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Possible PSU/RAM Breakdown
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31. July 2007 @ 23:34 |
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PC will not boot up in vista, just as i think it reaches the loading bar the pc reboots. In XP the loading bar appears but freezes and screen is slighty faded and bar does not move across the screen.
When the PC is off for couple hours the pc will boot and seems to be ok then shuts down after 5 mins.
CPU temps - 46-50 W/C degrees c (50-55 not W/C)
Case Temps - 40-50 degrees c
GPU Temps - 48-52 degrees c
RAM Temps - 38-46 degrees c
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400W Enermax Liberty
M2N32 SLi Deluxe
AMD AM2 6000+
4GB Dual Channel Ram @ 800MHZ (GEIL)
2 x 6800XT (SLI)
1x 300GB SATAII
1x 180GB SATAII
Water cooled
I have taken out the water cooling and taken out the 2nd GFX and replaced everything at stock, one fan front one fan back and psu and side fan. fan and copper piped for cpu cooler.
After doing this i have the same issue. CPU is fine as far as i can tell, and i have tried both 6800XTs to eliminate a gfx problem. I can only think that it could be the PSU.
I would appreciate it if anyone had any advice.
1300W Hi-Power
Asus M3A32-MVP wifi edition
AMD AM2 6000+
4GB Dual Channel Ram @ 800MHZ (GEIL)
1x Gigbyte 3870
1x HIS 3870
1x 300GB SATAII
1x 180GB SATAII
Water cooled
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jazbebies
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1. August 2007 @ 00:18 |
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Yeah that is alot of hard ware for that psu to handle there and i think you would need to upgrade sometime in regards to power wattage.
If not already tried- boot into safemode a few times to see any difference by holding in F8 after the bios posts splash screen and selecting safe mode from the menu.
Clearly a reformat and reinstall will fix Windows problems (for a while). But this may be hardware as well. If you can get it i would boot with a Linux Live CD. If everything works, it was software. If that doesn't work either - then its hardware or BIOS setup error.
The live cd's are free by the way.
Also try only using one ram stick at a time, it may be that theres a faulty stick in there somewhere.
So i'd give the safemode a try first then the ram test and if you can try the linuxlive cd. please post back.
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1. August 2007 @ 00:46 |
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Hi,
I tried safemode and still have same issues.. but i didn`t try the RAM, for some reason with the RAM only being a month old (purchase date), that never crossed my mind. i`ll try the RAM once i finish work.
BUT! I did notice prior to this a week ago, I had a glance and the system details on control panel and the pc could only see 3.01GB, but in BIOS it could see the whole 4GB this was the same for XP & Vista...
1300W Hi-Power
Asus M3A32-MVP wifi edition
AMD AM2 6000+
4GB Dual Channel Ram @ 800MHZ (GEIL)
1x Gigbyte 3870
1x HIS 3870
1x 300GB SATAII
1x 180GB SATAII
Water cooled
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jazbebies
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1. August 2007 @ 00:55 |
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Ah theres your problem, should be a simple case of testing each individual memory stick and finding the faulty one.
Your mobo supports upto 8gb so it cant be because of the amount of memory you have.
PD 3.8ghz (OC) Duo, Air Duct tubed Antec p182, 2gb ddr2 800mhz,Adaptec 29320A-R U320, 2 x 72gb 15k scsi hdds, 150gb 10k sata Wd Raptor, 2 x LG Supermulti dvdrw, Tagan TG700-U35 700w, Realtek HD Audio, Nvidia 8600gts (OC) 760/2350mhz Limited Edition HDMI. Yuraku 19" TS.
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1. August 2007 @ 01:59 |
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No probs will check and post details.
Thanks
1300W Hi-Power
Asus M3A32-MVP wifi edition
AMD AM2 6000+
4GB Dual Channel Ram @ 800MHZ (GEIL)
1x Gigbyte 3870
1x HIS 3870
1x 300GB SATAII
1x 180GB SATAII
Water cooled
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1. August 2007 @ 16:07 |
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3.01GB
Vista 32bit will only recognize up to 3gb, and will use only up to that amount, vista64bit will recognize up to 4gb.
I have xp and 3gb of ram, and some of the apps only see 2gb...
But yea, it could be a ram problem/power supply problem.
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1. August 2007 @ 18:25 |
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No, actually 32 bit vista does recognize up to 4 GB and 64 bit will recognize up to 128GB.
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2. August 2007 @ 00:47 |
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Vista 32bit, which i also use only sees 3.50 the same as XP 32bit.
I have tested each ram stick in each bay and still rebooting and freezing occurs. In CPU-z it sees the whole 4gb as well as bios.
The only thing that i can think is either cpu/psu, cpu was attached to the copped piped fan cooler that came with the 6000+ but temps would not go below 46 idle - 55-58 load degrees c, unless i lessend the V.
So attached the water cooler back on to the cpu and now its staying around 36-38 idle, 44 - 48 load
The RPM on the psu only just touching 1000rpm, the manual does state its fine between 900 - 2800 rpm, but im not sure that is quick enough, intime the speed picks up but will not exceed 1100 rpm.
