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DVD Decrypter, gone forever :(
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20. June 2005 @ 14:29 |
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i read on another forum a supposed quote from the auther of CloneDVD...Quote:
i would be happy if you use CloneDVD but dispite common belief you can combine AnyDVD with DVD Decrypter just do the following....1)use Elby CDIO as the I/O model....2)disable the structural protection remove in DVD Decrypter....DVD Decrypter will see the disc as unprotected and will continue to work forever.
....So as is apparent we can continue to use DVD Decrypter for ever. How ever we would have to purchase AnyDVD to work with it.... the thread also said that LUK himself say's that AnyDVD clashed with DVD Decrypter. But now LIGHTNING has been effectively gagged we can't ask for his comments. I have not tried this myself because AnyDVD causes havoc with my system. will this work or is it just bullsh*t.
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20. June 2005 @ 19:57 |
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@gurnard, I just tried ripping a small single layer movie with Decrypter and AnyDVD as a test. I disabled all the decrypting properties of Decrypter and let AnyDVD do its thing. It did rip OK. Its late so I'll try burning it tomorrow. It does seem to work but doing that is defeating the main purpose of Decrypter. It was nice to have an excellent FREE decrypting program that worked on almost all dvds and was updated quickly for new encryptions. I am a firm believer in the power of AnyDVD and along with CloneDVD they are my main programs for dvd backup. It was good to have Decrypter as a free backup program. Its not dead yet, but the way the movie companies keep changing encryptions as fast as they do, it won't be long before Decrypter can't handle the newer movies of the future.
Jerry
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brobear
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20. June 2005 @ 20:06 |
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I use AnyDVD along with DVD Decrypter and by itself. The main reason I use AnyDVD with DVDD is for the Navigation features, bypass the trailors and go to the movie or title menu. I've not needed to change any settings from default. I only had interference between the 2 apps on one movie due to bad sector encryption. Strange that it didn't do it with other movies with the same type encryption. Just turned off the AnyDVD and all was well. However, since then (several versions back), I've had no problems. So, I can honestly say, DVD Decrypter and AnyDVD play well together. I know several people using the programs together without problems. No setup is 100%, but I'd guess AnyDVD and DVD Decrypter would work for most people needing a setup to rip to the HDD.
So far, just for ripping, AnyDVD isn't a necessity in most cases in combo with DVD Decrypter, nor is DVD Decrypter necessary for use with AnyDVD. A lot of recording programs can write to the HDD and all that is needed is to decrypt, which AnyDVD does an excellent job of. (There are other rippers, but Island Thunder has it together on AnyDVD and keeps it upgraded much better than others.) DVD Shrink set to no compression also makes a good ripper to the HDD.
"Big Brother" messed up the freeware options, but there are still excellent retail options. Also, DVD Decrypter has only lost its support. The app is still out there and being distributed from areas not controlled by the movie industry and its lackies. To date, it still rips most movies available. In a few months, who knows? Me, I hope fair use laws prevail and the ripper software becomes legal universally. Short of that, I hope some countries realize where the true freedom issues are and don't bow to the whims of politicians paid for by the movie industry.
Cost for a retail app? Frugal is one thing, obsessive behavior is another. No insult here, but some people go too far. They may not buy a program, but they buy expensive hardware and equipment to do a task like record DVDs. Why buy a DVD burner if you're not intent on using it (I know, some only do home movies)? What is the cost of a 50 spindle of good recordable media? Everyone can make their own decisions. I got AnyDVD some time back. (About the cost of a 50 spindle of media and a one time purchase. I've paid more for recording apps.)
Though I hate to see the loss of DVD Decrypter, it will little affect my ability to backup my DVDs. I'm sure I'm not the only one. DVD Decrypter was the best freeware ripper, most of us will agree there. It's loss of support is sad due more to the state of the political community than it's actual effect on backing up DVD media. People will simply have to prioritize a few dollars from hardware and recording media and get some better software from the retail scene, unless something else replaces DVD Decrypter. There is some lead time here to save up. DVD Decrypter still works. We'll continue to hear how great the app is/was and the horrible state of affairs. Until the political bodies change, I see no change in the state of affairs concerning recording. Gives us something to complain about though, doesn't it?
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20. June 2005 @ 20:14 |
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I hope that someone with the proper programming knowledge will take Decrypter apart and see what makes it tick, then start updating it again from a safe location.
Jerry
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brobear
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20. June 2005 @ 20:18 |
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Problem is, they may start selling it. Let's hope it can be maintained and remains freeware.
