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Where to buy DVD-Audio DTS discs and problems with 5.1 wav
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Jugulator
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23. January 2008 @ 10:42 |
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I was wondering if anyone knows a good website were to buy DVD Audio DTS discs.
There are a few releases already (I have for example Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon) which I got on eBay. But I really can't seem to find what I want.
I was trying to buy Queen - A Night at the Opera (for example)...
On another issue I know you can make high definition Audio DVD's from your audio cds but is there anyway of getting wav->DTS (with more than 2 channels)?!
The reason why I'm asking is because I've downloaded Pink Floyd - The Wall and its suppose to be in 5.1, they are wav files and all I can hear is noise! How do I get them back to their original form?
I already tried Audio DVD Creator and I still have noise. Any ideas?!
Thaks in advance for everything!
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27. January 2008 @ 10:13 |
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Okay, firstly lets clear up a few things here.
DVD-Audio is not the same as DTS. DTS Entertainments did release some DVD-A titles, and some DTS-CD titles. DVD-A is lossless, DTS is not.
DSOTM DVD-A - when you bought this you got ripped off. This was created by fans - for fans - for free.
You can download it if you look in the right places. If someone sold it to you then they are cheap scumbags.
You cannot make High Definition DVD-A from a CD. Even if you upsamle from 44.1 to 96, and widen the bit depth from 16 to 24, all you have done is padded the original file with a load of zeroes, and you gain nothing at all in terms of quality. It's a myth.
(And "High Definition" actually refers to Video, not Audio. With Audio the correct phrase is "High Resolution". Sorry abou8t the nit-picking, but it is actually all quite important as the confusion has allowed the labels to almost kill off true High Rez Audio)
Buying DVD-A is not easy these days.
www.amazon.co.uk has a lot still available (Music/DVD-Audio)
DTS Online also have a lot for sale.
See http://www.dtsonline.com/shopping/catalogue/music.php and the Queen title will be in there as it was a DTS Ents release.
DTS-CD downloads are again not WAV files, or DVD-Audio.
They are DTS multiplexes with a 16/44.1 WAV header designed to allow you to burn the file straight to a CD. Use Audio CD, use the WAV file, and play back through a DTS decoder and it will be there - the noise you are hearing is what a DTS encoded file sounds like when played through non DTS decoders.
Audio DVD Creator is not DVD-Audio, it is DVD-Video.
DVD Audio Ripper is also nothing to do with DVD-Audio either, again it is DVD-Video.
For true, cheap DVD-A use Cirlinca's DVD-Audio Solo.
www.cirlinca.com
It's $35 or so, and is true High Resolution DVD-A capable.
Creating 5.1 from stereo is a whole new minefield.
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Jugulator
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30. January 2008 @ 23:16 |
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Wilkes,
First of all let me thank you, I've been all over the internet looking for information on this. I want to let you know that I really honestly appreciate your response.
I had some problems understanding all this DVD-A stuff. I completely understand all the details that I couldn't quite figure until now.
I don't want to push my luck but, since you are the only one that answered me I'll ask.
Is there any way I can grab those "DTS multiplexes" and burn them on DVD as 5.1 PCM? I mean, all of them already have the channels separated and I have software to work with that like for example "DTSParser, Tranzcode, SurCode DVD DTS, Cool Edit, etc...".
Basically that's all my purpose since I started looking into forums (regarding this issue), and, to finish my objective is:
-How do I convert and burn to dvd the wavs "DTS multiplexes" in 5.1 PCM format?
Again thank you so much for everything.
Also, thank you for the link where I can buy really DVD-A's! I'm going to get some of those no doubts about it!
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31. January 2008 @ 17:01 |
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As long as you have Tranzcode or Tranzgui, then all you now need is a $35 application called DVD-Audio Solo.
it's available at www.cirlinca.com
whilst it is not the most comprehensive authoring package available - it is extremely basic, no menus, no fancy stuff, but it will get your 5.1 PCM tracks onto a proper DVD-A disc.
You cannot beat it for the money IMHO.
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Jugulator
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6. February 2008 @ 21:03 |
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Hi, once again thank you very much for all your help.
Can you give me a hand (almost step by step) on how to burn the DVD-A.
What happens is after I have the files *.-C.wav *.-FL.wav etc, when I feed these files to DVD-Audio Solo it gives the error "file not supported".
I've tried different types (like 48kHz, 44.1kHz, etc) and I even tried to do like they say in the web site (mono files by "family") http://www.cirlinca.com/surround.htm
I'm sorry to be such a pain... But I really have lost a huge amount of time on this and I still can't figure out what I'm doing wrong.
Please help me if you can.
Again, thank you so much for all your help!
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13. February 2008 @ 09:16 |
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Can you please upload one of the files to RapidShare or similar, so I can take a look at it?
I'm wondering what the Bit Depth & Sample Rate is too - if the file has come from Tranzcode, it is going to be a 32-bit Floating Point file & that will not work.
You should be okay with any of the following:
16/20/24 bit
44.1/88.2/48/96 KHz for surround
176.4/192 KHz for stereo.
