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Problems with Live Free or Die Hard
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PacMan777
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26. November 2007 @ 03:57 |
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I've been getting a run time error and the 0003 buffer error according to how I process the input files. Using AnyDVD and DVDFab Decrypter leads to a buffer error. Process the files with FixVTS and I get a run time error. If I use the old trick of processing through Shrink, I still get a run time error. I successfully used DVDFab Platinum to make a watchable backup of Live Free or Die Hard. Only one scene had a frame appear to hang for a couple seconds. I've run out of things to try. The release has interleaving if that makes a difference and the failure usually occurs in the Rebuild segment.
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26. November 2007 @ 23:57 |
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I just finished the region 1 version of Live Free or Die Hard using Ripit4Me and DVD Rebuilder pro with no issues. I have been having some problems with the ripped files from DVDFab going through Shrink or Rebuilder. Is your disc the one with the un-rated and theatrical releases?
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PacMan777
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27. November 2007 @ 03:34 |
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Is your disc the one with the un-rated and theatrical releases?
Yes. I'm not sure if I got the RipIt4Me to work or not. I did this one so many ways. The transcoders I tried worked after processing with FixVTS. RB is the only program I can't get to finish the task.
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27. November 2007 @ 04:36 |
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27. November 2007 @ 04:38 |
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There seems to be some debate about which program is causing the trouble, here are a couple of threads to check out
Source Corrupt Using DVD Rebuilder
http://club.cdfreaks.com/f116/source-cor...builder-232568/
Error? Message when rebuilding
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=132108
All I know is that for me Ripit4Me had no problems with this movie. The files were ran through Rebuilder in movie and menu only mode with no issues, when ripping the same disc with Fab Rebuilder gives errors in the rebuild phase. Hopefully between Jdobbs and Fengtao they will get this fixed.
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PacMan777
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27. November 2007 @ 07:14 |
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My issues were with Full DVD. With a single version and menus the compression is at 89%. No need for an encoder at that level. As I mentioned, there is no problem with the transcoders.
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29. November 2007 @ 15:08 |
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I haven't had any problems with it. I used AnyDVD to strip the protection and Imgburn to rip the image, then I burned it to a dual layer DVD with Imgburn and it plays fine.
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PacMan777
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29. November 2007 @ 17:29 |
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Originally posted by Joshewah:
I haven't had any problems with it. I used AnyDVD to strip the protection and Imgburn to rip the image, then I burned it to a dual layer DVD with Imgburn and it plays fine.
How is that relevant to a discussion about a Rebuilder problem? I've got the backup, I just can't do Full DVD with RB.
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29. November 2007 @ 21:19 |
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i'm still having problems with POTC3 and DVD Rebuilder, am participating in 3 threads over at cdfreaks, have hit a wall with regards to DVDFab, most fingers are pointing at DVD Rebuilder (which i don't fully agree with btw), DVD Shrink (and i think other transcoders) work fine but still Rebuilder is being called the culprit; shame, especially as the nasty protections in the latest few movies are in effect only partly beaten which can only mean more problems as more newer movies come along, 'fraid i can see myself going down the AnyDVD route at this rate
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29. November 2007 @ 22:55 |
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Originally posted by PacMan777:
Originally posted by Joshewah:
I haven't had any problems with it. I used AnyDVD to strip the protection and Imgburn to rip the image, then I burned it to a dual layer DVD with Imgburn and it plays fine.
How is that relevant to a discussion about a Rebuilder problem? I've got the backup, I just can't do Full DVD with RB.
Woops sorry NVM. Forgot where I was.
And geez, no need to be so snippy, stress will be the end of you.
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PacMan777
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30. November 2007 @ 05:28 |
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I'm with you. I don't think it's all RB's fault. But... and that's a big but, it's failing when some of the other programs are working. Some of the software programs have recently been updated though. No doubt it's new copy protection with some of the newly releaseed DVDs. The program was working with most of the previous releases. Looks like it's time for JDOBBS to do an update. What I'd really like to see is a decryption program that can completely clean up the source files so any program can process them without problems.
