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Cobe
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7. November 2007 @ 10:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi guys.. Im building my own computer and want to know what the best possible graphics card is I can get for it? Now the Hardware im running so far is an ASUS A8N32-SLI DELUXE Motherboard with the AMD Athlon 64 FX-57 Processor.

How im trying to pick a very high spec Graphics Card that will be compatible with my Motherboard and so need some help on what my choices of card are. My mother board stats are as follows:

Chipset: NVidia nForce4 SLI X16 (NVidia nForce SPP 100 + NVidia nForce4 SLI)

Expansion Slots: 2x PCI-E x16 ~ 1x PCI-E x4 (Support PCI-E x4 or PCI-E x1 Card) 3x PCI 2.2

Scalable Link Interface (SLI): Support two identical SLI-Ready graphics Cards (Both x16 Mode)

ASUS PEG Link for dual PCE Express Graphics Cards

The Board has loads of other features but I donth think they are relevant on determining a graphics card. Should you need to know anything else please dont hessitate to ask.

So if anyone out there could help me chose a graphics card or even Dual Cards (Which ever the better) then please please reply


Cheers

Cobe
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7. November 2007 @ 11:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If you want high spec, then 2 Ultras in SLi will do. Other than that, how about 2 8800GT in Sli?, or even 1?

You could wait till Q1 2008 for nvidias new 8950GX2 to come out, it will be twice as powerful as a single ultra, and it'll have a gig of vram.

Cobe
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7. November 2007 @ 16:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for the Reply,

The 8800GT Looks a great card but I cannot find under the spec anywhere if it is a x16 Mode..

It says in the manual to my Motherboard that the card must be x16 mode..what is x16 Mode and how do I find out which cards are of that type?

Cheers again

Cobe
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7. November 2007 @ 17:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The 16x means that the card is PCI-express 16x. The 16x is the bandwith at which the card runs. AGP runs at 8x, producing slower performance, and that was the last great technology unil PCI-e took over.

The 8800GT is PCI-e 2.0, which is the newer technology and allows the cards to transfer more bandwith between it and the motherboard. However, PCI-e 2.0 is backwards compatable with PCI-e 16x, so you should be fine.

Can you list the other specs of your machine? And what power supply you have?

Thanks

Cobe
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9. November 2007 @ 16:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well..Actually at the moment my machine consists of a tower, a motherboard some ram and the processor lol..

Sunbeam Samurai Tower,
AMD Athlon 64 FX57 2.8 GHz Processor,
Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe MotherBoard,
4GB DDR Ram

I figured I would get the power supply last that way I can stick what I want in the tower and then get the power supply after to make sure it covers what I have.

Along with either 1 or 2 graphics cards ill put in a soundcard, 2 DVD RW Roms 2 hard drives maybe 2x 400GB or something..Im looking at the biggest I can possibly lay my hands on. a Zip drive and a floppy drive..Uhm...Think that covers everything..

Cheers

Cobe
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9. November 2007 @ 19:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
wow, if you had that much money to burn, why did you go with a AMD duel core? I would've gone with a Intel quad core?

Cobe
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10. November 2007 @ 11:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
To be honest..The Motherboard is AMD based and AMD is supposed to be the new best thing..Ive spoke to a lot of computer technicians and they all said go with AMD..I really dont care how much this computer costs me providing it kicks the dogs goolies then im happy.. I play Americas Army and that really takes a lot out of your machine to be able to run it with full graphics and still get a great FPS.. If I can run that game as stated then I can run any game maxed out lol
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10. November 2007 @ 11:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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I play Americas Army and that really takes a lot out of your machine to be able to run it with full graphics and still get a great FPS..
Have you ever herd of Crysis?

Also, Intel's C2Ds overclock way more than AMDs duel cores, and they are faster. The Q6600 beats the AMD quad core (penryn I think) in multiple tests.

Cobe
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11. November 2007 @ 06:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No not heard of crysis what is it?
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11. November 2007 @ 11:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well if you think AA takes up a lot of juice, then dont bother with Crysis. Heres a video of it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdPrB_lcpBc

(thats actual game footage)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjHzuhHcLGQ

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11. November 2007 @ 12:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Cobe:
No not heard of crysis what is it?
Crysis is just the best looking game in existance. Thats all. :P


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11. November 2007 @ 17:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Crysis is just the best looking game in existance. Thats all. :P
Most advanced, maybe. But I'll argue best looking with Okami :P

AMD is not "top dog" anymore. Intel Core 2 Duo is better. Even AMD dual cores are better(and much newer) than the FX-57. The FX57 isn't even on Socket AM2. Your "techie" friends are behind the times by a good year now.

The best possible card you could get for your non-dual build is probably an X1950Pro 512MB or an 8800GTS 320MB. Both will work with your motherboard.




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11. November 2007 @ 22:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Also Penryn is a Intel Core 2 CPU which is made on 45nm wafers.

8800 GTS is not worth it. The 8800 GT has MUCh more performance and it's CHEAPER. Also Estuansis is right, your techie friends are WAY WAY WAY behind times.
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12. November 2007 @ 12:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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The 8800 GT has MUCh more performance and it's CHEAPER.
Yes, that's true. I would recommend ANY system builder putting together a new system use the 8800GT. Best bang-for-your-buck ever!



AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
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12. November 2007 @ 13:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Excellent..Getting some great feedback.. Uhm..yes it was about a year ago if not longer when I was getting a list compiled of what to put in the machine..this isnt a new thing..I gathered the FX57 is gettin dated as I all the shops i went to to get it said its discontinued..luckily I managed to find one.. reason I chose the FX57 mainly is cos I know its going to be 100% compatible with my Mobo..Providing it does the trick and is faster than a machine you purchase off the shelf..then im happy

Ill definately go for the 8800GT if thats what you recomend...how about 2 of then? can you work 2 of them together? or do you think they will conflict?

Cheers

Cobe
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12. November 2007 @ 14:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah, you can have 2 in SLi, just make sure your Mobo has 2 PCI-e 16x slots, and a chipset that supports SLi. The 680i does from nvidia. Also, I would recommend a good power supply as well. 500watt should be enough.

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12. November 2007 @ 15:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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just make sure your Mobo has 2 PCI-e 16x slots, and a chipset that supports SLi. The 680i does from nvidia.
Don't forget that he's using an AMD motherboard for his FX-57. The 680i is Intel.

He has the ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe. An excellent board with full x16 SLI.

Good choice on that one :)

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reason I chose the FX57 mainly is cos I know its going to be 100% compatible with my Mobo..Providing it does the trick and is faster than a machine you purchase off the shelf..then im happy
Then you'll be happy with an FX-57. It is the fastest Single-Core processor ever released. Admittedly a bit slow by today's standards. But it will get the job done lightning quick.

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how about 2 of then? can you work 2 of them together? or do you think they will conflict?


Your motherboard is perfect for SLI(two video cards). You can use two 8800GTs if you so choose. Just make sure you get two of the exact same card from the same company. This will ensure that they are compatible.

Don't forget to get a decent power supply. Let me give an example of one that would fit your needs:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341002

That's a good, high quality PSU at a cheap price with all the power you'd need to run two 8800GTs.




AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
Detailed PC Specs: http://my.afterdawn.com/estuansis/blog_entry.cfm/11388
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