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Jugulator
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21. February 2008 @ 23:32 |
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Sure, thank you again and I'm sorry for any trouble. You've been the only one that's trying to help me and I truly appreciate that.
I've uploaded one song to sendspace here's the link:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/pf99al
If you manage to get it into PCM 5.1 I would really be thankful for any kind of tutorial.
Thank you so much once again.
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25. February 2008 @ 09:19 |
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That looks to be a DTS-WAV file.
When you see it, it will seem to be a straight 16/44.1 Stereo WAV, but that is just the headers being fudged by the DTS-CD encoders.
Tranzcode will demux this into 6 mono WAV files.
It's a GUI interface, so no tutorials are needed.
Simply run the app, load the file, set the 6 mono WAV option, set the sample rate to 44.1 and then set the destination & hit RUN.
What version of DVD-Audio Solo are you using?
My best guess - for now - is that you are trying to feed it a 32-bit floating point file instead of a 24-bit or 16-bit fixed point one. This will never work. You need to load these files into whatever editor you have (Audacity is a good & free one) and render it out as a 24 bit 44.1KHz file.
Then load those into DVD-Audio Solo, and you should be good to go.
In all honesty, you don't need to do this.
If you have a reciever or a soft player that will play a DTS disc, then all you need to do is write this to a CD & play that through the DTS decoder via a digital connection.
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Jugulator
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9. March 2008 @ 18:58 |
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Thank you so much for all your help.
There are two things that I was doing wrong: 1) Try to play the DTS files on a non-DTS device. 2) Not encoding the 5.1 PCM with the correct parameters.
You can't believe how thankful I am for your help. You have been the only one that helped me.
Thank you so much once again!
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12. March 2008 @ 10:46 |
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You're more than welcome.
Us surround heads got to stick together....we're apparently an endangered species.
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harrydvd
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15. March 2008 @ 20:48 |
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Originally posted by wilkes:
You're more than welcome.
Us surround heads got to stick together....we're apparently an endangered species.
Absolutely.
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akmes
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1. August 2008 @ 15:26 |
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Originally posted by wilkes:
Okay, firstly lets clear up a few things here.
DVD-Audio is not the same as DTS. DTS Entertainments did release some DVD-A titles, and some DTS-CD titles. DVD-A is lossless, DTS is not.
DSOTM DVD-A - when you bought this you got ripped off. This was created by fans - for fans - for free.
You can download it if you look in the right places. If someone sold it to you then they are cheap scumbags.
You cannot make High Definition DVD-A from a CD. Even if you upsamle from 44.1 to 96, and widen the bit depth from 16 to 24, all you have done is padded the original file with a load of zeroes, and you gain nothing at all in terms of quality. It's a myth.
(And "High Definition" actually refers to Video, not Audio. With Audio the correct phrase is "High Resolution". Sorry abou8t the nit-picking, but it is actually all quite important as the confusion has allowed the labels to almost kill off true High Rez Audio)
Buying DVD-A is not easy these days.
www.amazon.co.uk has a lot still available (Music/DVD-Audio)
DTS Online also have a lot for sale.
See http://www.dtsonline.com/shopping/catalogue/music.php and the Queen title will be in there as it was a DTS Ents release.
DTS-CD downloads are again not WAV files, or DVD-Audio.
They are DTS multiplexes with a 16/44.1 WAV header designed to allow you to burn the file straight to a CD. Use Audio CD, use the WAV file, and play back through a DTS decoder and it will be there - the noise you are hearing is what a DTS encoded file sounds like when played through non DTS decoders.
Audio DVD Creator is not DVD-Audio, it is DVD-Video.
DVD Audio Ripper is also nothing to do with DVD-Audio either, again it is DVD-Video.
For true, cheap DVD-A use Cirlinca's DVD-Audio Solo.
www.cirlinca.com
It's $35 or so, and is true High Resolution DVD-A capable.
Creating 5.1 from stereo is a whole new minefield.
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akmes
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1. August 2008 @ 15:30 |
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Hi Wilkes,
do you know of any Dvd Audio player that can output LPCM5.1 through its 5.1 analogue connections?
Many thanks
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11. August 2008 @ 06:21 |
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Originally posted by akmes:
Hi Wilkes,
do you know of any Dvd Audio player that can output LPCM5.1 through its 5.1 analogue connections?
Many thanks
They all should.
The way it (ought to) work is like this:
Load DVD-A disc into player - this can be either MLP Lossless encoded or straight LPCM. If it is straight LPCM, then the highest combination you can output is 24/48 at 5.1.
AT 16/96, you can get 61 minutes on a DVD5
At 20/96 you can only get 5.0 on a disc or you hit bitrate limitations.
Your total, maximum bitrate for LPCM is 9.6Mbps, or 9,600 kbps.
If this is not enough info, please send me a PM with your email address & I will send you the Excel spreadsheet files.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 11. August 2008 @ 06:24
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vsakae
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20. February 2009 @ 01:32 |
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I think you are very unluky. my friend do things like you,but no problem
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21. February 2009 @ 07:38 |
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Originally posted by vsakae:
I think you are very unluky. my friend do things like you,but no problem
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