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7. January 2008 @ 21:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok so I was looking to buy a new desktop since mine is really old and all I use now is my laptop. I have about 1900 dollars saved up and was thinking about getting this desktop/monitor and was wondering how well would they work together.

Computer-
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/...77&body=QA#tabs

Monitor-
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/...dy=REVIEWS#tabs

Also I would like to hear any other Ideas you guys have for a good desktop for around the same price range.

I want the computer to be really fast and let me run photoshop quickly and be able to run movies smoothly dont need great graphics I do console gaming not computer gaming..

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7. January 2008 @ 22:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I don't know about the monitor but that computer sucks ass for a grand. Hell you could build a GAMING PC(means you could have a great computer AND be able to spend money on a great graphics card) for less.

I don't know about the monitor, I'm still using a CRT lol.

If you're willing to build your own PC you can DO much better for that kind of money.
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Newegg doesn't work for me for some reason. But I saw the parts you listed. Pretty good except I would go with the GA-P35-DS3R, an HD 3870, and maybe not the Antec 900? Also the 520HX is overpriced, only because it's modular. You can get a 550VX for about 75. As for the RAM go with some Crucial Ballistix PC-8500 RAM. VERY good for overclocking.

I'm sure it would still come in under a grand after rebates.
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8. January 2008 @ 01:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well the only problem with this is the only thing I have ever done is replace ram or video cards before.. I don't know if I would have the knowhow to build the computer from scratch? Do you suggest I try it? How much work are we talking here? Whats the best pre-assembled thing you can find if I decide I cant do it myself?

Also I am wondering whats better buying a bigger hard drive for inside the computer or just getting like 250gb and buying a external harddrive later because I would like to have at least 500gb in total for storage..Would that make the computer slower?

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External hard drives are slow. They won't slow the PC down generaly, but opening files or running programs off it will be slower than an internal drive. I'd recommend using TWO internal hard drives. keep one for the OS and critical applications (Office etc.) and the other for games, multimedia etc. That way, if you ever need to reinstall windows, you don't need to lose any data, even if you have to reformat.
I'd agree with Abuzar on the parts, use the list krj posted, but get an HD3870 instead, and maybe a slightly more interesting case.



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8. January 2008 @ 08:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
building a computer is very easy. here is a video showing how to build a computer
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...earch&plindex=7
its a good video, watch it and if you have any questions you can ask anyone here for help.

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8. January 2008 @ 13:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If you dont want to build then something like below is fine for $729,its quad core,2gb ram,perfect for photoshop etc....

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883113042



Processor Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600(2.4GHz)  
Processor Main Features 64 bit Quad-Core Processor  
Cache Per Processor 2 x 4MB  
Memory 2GB DDR2 667  
Hard Drive 400GB SATA 7200rpm  
Optical Drive 1 18X DVD±R/RW Multi-Format Dual Layer Optical Drive  
Graphics Intel GMA X3000, Up to 256MB shared video memory  
Audio 8-Channel (7.1) High Definition Audio  
Ethernet Integrated Intel 10/100/1000 Ethernet LAN  
Speaker Amplified Stereo Speakers (USB Powered)  
Keyboard Elite multimedia keyboard  
Mouse USB Optical 2-Button Wheel Mouse  
Operating System Windows Vista Home Premium  
Special Features Intel Viiv Technology  


Add a HD2400pro silent for $45 and your set

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102100

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shwaggy
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8. January 2008 @ 13:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If I build my own computer I have to buy and intsall windows right?
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8. January 2008 @ 14:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by shwaggy:
If I build my own computer I have to buy and intsall windows right?
Yes and install the drivers....

Its not hard,it probably wont boot the first time lol,but its well worth it....

Just make your schedule free for 3 or 4 hours :D

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8. January 2008 @ 14:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just obviously be advised that as long as you buy proper stuff, you will get a far better quality PC if you build it yourself. Mainstream manufacturers like Gateway use cheap, low quality parts.



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9. January 2008 @ 00:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok so you pretty much convinced me I am going to build my own computer. I have been looking at cool cases and wonder how to pick the right one.. I mean I can choose which one that looks the best but what am I looking for like lots of room? Does it need certain things other than that?
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If you want lots of room, look at full tower cases. In cases you are looking for looks, how cool it is, how quiet it is and the build quality I personally prefer this one but people may call me biased.

Thermaltake Armor Full Tower Case:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133154
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9. January 2008 @ 06:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by abuzar1:
If you want lots of room, look at full tower cases. In cases you are looking for looks, how cool it is, how quiet it is and the build quality I personally prefer this one but people may call me biased.

