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shawty
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7. October 2007 @ 11:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
all of a sudden my xbox can only read cds, i tried with a dvd and nothing, games the same.
Recently i cleaned my dvd drive with grease and oil and all that, and it worked perfectly for about 1 month, till now
about i week ago, 1 day before it stopped working, i deleted all files on z drive, e:cache and x and y i think it is
my xbox now can only get to the flubber screen while there's a game inside, and it gets stuck on the microsot logo, the moment i eject it, everything loads up perfectly, does'nt matter wether i have my chip on or not.
on the other hand, it read a cd perfectly, only it said that the songs lasted about 10 times their real time, but it read it without trouble
also if i boot xbmc without anything inside the drive, it loads perfectly, but when i insert a game, everything freezes

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7. October 2007 @ 20:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Start a troubleshooting run!

Get hold of another Xbox drive for 10 mins and see if it fixes the issue!

If there is no change, then we're dealing with a software issue!


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8. October 2007 @ 05:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Is it a Thompson DVD Drive, those are known to have problems but the problems are easy to fix.

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shawty
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9. October 2007 @ 03:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
unforunately i cant borrow an xbox drive, as nobody wants to risk it, and it is a samsung dvd drive, i'm guessing maybe first try to troubleshoot the software, anybody know how?

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9. October 2007 @ 04:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That sounds like there is oil and/or grease somewhere it shouldn't be. You need to open it up and clean the laser lens and mirror carefully.

http://www.llamma.com/xbox/Repairs/cleaning_your_dvd_drive.htm

note:: the lasers on the 605f drives have a habit of just dying suddenly. Replacements are easy to find and now are pretty cheap.

I don't think it's a software issue, otherwise it would read no disks at all, not just fail on DVD's. I guess you tried booting an original with your mod disabled?

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shawty
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9. October 2007 @ 12:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
deadlove, before i saw your post, i cleaned my drive, as i had already thought it could be a grease stain on the laser or the mirror or something, and it still isn't working, maybe i have to clean something else as i just cleaned the lens.
about the replacement, i can't get one, i don't live in the US so it's no easy around here
also yesterday i tried with a the cd before cleaning the lens and it read it wihtout problems until i changed track, it just froze until i eject it
the results after cleaning the lens were the same, any other ideas?

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9. October 2007 @ 12:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
fogot to mention some things, i remember that after deleting the files on z: x: y: and e:cache, my xbox was still working perfectly, so my guess is that the xbox is dirty, about three months ago my xbox had a similar problem, it could read anything but took ages or got stuck, so i opened it and cleaned the laser and its components, put grease on the rails and cleaned and put grease on the spiral thingy (motor), but the same week my xbox stopped reading games, i changed it's position and put it vertical, so maybe some grease could've melted (extremely probable round here) and licked onto something that isn't meant to have grease , i'll check it out and post my results

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shawty
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9. October 2007 @ 13:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok i ran some tests, my xbox can now read nothing, absolutely nothing!
i poened the dvd drive, checked if it even turned on the laser, which it did, but it keeps making a sound like if it were trying to reach some point but couldn't
i booted with game or cd on and stood bellow the open drive to check the laser and the deck. the deck only went back and forth about 1 mm, but it seems like it would never get to it's destination, and the last time it read a cd, it sounded like if it were at full speed, no it can't even make half the sound.
it could only read up to song one, then it kept reading back and forth till it got to the end of the cd

deadlove, your guide is for the thomson dvd i think, which is totally different, mine is samsung

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9. October 2007 @ 13:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Could be something obstructing the laser from moving. Try to move the laser back and forth with your finger WITH OUT TOUCHING THE LENS. You aren't supposed to do this, but since its broken why not give it a shot. Try to see if you have to put excessive force to move the laser. If it moves, leave it all the way away from the center and then load something to see if it moves back to the HOME position by itself.
For a New DVD Drive go here:
http://www.richspsxparts.com/xbox.html
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll...rive&category0=

Also try this:
http://www.xbox-scene.com/articles/dvddrive.php

Let me know how it goes.
shawty
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9. October 2007 @ 14:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i tried moving it and it felt preety gentle, i tried putting on the other end as you said, and it couldn't get back to the center, until i turned it on again, but then it kinda kept popping on the center and about 1 mm back,
once it couldn't get back and the next it could, and on and on everytime i tried without exeption, and i noticed that after the first time (before it could get to pop on the center), it got a tiny bit closer to the center (about half mm) and then after turning it off and on again, it came all the way down and popped, this whole procedured happened everytime i tried (about 4 times).
so maybe there's something stuck, i'll try to clean the rail and see what happens

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9. October 2007 @ 15:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If that doesn't work then you could use the other links I sent in the previous post and buy a new drive or use an ordinary DVD Drive.
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9. October 2007 @ 15:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by core2kid:
If that doesn't work then you could use the other links I sent in the previous post and buy a new drive or use an ordinary DVD Drive.







you can buy a used xbox from gamestop now for a song and a dance.
shawty
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9. October 2007 @ 15:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i tried cleaning the kicker motor and regreasing it, but it did'nt work so i'll have to wait til saturday for to get ahold of a pc one just to do tests
i also noticed that when i boot with a dvd (didn't try with cd), the laser starts reading and the speed increases (or at least the dvd sounds boosting), but after about 2-3 seconds, the laser turns off and the speed decreases, not totally but considerably

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9. October 2007 @ 16:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by shawty:
i tried cleaning the kicker motor and regreasing it, but it did'nt work so i'll have to wait til saturday for to get ahold of a pc one just to do tests
i also noticed that when i boot with a dvd (didn't try with cd), the laser starts reading and the speed increases (or at least the dvd sounds boosting), but after about 2-3 seconds, the laser turns off and the speed decreases, not totally but considerably

This is a drive issue but I don't know if its with just the laser or with the whole drive.
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10. October 2007 @ 21:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Read the tutorial for the Samsung in my tutorial section, I'd say you are having worm spindle issues!