Joshewah
I wasn't trying to be snippy, I just asked the relevance as a reminder of what the thread topic was. I was curious to see if anything was being done about RB. There was no interest in "can the backup be done", but with "why can't the backup be done with RB". Other than Creaky commenting on his findings, the forum doesn't seem to be too active lately.
I didn't mean to "put a burr under your saddle". As for the stress, I don't think doing DVD backups will do me in. I actually go looking for DVDs said to be more difficult. Some people like puzzles, I sometimes see getting things done with a PC as puzzling. To each his own games. When I'm doing backups and research it's more like entertainment. I meant no offense.
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30. November 2007 @ 12:28 |
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No offense taken. :D
I actually noticed a correlation between you and fixing problematic DVDs, it was first noted with Saw 3, you had the solution to everyones problem there. (I lurk a lot in all the forums)
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PacMan777
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30. November 2007 @ 13:12 |
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Originally posted by Joshewah:
No offense taken. :D
I actually noticed a correlation between you and fixing problematic DVDs, it was first noted with Saw 3, you had the solution to everyones problem there. (I lurk a lot in all the forums)
LOL Guilty as charged. ;) Sometimes we need to use the software creatively while waiting for software authors to update for new copy protections. It pays to have several options when it comes to software and trying to back up new videos on release day.
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1. December 2007 @ 09:37 |
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1. December 2007 @ 09:45 |
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Did anyone ever get the full movie through rebuilder.If so how did you do it. I've finally given up. Chris
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1. December 2007 @ 10:07 |
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4.0.1.6 Beta (Dec 1, 2007)
- New: Added option "Remove useless cells", you need disable it to make DVDFab compatible with DVD Rebuilder.
- New: Updated A/V codecs for "DVD to Mobile".
- New: Updated language files.
- Fix: "Clone" mode may fail when copying data DVD in certain cases.
- Fix: A corrupt data problem when copying chapter range of "Main Movie".
- Fix: A crash problem when using command line interface.
- Fix: A crash problem when converting DVD with DTS audio selected, in certain cases for "DVD to Mobile".
- Fix: A "process failed" problem when using h264 2-pass encoding, in certain cases for "DVD to Mobile".
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1. December 2007 @ 10:16 |
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I can do this movie [full version]other ways but I can't do it through rebuilder. It seems like Rebuilder is finding something other programs are missing. I even tried the free version of Rebuilder and that sent me back to the pro version.Only good thing on the free version maybe had 8 minutes before it sent me to the Pro version. Chris Edit all my roads lead to RB.
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3. December 2007 @ 19:25 |
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Did anyone ever get the full movie through rebuilder.If so how did you do it. I've finally given up. Chris
I was able to get the full movie to go through Rebuilder using Ripit4Me to rip the files. The latest DVDFab still makes Rebuilder fail during the rebuild phase.
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3. December 2007 @ 20:46 |
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I was thinking of buying this movie, any good by the way? I liked the others... Anyway
I've read about this both here and in the other links given by wolfmanz(thanks). Someone please breakdown to this dummy, what RI4Me does differently than others? I mean it rips, then cleans with fixVTS, and if other people finish with DVD-RB they arent using the shrink part so whats different? Other rippers with not only FixVts but also VobBlanker havent worked, but DVDDecrypter and the PSL plugins have.
Once again, what have I missed?
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3. December 2007 @ 22:27 |
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I was thinking of buying this movie, any good by the way? I liked the others...
I thought it was good
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Someone please breakdown to this dummy, what RI4Me does differently than others? I mean it rips, then cleans with fixVTS, and if other people finish with DVD-RB they arent using the shrink part so whats different? Other rippers with not only FixVts but also VobBlanker havent worked, but DVDDecrypter and the PSL plugins have.
From what I have gotten out of the other threads the problem with Fab is the way the corrupted cells are dealt with during the rip they are not as compliant as the files ripped with Ripit4Me. Hopefully between Jdobbs and Fengtao they will get this issue worked out soon.
