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Little help with with a buget g-card
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18. November 2007 @ 05:29 |
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Hello there i want want a little help with buying a buget graphics card at the moment i have a conect3d x1950 512mb but as evey one knows these cards have loads of problem with crashing and so dose mine got so bad that it now crashis every 5 mins or so some time just open a game but enyways i been looking in to buying a new card i did want to dx10 and my buget is a round £100 ($200) the one i have in mind so far is
HIS ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT IceQ Turbo 512MB DDR3 PCI-E
http://www.microdirect.co.uk/(21119)HIS-...urbo-512MB.aspx
i think it sounds pretty good but i dont konw to much about graphics cards
the games i want to play is gears of war,bioshock and need for speed pro street preferable on full setting
so eny help with finding one would be kool or if this one i have found is good enough
thanx mr_capdown
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18. November 2007 @ 16:59 |
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18. November 2007 @ 17:05 |
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18. November 2007 @ 17:14 |
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First of all, don't buy from Microdirect, they have terrible business practices.
Secondly, the HD2900GT is hardly any better than the X1950 Pro, so I wouldn't bother with it.
If you're limited to £100, then go with one of these
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductIn...roductID=576205
However, I can't hide from you that you won't be able to run the latest games at top settings. On that budget it isn't doable, I'm afraid.
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18. November 2007 @ 17:43 |
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ok thanx 4 the reply and the help
its a shame that i cant just get this card working i all ready put a artic cooler on it and it cant run much colder that it dose
was just tring to play geras of war on it all no low setting and it crashis every 5mins or so
but yer that Sapphire HD3850 look ok 4 now i just found this site telling you about it on gears of war
http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/AMD_Rade...3F/5392-10.html
would the ffs be better 4 me as i will be playing it on 1440 x 900
thanx 4 all the help
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18. November 2007 @ 19:08 |
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The HD3850 won't be quite as fast as the X1950 pro, but it'll be quiet, it should run nice and stable, and it supports Directx 10.1.
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19. November 2007 @ 01:26 |
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lol well it will run faster than mine as it is at a stand still
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20. November 2007 @ 16:43 |
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rite ok sammorris u seem to be the master of graphics card as i seen u helping others on afterdawn in the past year ive been a member let get me a good g-card.
so far for me this year g-card has not been my thing i started the year off with a ati x800 gt powercolor then chopped that in to try crossfire in the form of two X850 XT but playing around in side my computer i broke off one of the solid capacitors off the slave card so then i decideed to get a nice new conect3d x1950 pro 512mb which since the day it went in to my computer never worked i even changed the cooler to the Arctic Cooling Accelero X2 and still no joy so here i am today going for card number five this year so i kinder want to get this right ive upped my buget to a round £180 ive been looking at the HD3870 and kind of like it but if i can get more and fast and better and all the rest of it show me please
my system as it stand is as follow
DualCore Intel Pentium D 820 2.8ghz (clocked to 3500 MHz 14 x 250)
Crucial Ballistix Tracer 2GB ddr2667 (clocked to speeds of ddr2800)
mobo Abit AW8D (crossfire)
Seagate sata2 80gb main drive
seagate sata2 500gb back up drive
ATI Radeon X1950 Pro
psu 570W Pro PSU Dual Fan PW-5500
philips 19" php-x19w 1440x900
Windows Vista Ultimate
now to get this computer up to a good gamming level what do i need for it you recomend and i see what i can do about getting it
thanx for the help so far
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20. November 2007 @ 17:28 |
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Unlucky about your success in the past, fortunately graphics cards have been the one solid workhorse of my PC. I've only ever had to change when it's time for an upgrade.
I'm not sure whether you see this as fortunate or unfortunate, but your monitor is a low resolution, so consequently you won't need quite so much graphics power to get decent gaming performance.
On that budget given the current climate I'd recommend you try and get hold of a Radeon HD3870. At that resolution it'll run pretty much anything (maybe with the exception of Crysis on very high), and will continue to do so for quite a while. It puts out the best picture of any graphics card, and since you're a Vista user, you'll be able to make use of its Directx 10.1 capabilites.
The only downside to the card is that current availability of them is very low, so place a pre-order and hope you get one soon!
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20. November 2007 @ 17:38 |
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ok the kool
out of all the HD3850 what one do recmend that i go for
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20. November 2007 @ 18:16 |
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No, an HD3870. There's a big difference.
Out of all of them, I recommend Sapphire
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102713
I'm curious as to what the reviews mean about Sapphire's tech support. All of the Sapphire cards I've owned (I've had three) have worked perfectly. Besides, legally for the first year of ownership of something like a graphics card, it is the retailer's responsibility for replacement, not the manufacturer, so I think those who give it a negative review are talking rubbish.
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23. November 2007 @ 16:09 |
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well pay day soon so i will be buying the HD3870 Sapphire thanx for the help
BUT
one more thing
since you know your card so well i gussing your a gamer and know your gaming hardware i need a new cpu and i dont now what to go 4 it out of two
Intel Pentium EE D 965 D965 3.73GHz 1066 FSB
INTEL 2 CORE QUAD Q6600 1066 FSB 8MB CACHE
but problem it if i go for the q6600 i need to get a new mobo two but to be honest i like this mobo so out of the two what would u say
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23. November 2007 @ 21:53 |
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From a gamer's standpoint, I'd say neither. The D965 is too slow for its ridiculous power consumption, and the Q6600 is unnecessary overkill if all you do is play games.
Get a Core 2 Duo E6750.
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23. November 2007 @ 23:41 |
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24. November 2007 @ 01:32 |
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Dual-Cores are not worth it anymore and are slowly going to be phased out by quads. Older games and programs that do not support full multi threading usually do perform better on dual cores, but not by much at all. As more and more programs and games become multi threaded (especially supporting all four cores), quads will be superior in performance. What I do suggest is that you wait until the Yorkfield quads come (Q9300 $266 or Q9450 $316) in January and then make your purchase.