Thermaltake Armor Full Tower Case:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...1133154



Awesome, thanks for the information. That is my favorite case on newegg also. I think I shall get it.
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9. January 2008 @ 07:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The Armor case is a huge size, so obviously make sure you have room for it / want a PC that size. However, due to that fact it cools quite well, and isn't exceptionally noisy. Just bear in mind they're incredibly heavy compared to normal PC cases like this one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...exa%2bblackline
The Armor weighs around 3-4x as much as the Lexa Blackline. Of course, if you're not a LAN gamer, it probably doesn't matter how much the thing weighs, but I thought I'd point that out.



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9. January 2008 @ 08:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
To give you an estimate on how much it weighs. My computer with all the parts in it weings in at about 45 pounds.
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9. January 2008 @ 09:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
And my PC weighs about 27-28 pounds or so...



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9. January 2008 @ 10:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I dont mind it being bigger or heavier because I really wont need to move it much. Thanks for the information though!

Ok I have put something together from your ideas thats a-bit over my budget but not much. Something I can swing and wanted to hear your ideas and to see if it would all work together(Compatibility wise)

Monitor-
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/...87754&body=MAIN

Computer-

psu
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...39004&Tpk=550VX

cpu
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115029

MB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128048

Hard Drive
2x http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822144171

Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814241067

cd dvd drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827131056

Ram
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231145

Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133021

I'm not so sure about the dvd drive I want something that will burn dvd/cds fairly quickly and proficient since I am a burning fiend. Will this all work together including monitor? Oh and I was thinking Windows xp for the OS. Sound Good?

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Heh, I see Viewsonic screens are slowly getting bigger. 22 used to be the biggest they made. Then 24, and now 28. They haven't quite reached the 30" holy grail yet though... :)
Bear in mind that although Viewsonic make good monitors, 28" is quite a large monitor for a resolution of 1920x1200. It's ppi is low so the style of the image will be more akin to an HDTV than a monitor - i.e. you'll have to sit a bit further back to get a crisp picture. Of course for a monitor of that size the only way to get a resolution higher than 1920x1200 is to get a 30", which will set you back well over 1000 dollars, so it's pick and choose really.
PSU: Excellent
CPU: Excellent
Mobo: Excellent
HDDs: ATA-100? I haven't owned an IDE hard drive for years. Get with the times man! Use these instead http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...&Tpk=WD2500AAJS
GPU: HD3870 yes, but not a Gecube. Their cards are suck. Get this one instead http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...pphire%2bHD3870
DVD: Sony don't make their own DVD burners, they just rebrand any old tat. Use something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118001
RAM: Good
Case: Good
OS: Wise. XP is a far more pleasant OS to use than Vista, without a doubt.


Without the OS that sums $1850, with a $15 rebate on the PSU. What's your actual budget?



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9. January 2008 @ 11:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for the info! Ill check them out right now. My budget is 1900 bucks so far that is what I have saved. But I think I can get a couple extra hundred for OS and keyboard/mouse/speakers.

Another Question am I going to need a sound card?

Also, Whats OEM/Retail someone was saying that oem doesn't come with manual and I dont think I would be able to do without manual since its my first time building my own computer.

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You're right.OEM means you don't get the snazzy packaging, manuals and extra bonus stuff. It's fine to go OEM for:
Hard disk drives
DVD drives
RAM

But for the rest (especially the motherboard and the CPU) go Retail.
As for the sound card, the audio onboard the P35C-DS3R is good. Not great for gaming, but for music/video it's fine. If you want decent quality audio in games though, I'd recommend something like this. It doesn't need to be expensive, but as long as it's a dedicated card made by a decent company, you're fine.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829102002
If you're going to do the job right (fast PC, big monitor) you may want to save up for some decent speakers, it makes a huge difference.



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9. January 2008 @ 13:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You realize you're paying 70 dollars more for the side fan that doesn't even help that much? Just get the normal Armor case without the sidefan for a hundred.

For everything else just go with what Sam said.
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9. January 2008 @ 14:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
70 dollars, omg, I didn't notice that. The side fan is a bonus, but not a $70 bonus. Fifty at the most.



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9. January 2008 @ 15:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah well the side panel is available for less than that if you really want it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811999812
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9. January 2008 @ 15:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
why would you get 2 250gb hard drives? you can save $30 getting a single 500gb.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136178

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