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what should I get?
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Sparxchan
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9. August 2007 @ 09:57 |
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AMD or Intel? For gaming.. for everything.. and upgrade city in 3-5 years would be nice.. *dodges beer bottle* Also does over clocking any PC product.. lessen it's life? Just wondering..
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9. August 2007 @ 11:09 |
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uhh... what?!?
Amd for gaming, duel core athlon should work.. Intel is good to.. core 2 duo, maybe even a quad core proc.
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9. August 2007 @ 11:25 |
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Intel Core 2 Duo, and only an Intel Core 2 Duo.
A quad's unnecessary, and an Athlon is slower, simple!
Also, you can overclock the core 2s a lot more.
Unless you do something very wrong, overclocking doesn't reduce the lifespan of quality components very much. If you get cheap parts though, don't bother trying.
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Sparxchan
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9. August 2007 @ 11:29 |
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well that is the problem.. AM2 or duo/quad for intel, all I know.. is I'd like to build something and not have it be obsolete in a year.
I'm using my dad's AMD athlon XP 3200, had to shove a gig of ram and agp video card in it to make it happy but I need something for me.. ^_^
Is intel hyped? or AMD? or should I just pick one and shut up now..
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9. August 2007 @ 11:47 |
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Go with intel, they really are the current best.
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9. August 2007 @ 19:03 |
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Yea intel are the best right now. I just heard somewhere that AMDs were better with video processing, but overall intel is a better choice.
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9. August 2007 @ 19:08 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Go with intel, they really are the current best.
i agree (as will most)
you should look into their new cpus, with 1333MHz FSB
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9. August 2007 @ 20:20 |
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Core 2 Duo is the best choice. It's cheap, reliable, and you can overclock the heck out of it. Like sammoris said don't bother with the quad cores.
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10. August 2007 @ 01:41 |
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Indeed, unless you need to do something incredibly demanding, like rip a DVD whilst folding and then playing a game (and how often does that happen?) You wont need a quad core for many years to come.
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10. August 2007 @ 02:50 |
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lol I can't believe I poster "Dont MOTHER with the quad cores". lol I meant bother.
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10. August 2007 @ 02:53 |
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I can't believe you poster either. Where did you poster it?
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10. August 2007 @ 03:04 |
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HAHA, real funny, I'm having problems with my fingers and the right keys lol.
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10. August 2007 @ 11:00 |
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I have used both over the years and i find the AMD better for gaming and providing you get a good motherboard you will be able to over clock the cpu.I'm currently running my AMD at x2 2.67ghz and i have not pushed it to the limit yet i'm sure it will be able to be pushed some more if i wanted to.I use my PC alot for gaming at the moment as i have not upgraded my ps2 or xbox to newer consoles yet and it really does play all the latest games really well.I'm sure intel will do the same as long as you have a good motherboard fast running dual channel memory and a good graphic card both AMD and Intel will do the business it's just my personal preference.
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10. August 2007 @ 11:24 |
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AMD used to be the best, but that was before the Core 2 Duo came out.
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Sparxchan
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10. August 2007 @ 12:36 |
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alright thanks ^_^
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10. August 2007 @ 13:40 |
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"better for gaming" is a loose term. No processor is much better than another at specific tasks, they're both usually just "generally faster" than each other, and Core 2 Duos not only overclock far more than AMDs, even on cheap-ass motherboards, but also run faster to start with.
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10. August 2007 @ 14:19 |
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Ahhh but Intel have clocked on their newer batches of core 2 duo's are less over clocking friendly. You should go to a shop and check the batch numbers before you buy if you intend to over clock. I was lucky when I bought mine I did not know this but I ended with a batch that had been over clocked from 2.4 GHz to 4.2 GHz cooled on air to 34c.
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=179984
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10. August 2007 @ 14:27 |
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Just chipping in my 2 cents, the Athlon 64's used to rule the CPU playhouse. But the even some of the loweliest Core 2 Duo's can put the hurt on some of the fastest Athlon 64/AMD chips. So to be "future proof" go with Intel Core 2 Duo.
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10. August 2007 @ 14:34 |
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Quote:
over clocked from 2.67 GHz to 4.2 GHz cooled on air to 34c.
Lies.
No matter how high the clock speed started, and how good the revision was, You can't go beyond 4Ghz with air cooling and it not overheat, let alone stay at 34C. Unless this was in a cryo-locker, it's false.
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10. August 2007 @ 16:02 |
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Sam, why can't you go beyond 4ghz with air cooling and not overheat no matter how high the clock speed started? I'm not saying you can (and staying at 34C seems ridiculous) but 4ghz is an arbitrary figure. Do you mean that all current speeds of core 2 duo have been found to have a limit of around 4ghz with air cooling?
What if you are starting with an e6850 @ 3ghz? Is it possible the cpu in question was more like an e6850 but badged as an e6600? Would this still not allow 4ghz on air?
Also, whats the difference between the "extreme" core 2 duo's and the rest? For instance theres this:
http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/112728
and then there's this:
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/...duct_uid=130483
Now, I might be just plain stupid, but why is the slower (clock and fsb) "extreme" e6800 over £400 more than the e6850?!
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humzaSM
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11. August 2007 @ 02:00 |
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well its been done and verified so it cannot be false or a lie
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11. August 2007 @ 02:48 |
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What you're paying for is the guarantee that the CPU can make that frequency without overclocking it. All Core 2 Duos have pretty much the same limit on their maximum overclock, it's just that the lowest ones don't get quite so far due to motherboard restrictions. It's typically around 3.8Ghz I think before you have to have water cooling.
humzaSM: All that's been verified is the frequency it made, not the temperature. It was probably phase-change cooled.
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11. August 2007 @ 13:20 |
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12. August 2007 @ 02:00 |
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Looking at some of the over clocking speeds on the intel starting to wish i went intel rather than sticking with my trusted AMD.Still i have over clocked to x 2 2.67mhz now and for what i use my pc for that's plenty.The design of the newer motherboards now are all set up for overclocking with pipes all over them for extracting the heat so there is no worry about over heating the cpu if your sensible with your system.The other advantage of the intel which i have noticed looking at the intels is most offer a larger cache size than the AMD so at present intel is the way to go until AMD fight back which i'm sure they will.
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12. August 2007 @ 02:05 |
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Yeah exactly, I'd still be content with my X2.
As for that screenshot, it's the best revision, but that's exactly it, whoever got that CPU was VERY lucky, most of them aren't quite as good as that. I can believe that the specific batch he had made 4.2Ghz on air, but I don't believe the temperature you told me. I'd reckon fully stressed under load that'd make high 50s Celsius at least.
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