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20. June 2005 @ 21:49 |
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Nothing out there is for freeeeeeee! There will always be someone out there saying, "No, you can't have this so I will pass a law prohibbiting you from using it and then we will arrest you for doing so.......... and yet......... we will allow you to buy your computers with expensive hardware that I and the computer world will get rich from and then arrest you cause you have free programs that you didn't buy from us and I prohibbit you from using!" why would they make all this equipment and take away your right to use it????? For that matter, they should arrest people who buy Ipods cause they put music on there!!!! We will let you buy it but don't put music on it!
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Mystakill
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21. June 2005 @ 07:04 |
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Well IMO, LUK said to never use AnyDVD with DVDD, it causes problems, whats the use anyhow, you dont need it.
DVDD rips it, Shrink compresses it and DVDD burns it!
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21. June 2005 @ 07:41 |
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What will you do when the next encryption changes are made that Decrypter won't be able to decrypt. You will have to use one of the other choices that are still updated on a regular basis. That was the reason behind the test using it with Anydvd. Anydvd does work with Decrypter if done properly. The choice is yours. No one is trying to force anything on you.
Jerry
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Mystakill
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21. June 2005 @ 08:10 |
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I was just simply stating people are already trying to use it along with it when its not even needed, why fix something that isnt broke yet. DVDD will be able to handle it all for some time to come.
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21. June 2005 @ 08:35 |
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hi
HITCH ????
Nothing here to see, move along folks.
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21. June 2005 @ 11:50 |
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Just posted on the Official Hitch thread that DVDDecrypter handled Hitch like a piece of cake, I do not know what the problem is with this movie. I bought it, cleaned it, ripped in file mode, had two dummy sectors inserted and Decrypter moved right along. Decrypter might be gone but it is still doing its job. My two cents :~)
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jer2911tx
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21. June 2005 @ 12:07 |
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had no problem here with hitch....
stand by me, on the other hand, i gave up on
usually burn with laptop: dell, XP SP1, P4 2.66ghz, 384mb RAM, HL-DT-ST DVD +RW GCA-4040N burner
desktop: dell, Win 98, P3 800mhz, 512mb RAM, Lite-On 1673 burner, cheapo DVD-Rom drive
media i am currently using: verbatim - MCC-003
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21. June 2005 @ 12:21 |
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hi guys @Jerry746 thanks for your input. i dare say i would use AnyDVD if i did'nt have problems with it. i'm not knocking AnyDVD by any means. i like to use the Cyberlink Power 2 go 3 that came with my computer for various things. AnyDVD does strange things with it. so i use shrink....DVD Decrypter...DVD43 in the background. if the time comes when i really need AnyDVD i will have to disable Power 2 go 3. (no prob) @ arniebear just reread the thread did'nt realise you had already said on the 11th and 13th the very thing i had posted about (missed a few days whilst i was at sea) i apologise :) geoff
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21. June 2005 @ 15:51 |
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I agree with Aniebear!!! DVDDecrypter is the best out there and then I use DVDRemake to do what I want with it....... did a fine job on Miss Congeniality 2 just fine! after which I burned on Shrink! happy burnig to all!
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22. June 2005 @ 05:07 |
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Anyother thing about DVDDecrypter............STILL THE BEST AND IT KEEPS ON GOING! After another burn session with Miss Congeniality 2, Coach Carter and an oldie, CaddyShack, DVDD is reining supreme! I may be new to this and all the forums out there but I have been burning for years now. As a newbie I have learned from this forum everything from soup to nuts! And because of places like this and programs like DVDDecrypter, DVDRemake, DVDRebuild, DVDShrink, I find total control over a DVD! I'm having fun and I love that abiltiy to take something and mold it into what you want in a backup! I'm just happy that there are forums like this that help out everyone! And Afterdawn is a great place to start with! Long Live DVDDecrypter, Hail to the king! hahahaaha
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axlman
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22. June 2005 @ 12:24 |
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I Totally agree 100% with IHOE!!!!
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axlman
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22. June 2005 @ 12:27 |
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I also backed up Hitch the other day. No problems at all, but I did find that my standar DVD Rom drive didn't like reading the disk, even though I set all my book-types to "DVD-ROM". Oh well, still played back fine in my Plextor burner as well as my older GE DVD Player!
Thanks onece again to DVDD!!!!!
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22. June 2005 @ 12:42 |
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ive used decrypter and AnyDVD for a long time and ive never had any problems.