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24. November 2007 @ 01:47 |
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It'll be a long while before I will be buying a quad core. As far as I can see at the moment, it's pointless buying a Quad core CPU for the reasons you describe. Not until intelligent Quads come out that can assign multiple cores as one thread. All applictions benefit from having 2 cores because the system can respond to multiple applications at once, and the number of games that recognise multiple cores and gain performance from them is ever increasing, and becoming quite large. Personally, I think a dual core is the best decision you could make right now, and unless you do high-end video editing work, Quad cores are best left alone for a considerable length of time.
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24. November 2007 @ 05:46 |
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high speed Intel Pentium EE D i reckon you could get about 5ghz out of it
right then mate thanx for all the help let hope things are done right my my pc this time and it work better just a quick one what spec pc do have is just that i could not find it i your profile
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24. November 2007 @ 07:54 |
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Mr.Capdown, you realize that you SHOULDN'T get the Pentium D right? Just makin sure.
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24. November 2007 @ 07:59 |
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ok why would that be
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24. November 2007 @ 08:05 |
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It takes up too much power, makes too much heat, and the performance is crap. Go get a C2D or C2Q.
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24. November 2007 @ 08:24 |
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Plus you wouldn't be able to get one to 5Ghz, not without some ridiculous vapour compression cooling anyway, and even then it'd probably only last a few months before the excessive voltage caused electronmigration and destroyed the CPU.
All this said, even at 5Ghz, a 2.66Ghz Core 2 Duo would be faster, that's stock, before you've overclocked it. You can get 4Ghz out of those things too, on normal air cooling (albeit with a large heatsink).
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24. November 2007 @ 08:29 |
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sounds interesting not to sure what to do now sine this mobo dont take c2d or c2q
this what it can have
LGA 775 Motherboards
Model Name AW8D
NB Chipset i975X
Supports FSB 1066 / 800 / 533MHz
Last Update: November, 2007
CPU List FSB MB Rev. BIOS Ver. Result
Pentium EE 965 1066 All 12 OK
Pentium EE 955 1066 All 12 OK
Pentium EE 840 800 All 12 OK
Pentium D 960 800 All 12 OK
Pentium D 950 800 All 12 OK
Pentium D 945 800 All 12 OK
Pentium D 940 800 All 12 OK
Pentium D 930 800 All 12 OK
Pentium D 920 800 All 12 OK
Pentium D 840 800 All 12 OK
Pentium D 830 800 All 12 OK
Pentium D 820 800 All 12 OK
Pentium D 805 533 All 12 OK
Pentium 4 EE 3.73GHz 1066 All 12 OK
Pentium 4 EE 3.46GHz 1066 All 12 OK
Pentium 4 EE 3.4GHz 800 All 12 OK
Pentium 4 661 800 All 12 OK
Pentium 4 651 800 All 12 OK
Pentium 4 641 800 All 12 OK
Pentium 4 631 800 All 12 OK
Pentium 4 672 800 All 12 OK
Pentium 4 670 800 All 12 OK
Pentium 4 662 800 All 12 OK
Pentium 4 660 800 All 12 OK
Pentium 4 650 800 All 12 OK
Pentium 4 640 800 All 12 OK
Pentium 4 630 800 All 12 OK
Pentium 4 571/ 570/J 800 All 12 OK
Pentium 4 561/ 560/J 800 All 12 OK
Pentium 4 551/ 550/J 800 All 12 OK
Pentium 4 541/ 540/J 800 All 12 OK
Pentium 4 531/ 530/J 800 All 12 OK
Pentium 4 521/ 520/J 800 All 12 OK
Pentium 4 519 533 All 12 OK
Pentium 4 506 533 All 12 OK
Pentium 4 505/J 533 All 12 OK
Celeron D 365 533 All 12 OK
Celeron D 356 533 All 12 OK
Celeron D 347 533 All 12 OK
Celeron D 351/350 533 All 12 OK
Celeron D 346/345/J 533 All 12 OK
Celeron D 341/340/J 533 All 12 OK
Celeron D 336/335/J 533 All 12 OK
Celeron D 331/330/J 533 All 12 OK
Celeron D 326/325/J 533 All 12 OK
Celeron D 320 533 All 12 OK
Celeron D 315 533 All 12 OK
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24. November 2007 @ 08:38 |
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Time to upgrade the motherboard methinks...
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24. November 2007 @ 09:45 |
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damm it i love this board and i new u would say that defo lol
well well im sticking with abit might see what the aw9d max is like
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24. November 2007 @ 16:10 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
It'll be a long while before I will be buying a quad core. As far as I can see at the moment, it's pointless buying a Quad core CPU for the reasons you describe. Not until intelligent Quads come out that can assign multiple cores as one thread. All applictions benefit from having 2 cores because the system can respond to multiple applications at once, and the number of games that recognise multiple cores and gain performance from them is ever increasing, and becoming quite large. Personally, I think a dual core is the best decision you could make right now, and unless you do high-end video editing work, Quad cores are best left alone for a considerable length of time.
Yea, but how long are you willing to wait for true quads to be released. If you are going to make a purchase today then the Q6600 is the logical way to go ESPECIALLY if you plan to keep your computer for more than two or three years. Programs that do support four threads have shown as much as a 30% performance gain over dual cores. Sure you will not get those five extra framerates in Supreme Commander when you do use a Q6600 as opposed to a E6850 today, but lets look one, two, or three years ahead. By then it will be a whole new ballgame and if you did purchase a quad core today then you will be in a much better situation three years from now than if you decided not to make that investment.
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