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30. January 2008 @ 11:44 |
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im not to familiar with intel chips, but i would assume that is wayyyyyy to high of a temp. my amd 5000+ is running at 3.1 GHz and its only at 32C, never gets higher than 45 when encoding movies and such. is the cpu fan working? is there thermal compound on the cpu?
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30. January 2008 @ 12:58 |
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ashwin, i'm running a 2.53ghz prescott celeron & my temp is in the 30's or low 40's. 2 possibly 3 things is wrong with yours. 1 is that the cpu fan heatsink assembly is clogged with dust so clean it & make certain the fan is spinning. 2 is that the cpu fan heatsink assembly is not seated properly so reseat it but replace paste/thermal pad with new heat paste & make certain the bracket that the cpu fan heatsink assembly does not have any broken clips. 3 is that the heat sensor is malfunctioning so carefully put fingers on heatsink to see if hot or not. most likely is problem #1 is the cause.
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30. January 2008 @ 14:56 |
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30. January 2008 @ 14:59 |
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check to see if not accidently overclocked in the bios.
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30. January 2008 @ 15:08 |
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30. January 2008 @ 16:13 |
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Originally posted by ashwin18:
Originally posted by ddp:
1 is that the cpu fan heatsink assembly is clogged with dust so clean it & make certain the fan is spinning.
I do that every two weeks. I detach the heatsink/fan combo, clean it properly, reapply the heatsink compound and install it back.Originally posted by ddp:
2 is that the cpu fan heatsink assembly is not seated properly so reseat it but replace paste/thermal pad with new heat paste & make certain the bracket that the cpu fan heatsink assembly does not have any broken clips.
I checked if it's seated properly, and it seems to be fine. I checked the brackets on the fan and the processor socket and they look okay too. And as I said above, I change the paste oftenOriginally posted by ddp:
3 is that the heat sensor is malfunctioning so carefully put fingers on heatsink to see if hot or not. most likely is problem #1 is the cause.
It's hot. I don't know how hot 70 is, so I can't find out if the temperature is being reported correctly. But if I keep my fingers in contact with the heatsink for about 10 seconds, the heat starts becoming unbearable.
Wow.... That's a little excessive. Removing your HSF and CPU, then re-applying the thermal paste before reseating them again?? Thermal paste takes about 200 hours to "bed in" and even if you had your PC on all the time, that would take 10 full days to achieve, let alone 14 days in the time you take before re-applying it.
If your CPU has always been running at these temps, I'd say that there could be a chance the thermal sensor / motherboard are reporting false temps. If it is running at that temp without load, then i would have given it 6 months top before it burnt out. Even less if you were overclocking....
If the temps where lower, and has increased for no apparent reason, then I would question whether the CPU was functioning correctly, and I can't say what the reason may be.
I would also say that maybe you should cleaning your cpu / hsf less too. I for one wouldn't want to keep handling my rig's most important bits.
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30. January 2008 @ 16:22 |
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30. January 2008 @ 17:38 |
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what does your bios show for temperature to see if same as speedfan or not? got an idea it is same because heatsink is hot to the touch. other option is to get a new cpu heatsink fan assembly to see if that changes the temp. what dye is the cpu as in northwood, prescott or what? is the actual heatsink rectangular or rectangular with rounded corners?
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31. January 2008 @ 07:25 |
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31. January 2008 @ 15:59 |
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what dye is the cpu as in northwood, prescott or what?
What does that mean?
The Pentium 4 CPU's came in 4 main flavours, Willamette, Northwood, Gallatin, Prescott and Cedar Mill. All of these where some of Intel's last CPU designs for the previous generation of CPU's using 180nm down to 65nm process's as found in the Cedar Mill. Basically put the older the CPU, the hotter it ran and more power it consumed. This wasn't the case with Prescott Vs. Northwood, as most of the Prescotts ran hotter than their predecessors.
You can usually tell what your CPU is by the markings on the CPU, but you don't want to keep fidling with it! lol. Your other option is to download CPU-Z which will tell you which particular P4 CPU you have ;o)
One thing you have not yet told us, is what brand / model your CPU HSF & thermal paste / pads you are using. If you could tell us, you may just simply have a lame HSF which may not be doing a very good job.
Also keep in mind that with the paste / pads issue, paste always wins. As long as it is applied properly (usually a grain of rice sized blob, spread evenly using something like a credit card) you should be ok. Also brands like Arctic Silver III / IV / V / Ceramique (although the latter is better for GPU's / RAM) will never let you down.
Another thing to consider is the actual fitting between CPU & HSF. Although both surfaces look even and smooth to the naked eye, microscopically they look like a mountain range. Where the two surfaces meet, there are small channels of air (a thermal insulator) which doesn't help the HSF conduct heat from the CPU efficiently. This is the reason for the thermal paste as it fills the gaps and aids conduction. However thermal paste is good for slight surface irregularities, not extreme ones. Most cheaper HSF's have terrible surfaces which can be helped by a lot of elbow grease. You can even out (what seems to be a completely flat, yet very concaved) HSF surface by a term called lapping.
Here is an example of what can be achieved:-
This is a little extreme, but it is always an option.
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31. January 2008 @ 16:47 |
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Something I noticed.. look up your cpu specs and check the core voltage isn't too high.
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Upon release, many reviewers mistakenly concluded that the Prescott generated approximately 40% more heat clock-for-clock than the Northwood, and almost every review of it was negative, earning it the soubriquet PresHot. In reality, the core temperature sensor of the Prescott gives higher readings than the Northwood core temperature sensor, meaning that the increase in heat generated for CPU work done is believed to be around the 10% range.
This was taken from the Wikipedia here. Also after looking this up on the internet a bit more, most P4 Prescott users had avg temps from 48-58, and my own P4 3.2Ghz Prescott runs at 53 degrees idle.
Looking at your setup, I really don't think you have too much to worry about. The chips run hot anyway, the thermal readings are always higher than they really are, and they can really take a beating!
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