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19. December 2006 @ 10:48 |
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andrew31,
Have you checked your cpu temp?
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19. December 2006 @ 11:17 |
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sammorris,
You know what, I called ATi and even thier answer is cloudy! It depends on what model, version and memory where the individual specs stand. Some have 8 pipes, some have 12 and some have 16, it just depends on the specific model and revisions. AGP is a bit more stable as far as specs go. It also depends on which brand as to which is faster because some manufacturers overclock the card to begin with. That was always my biggest complaint with video cards. Bottom line is all X800s and X850s aren't created equal. As you know, I was always a big nVidia fan until Soph showed me the error of my ways. The picture quality overall is better with the ATi. Maybe not in some games, but overall it's superior to the nVidia. maybe the newest cards from nVidia are better but I don't know. As I'm sure you noticed a wide difference in performance on the list you provided with seemingly the same model, but from various manufacturers.
I personally don't care one way or another as I'm set with what I have. I'll worry about video when I finally have to go PCIe. Even then I'll probably go with something from ATi as I just won't have the need to get a front line card!
BTW, here's wishing you and yours a Merry Christmas, Happy New Year and a Happy Holiday Season.
theone
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19. December 2006 @ 11:26 |
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And to you Russ, since I'll be away for a week starting tomorrow when I come back I'll have a lot to catch up on!
With regard to picture quality, ATi was always better so I chose them in the past, however now nVidia have caught up with the 8 series.
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19. December 2006 @ 19:47 |
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Hey Sam,
I owe you an appology. It's the XT, not the GT that's the real good one.
Too many damn meaningless Ts!! Perhaps this will explain better. I knew I read this somewhere!
What this means in simple terms is that (as in Powercolor's case) some GT cards come ready to be clocked to the moon. Definitely a nice value add in that.
These cores are the ones that get tossed in the throw away bin initially because they are unable of reaching XT or PE speeds. Not every core from a wafer is a capable of running at full spec, which results in extras that in this case, end up on high potential, inexpensive, mainstream boards.
This is the reason there is no such thing as a 430 Chip! There's one in name only and thererin lies the problem. Some will overclock fantasticly while others will barley overclock. Some have more pipes or some have pipes that have been crippled with a laser. My AGP has two of the three qualities needed to be an outstanding video card. It has the full 16 active pipes and the "Good" memory. What I don't have is a good GPU. Mines one of the lesser chips that runs fine at stock speeds but overheats and crashes at anymore than 422MHz! Even at that it runs way too hot. I would love to have a "Good" GPU because this thing would OC to the moon with one. I think the comment on the Powcolor card overclockability is sometimes true, but don't count on getting one that will be so good. Again, some will and some won't. It all falls on the shoulders of the capabilities of the parts used to make one. Powcolor gets the chips in bulk and they sure as heck don't performance test every one of them to sort them out.
Sure they say 430 (new chip hype) on them but they are really 480s that failed and have been sorted into catagories to fit from the XT at the top to the PE, to the GTO and finally the GT. ATi guaranties them to perform only to thier respective levels and nothing more. The pipes that are crippled, come that way from ATi. It all depends on your luck in buying one. On some you can turn on some or all of the inactive pipes but the laser crippled ones, are dead permanently! You can bet your bottom dollar that Powcolor and all the others only submit known good cards for testing purposes. They need the raves in order to sell video cards.
So again, I'm sorry I screwed up the letters. I just can't keep up with every letter change. But, you do see the above problem!
Happy Computering,
theone
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andrew31
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19. December 2006 @ 22:09 |
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Originally posted by crowy:
andrew31,
Have you checked your cpu temp?
37c-43c
andy
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crowy
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19. December 2006 @ 23:32 |
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Andy,
What psu are you running?