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22. June 2005 @ 15:46 |
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Thanks Axlman! I appreciate that.
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22. June 2005 @ 18:40 |
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I am quite sad to hear this news about dvdd!!! But what really bothers me is why do we all sit around and complain why the powers of $$$ say it be so, and we basically say "OK" (with complainting for a few days to follow) and roll over and do nothing....????!!!!! How come we can record the exact same movies with our vcr's? Why haven't they been banned or encrypted? Food for thought....we could say FU to them all, quit buying dvd burners & movies, and regress back to the old technology of vcr's? Are we that dependenant on them? I think they would soon realize that the opposite is true!
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23. June 2005 @ 02:03 |
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some people can be burned up about all this nonsense about what is legal and what is not legal and get around to do what they want, how they want it and whenever they want it. You can't stop the big machine......they have the power...... when money counts that's when they pass laws to favor themselves.There's big money out there on these DVDs......regressing backwards is not an option. Now with the new HD DVds coming technology moves on! Soon all this nonsense about DVDs will be like the VCRs and be a thing of the past. So, in the near future, we won't have to have programs like DVDDecryter taken from us....... it will just be obsolete and new laws about the new technology will stop (or try to stop) everyone from copying their movies again! So what else is new? NOTHING! REVOLUTION...... GET REAL...... IT'S TOO HARD TO CHANGE AND GET EVERYONE BEHIND YOU TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. Can it happen..... sure...... but how many times in history has it???? We are talking technology, and pollotics...it only benifits the rich.......... why do you think they allow us to buy the burners???? They know that a portion of people will make programs to run them and they know THEIR bottom line...... profits.It's the same old story! nothing will change. remember when TV used to be freeeeeee too? now it's cable and satalite........
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23. June 2005 @ 04:57 |
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and we basically say "OK" (with complainting for a few days to follow) and roll over and do nothing....???
This once-useful thread has morphed into Philosophy 101 and I shall not resist immersion in what may yet prove constructive.
We all live in Republics' where we delegated our vote to a representative, who in turn balances what is best for us, with keeping his job. May I ask you gentlemen which one you have written to about this? None...? Not surprising. Neither have I. We are getting what we want and we have no intention of stopping it. DVDDecrypter and it's ilk will go on as long as "they" want it to. Obviously, if "they" wanted to stop this file-sharing and decrypting, they could do it with the push of a button (have Cisco block the URL's-no more updates). "They" have nothing to fear-we are too few to unemploy them or organize effectively against the $$ that feed them. They only use, and respond to, bully-tactics and so, until a philanthropic billionaire sets up a offshore production plant making and distributing free copies of each new epic, thereby cutting Hollywood's ill-gotten gains, all will continue as it is because "we" can't organize!
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23. June 2005 @ 05:34 |
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ok....... that's enough about politics....... because just like religion you can't argue about it...... it goes on and on with everyone having views and opinions about everything!
so with that being said....... has anyone come up with a new ripping program to dethrone our leader DVDDecryter?
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23. June 2005 @ 05:44 |
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YEAH!!!! Now this is what I've been ranting about!!!!! I'm glad to see the forum going in this direction. This is where it can begin, if this outward thinking can continue. If we can all come to a single mind on the state of our country, then we can unite and make effective change. The whole idea of writting our congressman and actually making a change, I believe, is dead. If they agree with us, great, but will they stand up for what is right, or simply be the overpaid puppet they've always been? This issue goes far beyond fair use with burning technology... it's everywhere and in every facet of our lives. For the people by the people, I said before, is a dead term. We are as a collective voice muted, and it's our own faults. We've watched what happens to people who try to rise up and make changes. Yeah, they make changes, but they don't usually happen till they've been asassinated. Change needs to occur. A new declaration needs to be written that will benefit not only the powerful, but the powerless. Rules need to be changed and certain offices need to be closed. Paycuts need to be effective in positions of power, that way when someone takes the position, they're not taking it for the bucks, they're taking it for the people.
I'm ranting and losing focus... need to think on this a while more.
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Blessedon
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23. June 2005 @ 07:35 |
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@ihoe-You're right of course
We're beating a dead horse.
@xanthony-Point taken.
@all-If you owned and were selling a program that did what LUK!'s beautiful, free program did, would it not be in your best interest to assist the authorities in shutting him down? It just seems strange that some decryption software's, which exists in the same vulnerable legal situation that his did...are still going. C'mon now...is it me?
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