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Asus M3A32-MVP wifi edition
AMD AM2 6000+
4GB Dual Channel Ram @ 800MHZ (GEIL)
1x Gigbyte 3870
1x HIS 3870
1x 300GB SATAII
1x 180GB SATAII
Water cooled
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jazbebies
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2. August 2007 @ 01:28 |
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I was gonna say that it might be that the cpu is set to turn off when it reaches a certain temperature, but as you tried the water cooling which lowered the temp considerably then thats unlikelyto be the problem.
But you could try going into the bios to check the health info to see how its setup, has it been configured to turn off after temp increase of a certain amount? maybe you can spot something else there.
If you can get hold of a PSU just to test, maybe borrow from a friend that has got the same wattage rating maybe more even better. It will certainly rule out if the psu is at fault.
PD 3.8ghz (OC) Duo, Air Duct tubed Antec p182, 2gb ddr2 800mhz,Adaptec 29320A-R U320, 2 x 72gb 15k scsi hdds, 150gb 10k sata Wd Raptor, 2 x LG Supermulti dvdrw, Tagan TG700-U35 700w, Realtek HD Audio, Nvidia 8600gts (OC) 760/2350mhz Limited Edition HDMI. Yuraku 19" TS.
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2. August 2007 @ 01:38 |
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I have looked at the bios, and i also updated to the latest bios, but to be honest there is a couple of options that have dissapeard, i don`t know if this is because of the update or because the bios has lost thhem options. Resetting the CMOS did`nt solve that, but never considered re-flashing.
I can`t see any option to auto turn off pc at a certain temp.
I`ll have to try and grab a PSU, or may just buy one, as its a little small anyways for what i have. Just a shame i sold my 3500+ i cud have tested the cpu. Just a flippin pain!.
i`ll post details on trying a different psu. Thanks for help
1300W Hi-Power
Asus M3A32-MVP wifi edition
AMD AM2 6000+
4GB Dual Channel Ram @ 800MHZ (GEIL)
1x Gigbyte 3870
1x HIS 3870
1x 300GB SATAII
1x 180GB SATAII
Water cooled
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2. August 2007 @ 12:46 |
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recognize up to 4 GB and 64 bit will recognize up to 128GB.
Damn, who would have 128gb of ram????? (Or is that a mistake?)
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jazbebies
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2. August 2007 @ 13:29 |
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Yeah abuzar1 is right there.
servers can mostly benefit with the 64bit edition because of the amount of memory their boards can take but not an ideal OS for them i would imagine. Its good though as when new technology comes out that allows us to use memory of that amount we will be ready for it.
Hopefully very soon in the future.
PD 3.8ghz (OC) Duo, Air Duct tubed Antec p182, 2gb ddr2 800mhz,Adaptec 29320A-R U320, 2 x 72gb 15k scsi hdds, 150gb 10k sata Wd Raptor, 2 x LG Supermulti dvdrw, Tagan TG700-U35 700w, Realtek HD Audio, Nvidia 8600gts (OC) 760/2350mhz Limited Edition HDMI. Yuraku 19" TS.
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2. August 2007 @ 13:36 |
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No it isn't a mistake. I think it was just the limitations of 32 bit. I mean back in the Pentium days I'm sure people would have thought who is gonna ever need 4 GB of ram?
EDIT: Oh yeah and servers do have their own OS so they don't use Vista, at least not our consumer types.
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2. August 2007 @ 14:18 |
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There were quite a few posts so I didn't bother reading them all. But to clear some things up...
For testing RAM you should take out all the stick and try one stick of ram at a time in the #1 DIMM slot. Try booting. If it wont boot with that stick of ram then remove it and place a new stick in the same DIMM slot. This eliminates any variables. Once you have figured out which sticks are good/bad you can move on to testing the other DIMM slots.
Have you overclocked your cpu recently? If so that could very likely be causing your problems. A improper overclock can lead to motherboard failure, damaged/ruined RAM, and general system instability among other things. If you did overclock did you stress test. If not then you likely were to zealous with your overclocking and made your system unstable. It is recommended to run a program like Prime95 for 24 hours to ensure your system can handle the overclock. This program tests your RAM and your CPU and if it reports and error during testing than your CPU is at a unstable clock speed.
Any 32 bit based OS is going to be limited to 4 gb max. With Windows at least the way the memory is mapped is why the system only shows 3Gb.
Any 64 bit based OS with todays hardware can only use 8Gb. Since all modern ATX motherboards have four DIMM slots and the highest amount of memory per DIMM currently available as desktop memory is 2GB per stick.
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I can`t see any option to auto turn off pc at a certain temp.
I don't believe this is a feature on motherboards, but if it is and you didn't have it before and you don't have it now; Then that would not be a reason your system is losing stability.
And I highly doubt your PSU is malfunctioning/broken because if it was either A)parts on your motherboard would be fried or B) your PC wouldn't turn on at all.
"Some people have no damn sense." - Nephilim, March 27 2007 @ 18:08 |
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