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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20. December 2006 @ 00:10 |
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The X800GTO my friend got isn't capable of 2/3 the stock speed when playing games or it crashes, so it has to be downed to X600 specs to be stable... And yeah, letters are confusing enough! I had the pro card in AGP, which was fine at stock speed, but wouldn't OC at all, but then again, that was with the PSU that destroyed half of that PC, I never tried again with a better PSU. There's something else up with that system now, it doesn't boot, probably the crummy Elixir memory. Buy cheap and buy twice, (and a repair fee! :@) Anyway, happy christmas / whatever you celebrate to everyone, see you in a week!
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crowy
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20. December 2006 @ 00:15 |
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Sam,
All the best for Xmas/New year!!
Have a good break!!
Everyone,
Have a great and safe Xmas/New year.
Regards Crowy.
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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andrew31
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20. December 2006 @ 03:03 |
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crowy
system is
amd athlon 64 3200+
k8n neo2
2x 512mb ddr400
256mb geforce 6800 agp
maxtor 80gb hd
maxtor 160gb hd
lg dvd rom
lg dvd rwdl
psu lc-b450e
i also have the k8n sli new in box ,as i bought the wrong board (pci-e)
all this as my system was the intel 3.0gb presscott .witch fryed
andy
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andrew31
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20. December 2006 @ 23:55 |
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hi i done the live update and flashed the bios to 1c,loads of diffrent setting now ,so set the cpu to 220 ,now runs at 2180.
new memory so now duel channel works
andy
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onya
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21. December 2006 @ 01:26 |
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Hi to all, of all the webs and threads i've visited so far for dvd stuff or o/clocking, this site has to be the BEST, you guys really know your game. Your patience and generosity to me as a newbie has been awsome. So congrat's to AFTERDAWN for a site with quality, and to the people who subscribe to it. As for me... i won't be a proverbial pain in the butt forever, we all have to start somewhere. Guy's, from me and mine to you and yours, have a great christmas break and all the very best for the new year.
Cheers for now :)
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andrew31
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21. December 2006 @ 02:20 |
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merry christmas onya, and everybody
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21. December 2006 @ 07:44 |
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@onya
ditto, and a happy holidays to yall from me and mine.
@andrew
that more like it :)
try upping your volts to the cpu, if still no joy put it back and drop your ram as it is running at ddr440. good luck with it and have fun.
keep your eye on your temps when you up the volts, and drop your htlink again when it starts to go above 1000 again.
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andrew31
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21. December 2006 @ 09:50 |
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how do i drop the ram speed?
when i put the fsb up the ram goes with it?
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21. December 2006 @ 14:35 |
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yep. you up cpu frequency it ups the ram and ht link.
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21. December 2006 @ 17:20 |
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To All,
Anyone out there own a Panasonic "Toughbook" CF-48. I have been all over the web and can't find an ATi Mobility M7 LW video driver. I've tried ones from Dell and HP plus the supposedly universal Mobility 7500 drivers and nothing works. I can't even get it to give any options but ATi. Even if I could just load a plain Jane VGA driver it would be better than it is, but it won't give me that option.
I've called Panasonic and ATi with no results other than promises that no one's kept! The guy at Panasonic infered that it was kinda old (4 years)! Let's see it's a 1.8 mobile P4. Gee, I guess that qualifies it for the scrapheap! NOT!!! Care to guess what my next laptop won't be! Anybody out there with one, let me know if I can get the video driver from them.
Happy Holidays,
theone
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onya
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22. December 2006 @ 11:45 |
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Russ, had a look around panasonic aust web site, and came up with their download page. The model you have according to them, there is a MK5 and a MK6. I've sent off an email to them asking for the "PLAIN JANE" vga, I'll let you know what transpires. Meanwhile try these links for the main web page and the MK5 driver download page.
products/information.cfm?detailsID=37&contextID=2485
[url=https://eww.pavc.panasonic.co.jp/pc/cgi-bin/itn/toughbook/dl02.cgi?main=308[/url]
Sorry, can't seem to make the last one a link (rotten brackets)
Cheers
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22. December 2006 @ 12:03 |
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onya,
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Meanwhile try these links for the main web page and the MK5 driver download page.
