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Which video card is better?
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popol24
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9. November 2007 @ 19:23 |
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9. November 2007 @ 21:01 |
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The top one (evGA 8800GT) is streets ahead of the Inno3D one. It will play crysis far better.
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9. November 2007 @ 22:52 |
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Agreed, the 8800GT is way better. It costs less, is faster than a GTS, takes up only 1 slot and is almost on par with a GTX for half the price.
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popol24
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10. November 2007 @ 02:26 |
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=) thanks guys! I just have one more question tho. Are there any features of the Inno3D that are superior to the eVGA card? And will I still be able to play cysis with the Inno3D? I've got a quadcore that'll come with any of the video card. And also, I'm a noob when it comes to hardwares and I just want to be able to play games with little or no problem. Thanks again!
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10. November 2007 @ 05:51 |
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Crysis won't run very well at all with the Inno3D GTS because it doesn't have enough video RAM. It doesn't have any features that the eVGA board doesn't have, I assure you.
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10. November 2007 @ 09:43 |
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go with 8800 gt its great but only 256bit bus , u can go with 8800 gts but dont buy with 320mb, 640mb is more future proff and works better in high resolutions u wont go wrong with both of those cards they are amazing ;)
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10. November 2007 @ 11:02 |
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From what I've seen the 8800GT outperforms the GTS even in Crysis, and considering its much lower price, the GT is what I'd recommend.
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10. November 2007 @ 13:49 |
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10. November 2007 @ 13:50 |
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All I see is three "picture not loaded" icons...
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10. November 2007 @ 14:40 |
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popol24
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10. November 2007 @ 20:00 |
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Hmmm.... what do those numbers on the graph mean? LOL
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10. November 2007 @ 20:40 |
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The frame rate the card can achieve (how many pictures per second). Higher is better.
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popol24
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11. November 2007 @ 02:51 |
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The reason I asked this is because I've already bought the Inno3D one =[ So, is there a way I could increase the memory, or make it better, apart from buying a new one LOL? Thanks again!
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11. November 2007 @ 05:29 |
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If you've only just bought it, take it back and swap it. You'll regret it otherwise.
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popol24
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11. November 2007 @ 07:07 |
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I can't =[ I've already asked if I could swap it, they said they can't. There's no other way of increasing its RAM now is there? I've heard that some video card "borrow" memory from the CPU or something. Is this the case for this Inno3D one?
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11. November 2007 @ 07:24 |
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No, it's only the case for the cheapest graphics cards as the process is intolerably slow. You could try selling the GTS second hand and buying the GT new, but second hand buyers may be wise to the market change...
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popol24
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11. November 2007 @ 07:36 |
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How much you reckon I should sell it for? $300? I haven't used this or the computer that will use this at all, believe it or not. I'm still waiting for my custom built pc to arrive lol
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11. November 2007 @ 07:37 |
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Yeah, $300 sounds about right if it's new.
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popol24
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15. November 2007 @ 10:19 |
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Ok I have this pc:
-Antec NSK4000 Black Steel Mini Tower Case - Silver Bezel - NO PSU
-Coolink SWiF Fan 800 - 80mm Fan - Basic Version
-Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 - 'Kentsfield' QUAD Core Processor - 2.40GHz, 64-Bit, 1066FSB, 8MB Cache, VT, LGA775 - BX80562Q6600
-400GB Samsung HD403LJ SATA II 3Gbs NCQ HDD - 7200rpm, 16MB Cache Spinpoint Series
-Gigabyte GA-P31-DS3L ATX LGA775 Mainboard - Intel P31, 1333MHz FSB, DDR2-1066, PCI Express x16, SATAII, GbE LAN, 8ch Sound
-Thermaltake A2088 60cm UV Reactive Rounded FDD Cable - Red
-Crucial 3-3-3 PC2-5300 Ballistix MICRON 2GB DDR2 Kit
-Inno3D 570Mhz 8800GTS Overclocked 320MB 320-bit DDR3, Dual DVI, HDTV, PCI Express X16 interface, Fan, 1800MHz Memory Clock Nvidia Geforce
-Hiper Type M 580W EPS Active PFC PSU ATX2.2/BTX 4xSATA, 8x Component Connectors, 1xPCIe HPU-4M580
Will I be able to play Crysis at all? Yay or nay? =) (Sorry i'm such an annoying bastard LOL)
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15. November 2007 @ 10:21 |
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Unfortunately you have the 320MB 8800GTS, which means although you'll be able to play Crysis fine, you may have to turn down the texture sizes quite a lot.