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PacMan777
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4. December 2007 @ 04:59 |
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RipIt4Me uses DVD Decrypter and automatically builds PSL files for DVDD when needed. Most of the time that's a good decryption method. There's only a very few of the newer releases that RI4M can't process. As for processing with FixVTS, the program figures out if the files need FixVTS processing or not. If not, the files can be opened in Shrink. Besides the VOB cleanup done by the FixVTS software, RI4M also does an IFO cleanup. To really see all that RI4M does, go through all the steps using the wizard method. For the user wanting files for RB, they can simply let it rip the files to open in Shrink and close Shrink down. Quick analysis in Shrink is a common test for DVD compliance. I run it occasionally if I think there might be a compliance problem. You get the test automatically when running RI4M. Basically RI4M rips and cleans the source files in one smooth process. RI4M has been able to do a lot of new releases while others were waiting for Slysoft and DVDIdle to get the updates out.
If you liked the previous Diehard movies, you'll like this one. I like it better than the earlier ones.
It turns out with Live Free or Die Hard that it can be ripped with DVD Decrypter by itself. In fact for RB users this is probably the best route to take. I'd tried the other decryption programs and variations with them. RB kept getting errors. I ripped the full DVD with DVD Decrypter, I did not use FixVTS or anything to further process the files, I opened the source files in RB, let RB/CCE encode and build an ISO, and I burned with Nero Express. I've not watched the whole DVD yet, but skipping through the scenes everything appears to be in good condition. If anything the other decryption programs were over processing the source files and altering the structure enough to cause RB errors. Guess jdobbs doesn't need to do anything for Live Free or Die Hard since the software to rip it is still floating around for free.
Edit: For some reason RipIt4Me errors out when I open the DVD in 1-Click. Normally the 1-Click method is the best. It's a runtime error saying the system is out of resources. I can switch to Wizard or use DVD Decrypter and everything works the way it's supposed to. I'll run the RI4M processed files through RB later to see what happens. Better yet, I'll take wolfmanz word for it and save myself the trouble. ;) So, this is another success story for RI4M and DVD Decrypter. DVDD gets extra points because it does the job faster by itself. LOL
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4. December 2007 @ 06:38 |
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- New: Added option "Remove useless cells", you need disable it to make DVDFab compatible with DVD Rebuilder.
This option does not work for this film.
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If anything the other decryption programs were over processing the source files and altering the structure enough to cause RB errors. Guess jdobbs doesn't need to do anything for Live Free or Die Hard since the software to rip it is still floating around for free.
Looks like Fengtao and Slysoft are the ones with the work to do as this is not the only film causing problems.
Another thread on this subject has been started at Doom9
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1072433#post1072433
Just goes to show what a solid combination DVD Decrypter and Ripit4Me make!
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4. December 2007 @ 12:52 |
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I didnt have any problems with Die Hard 4 using Rebuilder 1.26.5. There were a bunch of files according to VOB Blanker that were dummies or something (I forgot). However....during playback..in the first half of the movie.there are several loud pops that occaisionally occured. Also I noticed 2 artifacts in the 2nd half of the movie. It was like a square near the middle of the screen with blanked out squares. I used ANYDVD and Rebuiler Pro (latest version) and VOB Blanker (latest version) and Decrypter. Everything ripped and encoded in Rebuilder without a hitch. But will have to make another backup as to try to get a backup that plays without these problems. Also, once, the movie froze for like 2 seconds (much longer than a layer break freeze).If anyone knows why the playback is flawed please help..:)
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PacMan777
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4. December 2007 @ 13:39 |
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The solutions were posted by wolfmanz and me just a few posts back. Rip the files with DVD Decrypter 3.5.4.0, no further processing needed. Use RB and you should get an excellent backup. I watched mine and it looked like watching the original. Wolfmanz got his backup using RI4M, which incorporates DVD Decrypter. The program has extra steps not needed with this release, plus I couldn't get 1-Click to work on my system (had to use Wizard).
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6. February 2008 @ 14:17 |
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I've just tried backing this up, to portable HDD, using both DVDFab and DVDDecrypter and both had odd results. The main menu for the disc plays through but doesnt let me select anything, and the film is out of sync. Also, the first chapter, once finding it, has NO sound! All other chapters work perfect! Once backed up should I be running the files through something else before watching it??
UPDATE: Main Movie ONLY with DVDFab = problem solved!
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