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8. February 2008 @ 04:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I built this computer not too long ago, about 2 months at most i'd say. It's got a GIGABYTE N650SLI DS4L Mobo, 2GB of Kingston RAM, an Nvidia 8800 GTS 512 and an Intel Quad Core Q6600. The performance initially was great but over the past week or so it's detoriorated rapidly. I've tried everything I know, I've ran AVG which has found nothing. I've ran Spyware Doctor which found two or three tracking cookies nothing big. I would try defragging and so on but i'm starting to get the impression something more sinister is at play. The performance is pretty awful. I use to be able run UT3 on full settings, The Witcher on full settings and Crysis on the med-high settings with pretty good performance. Used to be able to run tons of apps at one time and never have any trouble. I have a resource monitor that never gives off any warnings that anything is being hogged.

About 10 mins ago I tried playing UT3 as usual, when the servers were loading up it was slow as hell, stuttering everytime a server popped up. Then when I selected a server it loaded in and froze up just as I was put onto a team, before the textures loaded in properly. Then it started to run at quite a nice frame rate until someone fired rockets in which case it froze up again for two or three seconds. If anyone has any ideas please let me know

Thanks in advance.
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8. February 2008 @ 15:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hmm, how many processes are you running? Are all 4 cores maxed out? What are your temps and have you tried system restore?

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8. February 2008 @ 16:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I've got 66 processes running with the cores nowhere near maxed out. The usage is normally around 4-10%. My temps are 30/86 for system and 36/96 for the CPU. Now I haven't tried system restore simply because from my experience it didn't often fix much for me.
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8. February 2008 @ 16:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Woah!!! 96C on the Quad!!! Way to hot! That could be why. Try re seating the cooler and reaplying thermal paste - this is with the stock cooler right?

Also, 66 processes is quite a bit -if you're running XP. I try to keep mine under 40 and have 31 running right now.

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8. February 2008 @ 23:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Waymon, reread Rhamhoy's last post again as is not 96c but 36c/96f.
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8. February 2008 @ 23:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Do you have some sort of antispyware program running in the background? I've used spyware sweeper and spyware terminator (not installed at the same time) and removed both of them because they where slowing down my computer too much. When I removed the programs my computer went back to normal.

If you just disable the programs, that ussually doesn't fix the slowdown you need to completely remove these programs.

Your problem is definitely some sort of program running in the background that has to analyze every process that is going on in your computer.

You might have to remove a couple of programs before you find the culprit.
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9. February 2008 @ 04:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I had a sneaking suspicion that one of the spyware programs might be the problem. But in saying that I thought the comp would be capable of handling it, it never shows any resources being hogged but I do have spyware programs running. I'll see if that helps. I'm pretty close to re-installing the O/S at this point but it's definitely worth trying what you suggest first I guess.
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9. February 2008 @ 07:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by ddp:
Waymon, reread Rhamhoy's last post again as is not 96c but 36c/96f.
All he says is:

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My temps are 30/86 for system and 36/96 for the CPU

That lead me to believe it was in *C just because that's more popular with computer temps.

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10. February 2008 @ 07:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Okay, I'm just gonna throw out some solutions here...

First, 66 processes running? Are you sure? With Windows XP Home I am running these:

-Fraps
-SoundBlaster X-Fi control Panel
-Video Drivers/Control Panel
-Firewall
-AVG Anti Virus
-SpeedFan Temp Monitor

With all these running in the background at all times I've got 33 processes. With all my other things like defrag, spyware scan, daemontools, etc. I've seen it hit 38.

Now, I'm not saying you've got viruses. But I'd find it extremely difficult at any time to even raise the will to get 66 processes open. I've never used Vista, so I don't know what kinda resources it sucks, but you'd better pray to god you've got Vista. Because XP never has that many things running at once.

Believe me, with 66 processes running(assuming lots of background doodads or viruses versus actual system files), even my 3.52GHz E6750 would get bogged down a bit.

I suggest you find a quality firewall if you haven't already got one. I use Comodo Firewall Pro. It's entirely free. I've even tried other pay firewalls and I still can't get protection like Comodo.

Get it here:
http://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/

Also, get this program:
http://www.ccleaner.com/

It'll get rid of a lot of junk off your computer and even has options to do an automatic registry clean. Totally safe. Never had it delete an important file yet. I use it every night before I shut down.

And get a good defragger. I use this one:
http://www.defraggler.com/

About 9 or 10 times faster than Windows defrag and I feel that it does just as good a job if not better.

When you run Spy Sweeper and AVG, start your computer in safe mode and THEN do it. The reason this works is because in safe mode, no drivers or extra background apps are loaded up. This allows your programs to just delete stuff and take care of things without dealing with running spyware. I'm not 100% sure but last time I checked, I think I had 10 processes in safe mode.

One last piece of info. Unreal 3 engine games have given me problems in the past. Installed Gears of War for PC. It forced me to download a bunch of useless junk and "processor drivers" and stuff. First thing I noticed, my idle temp went from a cool 35*C to 42*C and it stayed there. Would not change, even under maximum load with dual Orthos runs going for 12 hours. Wasn't my actual temp. But it really messed up something in the software when it forced me to install the Intel driver(didn't even give me a choice).

Then I noticed something else. My game performance D-I-E-D!!! I was playing FarCry and I was averaging 30FPS with my 8800GTX. Call of Duty 2 was unplayable and so was FEAR.

My FEAR performance test is something crazy like(not 100% sure) 135-150FPS Max, 70-80FPS Average, 35-45 minimum at 1920 x 1200 with 4X AA and 16X AF. With GoW installed... 16FPS average.

Crysis, I can run with all settings on high(not dx10). 1280 x 1024 w/ 2X AA. I average around ~43-44FPS. Stays pretty smooth for the whole game. With GoW Installed... I got about 12FPS.

Funny enough, GoW performed excellently and looked jaw-dropping. But it fu*ked up my PC so badly >.<

Finally had to do a system restore and a complete registry clean with CCleaner to get back in tip-top shape.

So, I'm not saying Unreal Tournament 3 is killing you(probably not, seeing as it works great for me) but try an uninstall/reinstall of the game and see if that doesn't do it if none of my other suggestions help. I suspect what killed me was the Games for Windows LIVE service and all the extra crap I was forced to install.

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And, if all else fails. A full reformat isn't as painful as it sounds. I actually prefer to do one every year.

The idea is to download all the little install packages for your favorite programs. I usually get a firewall, anti virus, my favorite media player(GOM Player), and all my utilities like defrag, DivX codecs, P2P software, firefox, thunderbird, video drivers, sound drivers, ethernet drivers. Basically the works. When you have everything you need, burn it to CD or DVD and do your reformat. Then you have a handy disk with all the stuff that is annoying to download over and over. Really makes it less traumatic to do.
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Hope I helped you some. I tried to give good advice for whether you reformat or not :P

EDIT:

I should say those USED to be my frames... I'm back to my old X1800XT 512MB LMAO XD

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 10. February 2008 @ 11:38

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