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pirate4
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31. January 2008 @ 21:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
My friend moved his father's computer and had setup the modem & router that was with it and his computer. The problem is with his fathers computer which was hooked to the internet fine now the internet won't work. We can access the internet through the second computer though so not sure where the problem is originating from? Need help figuring how to get the internet working again and just for info never used Linux before andit is running opensusie 10.2.

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varnull
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31. January 2008 @ 21:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That'll teach you to mess with other peoples gear eh??

first try (as root) /etc/init.d/networking restart

http://theos.in/desktop-linux/tip-that-m...etwork-service/

http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Setting_Up_an...x_8.0_or_Higher

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pirate4
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31. January 2008 @ 22:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thanks for the info and be a little more sensitive this is not a good situation right now.
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31. January 2008 @ 22:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hahaha.. sorry.. Wait till dad gets home eh?

edit.. suse seems different.. http://www-uxsup.csx.cam.ac.uk/pub/doc/s...icnet.yast.html

Try those quick and if nothing happens check your cables..
Then as root input

ifconfig eth0

and see if there are any numbers.. there should be an ip..

the router should be on 192.168.2.1.. (check the ip on the windows pc.. that will give you network info) try pinging it (root) ping 192.168.2.1
and you should get replies.. or at a push .. no need to be root.. netstat -a

From your working pc try logging into the router and check that the other sin't blocked at certain times of the day, and that dhcp is on.. if not and it's static there will be a screen full of possible network hosts (pc's) with ip's it will accept.

some people say we are hard in here.. actually we are nice people, just very linux typical.. blunt sense of humour and short answers.. :lol:

you can hit me up on irc if you want..

irc.villageirc.net #juliaskitchen

I'm online now

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OzMick
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1. February 2008 @ 12:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Does opensuse come with KNetworkManager by default? The graphical setup might help you. http://en.opensuse.org/Projects/KNetworkManager

You might have somehow given yourself a static IP when it used to be DHCP or vice-versa. Check how the other PC is set up and basically copy those settings across, or just admit it to his old man. If he's intelligent enough to run linux, I'm sure he's forgiving enough to teach you how to use it, most of us want to share knowledge. He might be a little pissed if it was done without permission, but shouldn't flare up too much if you show interest in learning about how it works ;)
pirate4
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1. February 2008 @ 22:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Going to give it a try. By the way quit assuming the situation cause you are way off.
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1. February 2008 @ 22:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Don't care.. not interested.. Just thought your first post was funny re: the situation sounded like a tyrant father was home soon and liable to explode :lol: Just like mine used to.

Lighten up.. the shower of scruffy linux punx here are all parents, mostly broke parents.. hence the linux.. we sympathise ......honest we do XD

This suse machine didn't happen to be set up as a gateway machine/firewall did it? It's possible it's set up to provide some strange network services along with internet connection.

Anyway look up the default router settings here and see if the one you are trying to connect to is still on it's defaults. suse should have still set itself up if windows autodetects, so I suspect cable troubles.. are there 2 ethernet ports on the back maybe? http://www.goitexpert.com/entry.cfm?entr...-Admin-Password
I don't give that link to just anybody ;)
OzMick
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2. February 2008 @ 00:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey, hey, I'm not quite that old yet... Although the puppy is basically the practice child, if the girlfriend doesn't kill it she's been told we can start making babies. Buys me a couple more years at least... At least I know that the only problems that child is going to cause me with my computer is chewed on cables, already lost a laptop power cable to the little wretch. You haven't been chewing cables have you? Jan might be onto something with the cable suspicion...
pirate4
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2. February 2008 @ 12:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi I'm P4s friend. My dad did have the computer set up with a static IP address. He had to as his main computer with about 3 or 4 other computers networked together along with it. As for why I have it now is because he had passed away about a week ago.

I tried going through Yast and editing the settings he had so it wouldn't be a static IP, that didn't seem to work. I have it hooked up to my DSL modem and his router. I'm pretty sure I can rule out problems with the cable since the cable Im using for his machine is the one I had on my computer before I brought my dads into my house. We both had the same DSL provider. Not sure if it makes a difference but I do have his modem I could use instead.

I will be giving your suggestions a try.
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OzMick
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2. February 2008 @ 14:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sorry for your loss mate. Have you tried to see if you can communicate with the rest of the lan? My router has occasionally done some funny things when I've tried to set up some QoS rules, so I'll be able to see the local network and login to the router still, but the internet won't be visible. You should also be able to ping other computers if their IP is known.

If you need a static IP but want the router to handle everything, most will allow you configure static DHCP address rules based upon MAC addresses. The computer is then setup to grab an address via DHCP, but the router ensures that it always gets the same reserved one. I find that a nice compromise, if I have to move it anywhere the DHCP still applies to the new network, but when I come home the IP is back to normal without ever having to touch settings once.

If all else fails, it might be time to backup important things and format the system to something you do understand a bit more if Windows is more your bag. Might even help with moving on if you're not constantly forced to wrestle with something of his that you don't understand and no longer have to use. Not good when a daily reminder of someone lost isn't a pleasant one when it should be, hope you find a solution mate.
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