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Sony and Toshiba execs comment on Warner Bros. decision at CES
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article published on 7 January, 2008
The biggest question at this year's Consumer Electronics Show (CES), which opened in Las Vegas today, is what Warner's decision to join the Blu-ray camp exclusively means. Based on predictions from industry analysts at the end of 2007 it means Blu-ray will become the dominant format by the end of 2008, but Akiyo Ozaka, president of Toshiba America Consumer Products, isn't so sure, and he ... [ read the full article ]
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7. January 2008 @ 13:31 |
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"true blue all the way through."
Are you joking! Warner was part of the bloody team that made HD-DVD. True blue my a$$.
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7. January 2008 @ 13:54 |
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Sad to see Warner turn to the dark side(Sony). Looks like all the people over at Warner got blu-balls now.
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7. January 2008 @ 13:54 |
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Are you joking! Warner was part of the bloody team that made HD-DVD. True blue my a$$.
Warner is also on the Governing Board of the BluRay Disc Association or the BDA.
So technically they were purple.
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7. January 2008 @ 14:05 |
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Blu-Balls he says, that's rich!
Anyway, I want to hear some real feedback from both camps. Toshiba is being a graceful looser and Sony a graceful winner. Let's see some mud slinging and some ridiculous predictions for each respective side.
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7. January 2008 @ 14:11 |
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need some blu ray flamers, by the way where is hughhers
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7. January 2008 @ 14:19 |
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The MPAA is pulling ranks and getting them to back Drm-Ray because of the extra layer of DRM on Blu-Ray "BD+" and the global price fixing tool which is region coding!
Hollywood is the MPAA!
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7. January 2008 @ 14:21 |
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here comes hddvd flaming, collect your hd dvd soon it is going to be history , rare fossil lol
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7. January 2008 @ 14:57 |
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ah hah rare fossil.. thats great =] but forreal.. blu ray isnt all bad.. you guys dont want it because it's harder to steal content? well i say thou shall not steal. =]
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7. January 2008 @ 15:15 |
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here comes hddvd flaming, collect your hd dvd soon it is going to be history , rare fossil lol
Stop being a bleep and trying to start a flame war. If you havent got anything good to say kindly bleep off. Theres gonna be no flame war. Some of us have better things to do with our time than argue about a format with a load of college dimwits.
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7. January 2008 @ 15:18 |
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extinguish the flame, no flames
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7. January 2008 @ 15:30 |
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microsoft soon starting to release xbox with in built bluray
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7. January 2008 @ 15:34 |
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@ lxfactor
It's not stealing if you already OWN the movie/cd. A person should be able to make backups of anything they own if they choose to do so. Sony seems to see things different...
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7. January 2008 @ 15:41 |
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As far as I can see nothing much has really changed.
Even the announced Warner change (which may well not be done & dusted just yet) doesn't really take effect for 5mths.
High def optical discs of both brands are still invisible to the genuine 'general public' this week just like they were last week.
All this recent fuss has taken place out of sight and in 'our' little bubble.
Despite some people's illusions it is not a 'hot topic' of conversation out in 'the real world'.
The non-game console fan/early adopter genuine general public are doing exactly what they have done all along, they are sticking with upscaled regular DVD, HD TV set-top boxes and (increasingly) downloads
(which is a new element that is bound to grow massively no matter what happens in the disc wars).
Blu-ray still depends to a ridiculous degree on a game console and is still selling expensive media in tiny amounts relative to the whole retail movie disc market with players that are still outrageously expensive relative to the whole disc playing market.
As far as I am concerned my HD EP35 is not only an excellent high spec HD DVD player but it is also a high spec upscaling SD DVD player
(and a bargain one too when compared to things like the much more expensive Denon high spec SD DVD players).
So no, I will not be selling my HD DVD player or my HD DVDs and if there are a number of fools out there who want to dump their HD DVD movie collections off cheap then let me at them, I'm buying.
My HD DVD discs and player will last me years and save me the expense & trouble of double-dipping (if at some distant future date I'm forced into it) on expensive Blu-ray discs
(cos you can kiss goodbye to any notions of Blu-ray becoming cheaper if they genuinely do 'win' anything - which, btw, is far from the case right now).
I don't even have to worry about players failing and being unavailable in future.
Those new Chinese brands are still coming. No matter what has just happened.
Higher spec dual format players from the likes of Samsung and LG will be around for some time too.
Happily Toshiba et al are giving no sign whatsoever of giving up the fight so I expect some very nice 4th gen HD DVD players to be making an appearance during 2008 too.
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7. January 2008 @ 16:01 |
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lecsiy, easy on the language.
ali2007, watch the double posts and stop the taunting.
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7. January 2008 @ 16:15 |
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I like Blu-Ray on my PS3 not because it can play movies, but the Blu-Ray discs used for games are much bigger then DVD9s and are bigger then HD-DVDs(unless you want to cout the triple layer, but if Sony were to make a triple layer it would be much bigger) so that means more room for that extended story line and better graphics.
As for the movie part, it's a nice feature and all(I like it), but I think I'll wait a while until the prices drop to like $25 for a new release. The PS3 makes a great 1080P upscaler too so I'm set for a year :)
It really does make a difference though... I got one movie for Christmas(Dejavu, good movie BTW) and it's definitley better then the DVD form(or well the PPV form from DishNet and Bell, but I'm sure that's DVD quality).
