problem is not necessarily the brand. If the DVD players cannot read the transition layer break unless the disc is a "DVD-ROM," Verbatim won't help at all. That would be foolish advice.
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25. July 2007 @ 07:45 |
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JoeRyan-
I have to stick with toaddub on this one. Memorex is not a good brand of DVD to burn to. If you are going to use them you need to make sure not to burn to the outer edge. That could actually cause the problem in the layer break just as well. Verbatims are a much better quality disk to use. And remember that not all burners can burn DVD-ROM.
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JoeRyan
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26. July 2007 @ 04:44 |
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Memorex DL are, I believe, Ritek DL. They are not as widely compatible with DL drives as Verbatim DL (Verbatim invented DL; so all DL drives include them as a reference.), but they are very good DL discs and not any worse than Verbatim. In fact, Ritek production of DL is probably much greater than Verbatim's; and as production grows, so does expertise.
DL recording only goes to the outer edge if the total data capacity is 8.5GB. Any less than that means the layer transition is away from the edge by the same percentage as actual capacity(in decimal terms) divided by 8.5.
No drive can record a DVD-ROM. The bit setting change is just a change in the disc ID to that of a "DVD-ROM" to fool older DVD drives that could not match "recordable" with "double layer" identification marks. The fact that changing the bit setting got around Panasonic's prohibition of DVD+R/+RW playback in early drives/players was a bonus.
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27. July 2007 @ 23:17 |
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Originally posted by JoeRyan:
In fact, Ritek production of DL is probably much greater than Verbatim's; and as production grows, so does expertise.
Maybe true on the mass production, but does not mean it's better quality. They probably use low quality dye. A disc quality scan after burning is one way to tell.
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brett14
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28. July 2007 @ 00:17 |
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well i tried it another time used vso to encode, then dvd shrink to put all the vobs and all that into an iso then burned it with dvd decrypter and it still freezes, so right now im trying to use nero to encode it. im pretty mad cause i bought 10 disks and theyre 9 seasons and i already messed up 3 disks. so next time ill try verbatim. and hopefully i can get it working with nero, but last time i used nero to make a dvd it wouldnt even play on my xbox i dont know what thats all about, didnt look into it cause i have 3 other dvd players that played it fine
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28. July 2007 @ 06:04 |
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Originally posted by brett14:
have 3 other dvd players that played it fine
When you are using Shrink or Nero Recode set the maximum output to 4430. I have mine set to 4450 but I use TY disk. I suggest this because burning to the edge of the DVD may cause read problems for the player. Also if you have Nero burn with it. Slow down your burn speed to 4x. I normally burn at 8x but if I ever have a problem burn I slow the speed to 4x.
Also maybe don't use DVD Decrypter to burn with. Try the free download of ImgBurn. http://www.imgburn.com/ It is a very powerful burning engine.
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28. July 2007 @ 06:05 |
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Edit: double post!
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 28. July 2007 @ 06:06
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brett14
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28. July 2007 @ 20:22 |
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i think i got it now, tried it one more time, encoded with nero, made iso with dvd shrink burned with imgburn. also i closed anydvd that couldve gave it a problem too. well half the dvd plays on xbox, and all of it plays on my ps2 and comp and other dvd players..already wasted 3 disks though darn, thanks for the help
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JoeRyan
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30. July 2007 @ 09:31 |
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So the problem was not the brand of disc after all.
DL manufacturing in particular involves multiple process steps. Experience is critical to refining the process. The dyes used by Ritek and by MCC are not significantly different from each other. MCC had a year lead on DL manufacturing because they developed DL, and the difficulty in removing the bubbles between the layers was a big headache for them and all subsequent producers. Experience finally solved that problem for both factories, but Ritek lagged behind MCC by that critical year. Now, with higher production volume, a factory can quickly gain the expertise needed to improve yield and disc quality.
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30. July 2007 @ 10:20 |
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Experience is critical to refining the process.
I'm not willing to be a ginuea pig for $2.00+ per disc...I will instead use and recommend the discs with the "highest degree of compatability" until the other manufacturers catch up. Same would be true if Memorex had the headstart and Verbatim was the one lagging behind...I would gladly steer user away from Verbatim if this were the case, but it isn't so I feel recommending the better...oops, I meant higher compatable disc is the right approach.
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JoeRyan
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30. July 2007 @ 10:37 |
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The problem was not compatibility in this case. DL drive manufacturers are including Ritek DL media along with MCC DL media so that they are equally compatible in most drives. Recommending Verbatim DL to "solve the problem" would have wasted the Verbatim discs at $2.00+ per disc and made brett14 a guinea pig because the problem was not related to the disc at all--like so many of the problems people have. Automatically blaming the disc in this case would actually have done exactly what you do don't want to do.
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31. July 2007 @ 03:50 |
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well half the dvd plays on xbox, and all of it plays on my ps2 and comp and other dvd players..
Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but it doesn't sound like the problem has been solved. If I had a DL Verbatim to send out I would, just as a test so the OP wouldn't be a ginuea pig...could be the right compatability would be found.
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