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12. October 2007 @ 08:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i saw the vid you posted, and that is exactly the video i used to clean my drive about three months back, and it worked perfectly with a little adjustments, but now it isn't working

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12. October 2007 @ 09:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Time for a new drive
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12. October 2007 @ 18:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I think so...

See if you can source a laser first though!?


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13. October 2007 @ 07:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by chunkhead:
I think so...

See if you can source a laser first though!?

If its not moving on the spindle then I would think that its a problem with the drive itself, not the laser.
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14. October 2007 @ 07:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok got a lot of news to tell you, i got ahold of an lg dvd drive, which of course didn't have the same energy source connection that the xbox dvd drive has, so i had to power it through the pc and connect the ide through the xbox (i'm just posting this so it can help someone), i tried running a dvd movie and guess!?!
nothing -.- i tried with a game and nothing either, cd the same.
however, at the moment i can play forza motorsport and gta vc but in the weirdest way you can imagine. I don't know how, but the lg drive can recognize the files on the dvd if i go to d: (only the lg one can do this), so i tried using dvd2xbox and copy the games to my hdd, but the problem is it could'nt, so i tried with flash fxp and gloriously it could, so i ftp'd these two games to test, and then i ftp'd them back to my xbox to e:games (only one at a time as i have the 10gb drive and only 3.5 gb free) and now i can play them
another strange thing that happened is that i tried with halo 2 and i only got three files, one of them had these weird symbols and the other two didn't, but these files didn't even make it up to 20 mb (as i can remember).
by now i think the issue is not in the dvd drive, but there's a chance it could be both
any suggestions?

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14. October 2007 @ 08:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I don't think the drive is able to read the discs. Something you may want to try is to hook up the XBOX drive into the PC and try to play an audio CD or something. I have never tried this but I'm guessing that the PC should recognize it. I still think though that the xbox DVD Drive is bad. You may want to try a friends xbox drive and see if it works.
Is this what you did?
http://www.xbox-scene.com/articles/dvddrive.php
If you did then:
NOTE:
1/ You can NOT play original discs this way , you will have to reconnect the IDE-cable to the Xbox DVD-drive if you want to play an original games.

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14. October 2007 @ 17:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
at last i've discovered the problem, i tried again to load games with my pc drive, and it seems to me that the games i tried with before (halo 2 and gta vc) were bad or scratched or something i don't wanna know about, but later i tried with a few more games and all of them load perfectly, i mean perfectly without having to go to d: on the settings menu, just by turning on the console with the game on it, it even load faster than the xbox drive
i tried with dvd movies, and it is a bit strange, i can't play them, i can go to d: and load any of the clips the dvd is divided into, but that does'nt matter, as i know it is because the compatibility between the xbmc dvd reading function and the non-perfect compatibility between the xbox and a non-xbox drive, however i could play the clips as i told you
it could read a cd when i tried reading it on ms dash, but the song dissapeared after some time, tried on xbmc and i could'nt read it, but i'm guessing that also has to do with the compatibility and the fact that the xbox has an eject button and the drive too
i tried using my xbox drive on my pc and i could only read cd's, when i tried with a dvd it just did'nt recognize it, the drive did'nt even appear on my pc
i looked into my xbox drive to check if there were anything that could make it not work correctly, but it seems fine
i can't borrow a friends dvd drive, as they would'nt want to open their consoles (none of them have a modded console)

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14. October 2007 @ 17:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by shawty:
none of them have a modded console

First off, they don't know what they are missing!

Second, I think this means that your XBOX DVD Drive is bad. I think you will need to buy another drive. Another way to make the DVD Drive in the XBOX faster is to use an ATA 100 or higher cable (ATA 133 is good) this allows faster transfer rates for the XBOX DVD Drive and the XBOX Hard Drive. The default cable MS uses is an ATA 33 cable which is very slow. I upgraded my cable to an ATA 133 from the default ATA 33 and I saw a noticeable speed difference. Loading Halo from the Hard drive takes about 15 seconds to load a game at the most. I am using a Seagate 80GB 7200 RPM Drive.
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15. October 2007 @ 22:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
so ur saying my drive's dead?
is there anything i could do before thinking of buying a new one?
problem's i don't want to buy another drive and i can't easily buy an xbox drive here, i live in mexico
if i were to buy a pc drive, which one would you recommmend?
I'm having problems with the borrowed pc one, first of all, the power source is not a standard one (i think), also, pc drives have the eject button on the drive itself, which will make kind of a problem because the xbox has another eject button on the front of the case, at last,r getting a drive that will fit in the case will be kind of difficult
is there any store where i can get the original samsung drive without the risk of it being second hand or damaged? (remember i live in mexico, so not all stores are the same, maybe a walmart-like store)

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