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7. January 2008 @ 16:20 |
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Lol, I buy my hd-dvds and will continue to do so. I also will continue to get the blu-ray movies the way I have all this time. Thank God for the 360, massive hard drives, and high speed internet!
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7. January 2008 @ 16:54 |
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Originally posted by lxfactor:
ah hah rare fossil.. thats great =] but forreal.. blu ray isnt all bad.. you guys dont want it because it's harder to steal content? well i say thou shall not steal. =]
Amen good Bless you,You hit the nail on the head.Blu-Ray is anti consumer because they can't copy it & BDA has removed the excuse that some pirates use about the disc getting scratched.If you use the player for it intended purpose which is playing movies how is it anti consumer?
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@ lxfactor
It's not stealing if you already OWN the movie/cd. A person should be able to make backups of anything they own if they choose to do so. Sony seems to see things different...
# Buena Vista Pictures Distribution,
# ( II )The Walt Disney Company,
# ( III ) Sony Pictures,
# ( IV ) Paramount Pictures Viacom ? DreamWorks owners since February 2006),
# ( V ) 20th Century Fox (News Corporation),
# ( VI ) Universal Studios (NBC Universal), and
# ( VII ) Warner Bros. (Time Warner).
MPAA is nothing but a watchdog that these studio's pay to do there dirty work & they are going to be around for a while.If your not doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about.
Originally posted by hughjars:
My HD DVD discs and player will last me years and save me the expense & trouble of double-dipping (if at some distant future date I'm forced into it) on expensive Blu-ray discs
(cos you can kiss goodbye to any notions of Blu-ray becoming cheaper if they genuinely do 'win' anything - which, btw, is far from the case right now).
So if a BD player drops around 200 bucks will you be willing to buy one? If its the only format on the market.
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7. January 2008 @ 18:28 |
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true blue all the way through
Gangsters in LA can relate to that.
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7. January 2008 @ 18:32 |
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Originally posted by hughjars:
My HD DVD discs and player will last me years and save me the expense & trouble of double-dipping (if at some distant future date I'm forced into it) on expensive Blu-ray discs
(cos you can kiss goodbye to any notions of Blu-ray becoming cheaper if they genuinely do 'win' anything - which, btw, is far from the case right now).
So if a BD player drops around 200 bucks will you be willing to buy one? If its the only format on the market.
NexGen76 I guess you are that dumb... If Hd-dvd won would you buy a CHEAP Hd-dvd player?
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7. January 2008 @ 19:31 |
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a $100-$200 Blu-ray player is still expensive. A street thug will sell them cheaper.
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7. January 2008 @ 19:37 |
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Sony lost out on the Betamax?VHS war and were turned back in their effort to dominate the media.
Now comes Blu-ray and HD-DVD
Sony has done much, much different this time.
THEY OWN A BIG CHUNK OF THE MEDIA and would dictate how and What we would Watch
From a Post by NexGen76 above
# Buena Vista Pictures Distribution,
# ( II )The Walt Disney Company,
# ( III ) Sony Pictures,
# ( IV ) Paramount Pictures Viacom ? DreamWorks owners since February 2006),
# ( V ) 20th Century Fox (News Corporation),
# ( VI ) Universal Studios (NBC Universal), and
# ( VII ) Warner Bros. (Time Warner).
That?s Just The Start. Sony wants to Dominate this Segment [and possibly others]
We should see to it that SONY has Blu-Ray stuck right where Betamax Was and that all there Media Purchases are a Noose around their Neck.
For those that may think Blu-Ray is that great. $25 bucks a disk is just a start
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7. January 2008 @ 20:00 |
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Originally posted by Chavo:
a $100-$200 Blu-ray player is still expensive. A street thug will sell them cheaper.
Lmao
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7. January 2008 @ 20:06 |
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Originally posted by whytelyou:
Lol, I buy my hd-dvds and will continue to do so. I also will continue to get the blu-ray movies the way I have all this time. Thank God for the 360, massive hard drives, and high speed internet!
Why the 360... It's great and all, but it has a horrible aftertaste seeing that even the newer 360s are still breaking and crap. Another one of my friends had theirs break after a year yesterday... He's the 5th guy I know to have his break within the past couple months.
I do agree wih 2 an 3 though... I've just bought a 1TB external HDD for $180 just last week :)
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7. January 2008 @ 20:12 |
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Originally posted by whytelyou:
Lol, I buy my hd-dvds and will continue to do so. I also will continue to get the blu-ray movies the way I have all this time. Thank God for the 360, massive hard drives, and high speed internet!
Why the 360... It's great and all, but it has a horrible aftertaste seeing that even the newer 360s are still breaking and crap. Another one of my friends had theirs break after a year yesterday... He's the 5th guy I know to have his break within the past couple months.
I do agree wih 2 an 3 though... I've just bought a 1TB external HDD for $180 just last week :)
Well let me just say this... The 360 is great with the hi-def wmv streaming. I will aslo keep getting my blu-ray files and buy my Hd-Dvd's as stated before!
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