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suggestions for first build
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rinhater
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31. August 2007 @ 17:15 |
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I have been researching on other forums and this is the setup I have came up with. This is the first time building one on my own and I am little nervous about it. I want to do this right the first time. I will use this setup for gaming, multitasking, media, surfing the net, and other stuff. I don't plan on overclocking any at least not right now. I am open to suggestions. Don't be shy on speaking your mind. I am trying to get as many opinions as possible.
Here is my setup:
Mobo: 219.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188013
CPU: 289.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017
Case: 59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811166004
Ram: 97.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145590
PSU: 139.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341002
GPU: 289.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150173
I have been debating on whether to get a quad core or the E6750. I would like this setup to last me a while without upgrading. Let me know what you think.
I already have a 19inch widescreen monitor, 200gb WD hard drive and a Sony optical drive, mouse, keyboard, and 5.1 speakers. I may get a sound card later on. As far as an operating system, I will probably get Vista Home Premium, just don't know where yet.
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LDee
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31. August 2007 @ 18:17 |
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Personally I would get an E6420, it's got 4mb cache and you can easily get it performing like an E6850 for little over half the cost. Use an after market HSF like arctic feezer 7 pro and you won't even be hotter than stock references.
Or get the e6750 and oc even further and still save around $100.
I know you said you didn't want to oc, but if you can keep the temps down, and it's so easy, and save money, why not?
I don't think you'll see virtually any increase in everyday performance with the kentsfield processers for a long time.
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1. September 2007 @ 07:13 |
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Originally posted by rinhater:
I have been researching on other forums and this is the setup I have came up with. This is the first time building one on my own and I am little nervous about it. I want to do this right the first time. I will use this setup for gaming, multitasking, media, surfing the net, and other stuff. I don't plan on overclocking any at least not right now. I am open to suggestions. Don't be shy on speaking your mind. I am trying to get as many opinions as possible.
Here is my setup:
Mobo: 219.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188013
CPU: 289.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017
Case: 59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811166004
Ram: 97.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145590
PSU: 139.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341002
GPU: 289.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150173
I have been debating on whether to get a quad core or the E6750. I would like this setup to last me a while without upgrading. Let me know what you think.
I already have a 19inch widescreen monitor, 200gb WD hard drive and a Sony optical drive, mouse, keyboard, and 5.1 speakers. I may get a sound card later on. As far as an operating system, I will probably get Vista Home Premium, just don't know where yet.
Looks good, a few things I would change:
PSU - The power supply you have selected is only 70% eff. Look for 80% or better (I am sure it would be fine, but wasting power is no fun). The wattage is good.
CPU - You really don't need a quad core right now, most games wont be able to use its 4 cores, I would look into the new 1333MHz FSB CPUs, I know you don't want to overclock, but I (and the people here) can show you how. (as LDee said you should get a CPU heatsink like the Artic Pro 7, or a Zalman 9500LED, I got one off ebay for $40 from a great seller.).
This is the CPU i would get:E6550
The RAM you have is great, and it will allow you to overclock your CPU very well.
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rinhater
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1. September 2007 @ 07:44 |
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How do you know the PSU is only 70% eff? I looked at the specs and did not see anything about that.
I have been looking at fans and heatsinks. Seems like to me that the CPU heatsinks look really big. Looks like they wouldn't fit in the case.
If I do decide to overclock, I will need help. Do you really know what you are doing? Would it void all the warranties? Some of the stuff I listed has a lifetime warranty. What about fans and heatsinks? If I decide to overclock, would I absolutely have to buy more fans and heatsinks than what comes with the stuff?
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1. September 2007 @ 09:10 |
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The Arctic Freezer 7 Pro is 22 bucks at Ewiz and free shipping, a very good deal. As everyone said you don't really need a Quad Core CPU right now. Get one of the new 1333 mhz FSB cpu, overclock the hell out of it. That's what the core 2s are for ;).
Yes most of us know what we are doing, just look at your sigs and click the links :). The freezer 7 pro will fit in your case, and you wont really need more fans, but it would have been nice if you could get a case with a intake fan in the front for better air flow.
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LDee
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1. September 2007 @ 13:46 |
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Seriously, I wouldn't be hesitant about overclocking. As abuzar1 said, that's what the core2duos are made for. With all mobos nowadays having thermal shut down, and the core2duo's being so good for oc'ing, there is almost nothing that can go wrong. The worst I can think of that is likely to happen is that you could get a cpu from a particularly bad batch that wouldn't enable you to oc it quite as much as a standard c2d (which is flippin loads!). Even that is very unlikely.
And if you need help just post here and plenty of people will guide you and explain what you are doing (or pm me if you want), most of it is very easy to understand anyway.
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1. September 2007 @ 14:36 |
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Originally posted by rinhater:
How do you know the PSU is only 70% eff? I looked at the specs and did not see anything about that.
I have been looking at fans and heatsinks. Seems like to me that the CPU heatsinks look really big. Looks like they wouldn't fit in the case.
If I do decide to overclock, I will need help. Do you really know what you are doing? Would it void all the warranties? Some of the stuff I listed has a lifetime warranty. What about fans and heatsinks? If I decide to overclock, would I absolutely have to buy more fans and heatsinks than what comes with the stuff?
I went to OCZs website to fine the info on it, if you want I will post a link to power supplys with 80%+ eff.
That case you want will be just fine with most heatsinks, I got a zalman 9500 into a very small case.
Overclocking is easy, and everyone here can help you, if you click the link in my sig you can see that I got my E6300 (1.8GHz) to 2.87GHz (now its 2.9Ghz). I am using a zalman 9500, and in the program core temp at full load i get 45c (max for my cpu is 80c) I could get a better overclock, but I think i hit the limit on my ram.
As for fans i have 2 120mm fans in my case. You should be fine with 2 80mm or 2 120mm fans (on front and one in the back)
For warrantys I dont think there is a way they can check to see if it was overclocked (other then ask you and you say it was). So you should be fine there.
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LDee
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1. September 2007 @ 16:33 |
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Allegedly there are ways to tell if the ram voltage has been upped a certain amount and then fried. This is usually at least 2.1v anyway (for ddr2) and more for better ram, so effectivley the ram manufacturers nowadays are saying it's ok to oc aslong as you don't go over a certain voltage for a particular stick. Even if you did and you fried it, I'm not suggesting this is right, but one could just send the ram back to where it was bought, they would test it and find it to not be working and would issue you a new stick, so it's kind of irrelevant.
They wouldn't be able to tell at all though if you are not upping voltages by a lot, and I doubt you will be upping voltages at all.
As for the cpu, they wouldn't be able to tell you oc'd it, even in the extremely unlikely event that it gets fried (as far as I can see it virtually never happens today with core2duo's on normal voltage settings) you could potentially just send it back and get a replacement. The chances you are going to fry something are tiny but to answer your question, even if you did fry by oc'ing, effectivley no your warranty would not be void if you don't up voltages (yon won't be), it would be fine.
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1. September 2007 @ 20:41 |
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My RAM runs at stock 2.2 volts so if you get good quality RAM you shouldn't even need to up the voltage on good RAM. Like Ldee said it would be next to impossible to tell so your warranty should be fine. My overclock is all on stock volts so the need to up voltage isn't all that much.
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