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popol24
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15. November 2007 @ 19:09 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
you may have to turn down the texture sizes quite a lot.
I've just read something about texture sizes because I have no clue what it is LOL. So basically that means I have to make the window size while playing crysis smaller? I have a 22" widescreen LCD monitor, would I need major texturing?
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15. November 2007 @ 19:26 |
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That's not really what I meant. With games you primarily have four main adjustments to change how good the game looks, and inversely how it performs.
1. Resolution - this adjusts how many pixels the game is rendered in. Unless you have an odd monitor/driver setup, the game will always run full screen regardless of what resolution you run. The game will just look progressively worse as you drop the resolution. If you run a low resolution without Anti-aliasing, it'll look very blocky, like games of old. if you lower the resolution but do have Anti-aliasing enabled, it'll look better than without, but somewhat 'smudged'.
2. Lighting Level - This adjusts the shadows and dynamic lighting effects on the game. Individual shadows on people or rocks, degrading lighting in corners or tunnel entrances, that sort of thing. I usually find this the least noticeable effect in the game, yet it has the most profound effect in performance. If you're looking for a better frame rate, start here.
3. Detail level - This is primarily what I meant about textures. The texture size of the graphics (the quality of the images being rendered), the draw distance of the graphics (how far away you can see them before they either disappear or become simple blocks) and so on. This is kind of a "what do you notice more?" and is very variable depending on your interpretation of the game, and also which game you're playing.
4. Image filtering - Anti-Aliasing and Anisotropic filtering. These two effects essentially smooth up any effects which make the game noticeably not real. AA cleans up blocky edges (aliases, also known as staircases) and AF cleans up fuzzy horizontal angles. Hard to describe, google the terms for more info.
What I usually do is set Detail to High, Dynamic lighting to low or medium, Detail level to max, AA to 4x, AF to 8x and the highest resolution I can run with those settings. If it turns out I can go fine with maximum resolution, I may start turning the dynamic lighting effects up. Find the best compromise.
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popol24
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18. November 2007 @ 20:20 |
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Thanks for the explanation, I kinda get it now lol Anyways, I won't be getting the:
Inno3D GeForce 8800GTS Overclocked 320MB 320-bit DDR3, Dual DVI, HDTV, PCI Express X16 interface, Fan, 570MHz Core Clock, 1800MHz Memory Clock (IV-8800GTS-320T)
Because I've asked for an upgrade and therefore I'll be getting:
Inno3D 8800GTS Overclocked 640MB 320-bit DDR3, Dual DVI, HDTV, PCI Express X16 interface, Fan, 570MHz Core Clock, 1800MHz Memory Clock Nvidia Geforce Graphics Card
http://www.nintek.com.au/x/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=8812
So, would I need to worry about texture sizes for the upgraded one? Cheers!
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18. November 2007 @ 20:25 |
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popol24
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18. November 2007 @ 20:36 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Don't get either, they're both rubbish in comparison to this:
http://www.nintek.com.au/x/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=19901
Which you'll also note is cheaper.
I'm actually getting the upgrade at no additional costs. Also, that video card that you recommended, they don't have it in stock, therefore I must wait even longer, whereas the upgrade video card is in stock. I've been waiting for way too long for the pc setup I mentioned above, so I really can't be bothered anymore LOL. Although, would the upgraded video card play crysis much better? Thanks for your time sammorris, really appreciate it mate!
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