Thanks! The main web page doesn't show computers and the MK5 page is blank, it just says done at the bottom!
I've called both ATi and Panasonic with no luck. panasonic was supposed to have someone contact me for support but that never happened. I can't believe that I might well have to chuck this laptop because of the lack of a video driver. I'll never get another panasonic laptop! Not with that much lack of support. I guess i just wasted my money for a new hard drive! Thanks for trying!
Happy holidays,
theone
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onya
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22. December 2006 @ 12:55 |
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I might well have to chuck this laptop because of the lack of a video driver
Ouch, I can't believe that your getting such bad support. If your interested, I can download the files for you, zip 'em and send them off to your hotmail or whatever, up to you. Heres the details of what panasonic aust have;
Video driver, model CF-48E/F(mk5)
CF-48F4KFUKM (15.8mb file size)
Release date 04/23/2004
Driver-48-0011
model CF-48G(mk6)
CF-48G4KFUKM (20.1mb file size)
Release date 04/27/2004
Driver-48-0046
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22. December 2006 @ 17:17 |
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onya,
I've already tried those and they won't work. Mine is a CF-48X which is one of the newest revisions. Problem is I only found one thing about this model and that's some specs that are correct, but nothing else. That's in the Toughbook FAQ and all it tells you is it's a 1.8 Mobile P4 with a 30GB hard drive. I had to use Astra32 to even identify the video card. I did notice that the video memory is 0! It may just be the lack of a driver. Thanks for trying anyway
Happy Holidays,
theone
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onya
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22. December 2006 @ 23:34 |
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theone, a short story. The company i work for (Engineering/product development) have been manufacturing the prototypes,for the toughbook cradles/componentry for in car installations, for another design company. It seems that some government departments, and private also, are queing up to get these toughbooks installed in their vehicles. If they get the same level of support that you've been getting, then there will be some very red faces at panasonic. The whole reason for me having a look see for you is that the product is still under refinement(to a small degree)and it is still a current topic.(at work that is). I actually know the managing director of the design company(Brett), but.... not that well to ask favours. Don't chuck the hardware away just yet, you just never know what's around the corner.
Happy holidays also,
Cheers
Steve
(EDIT) PS: Not to push the issue, I havn't recieved the copy of sandra that you guy's have. Please advise if there are problems with doing so.
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23. December 2006 @ 00:38 |
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onya,
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PS: Not to push the issue, I havn't recieved the copy of sandra that you guy's have. Please advise if there are problems with doing so.
I didn't know you didn't get it. Did you get any part? Oh hell, I'll just resend right now!
Happy Hoildays,
theone
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23. December 2006 @ 11:14 |
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onya,
I don't know where my brain is! I sent Kansas. I'll send Sandra right now. Sorry!
Happy Holidays,
theone
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24. December 2006 @ 23:06 |
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FX8120 @ 4.5Ghz 1.3v,Asrock 970 extreme 3,8 gig crucial ballistix 1600 @ 1866, thermalright true spirit 140, 120gb Sandisk extreme ssd, 3TB second drive. Hd4830. Corsair Hx520 PSU.
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25. December 2006 @ 07:19 |
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ck5134,
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have you tried this page?
No I haven't but I found 2 video drivers on it that may work. I still can't find my specific model which is CF48X. One of the drivers is marked M7, so I'm hoping!
Thanks, I appreciate the links. I'll keep you posted.
EDIT: Just a quick note to thank you. I was able to find a working Vid Driver and the Function key Driver. Both work excellent.
Thanks again, JRS
EDIT: Here was my biggest surprise Christmas gift of all! An e-mail from Newegg! I had a case I ordered come missing and it arrived the day after the replacement, in a very damaged box but unscratched. I offered to purchase it from them for a reasonable discount to avoid the hassle of them having to ship me a box and then arrange a pick up. This was my answer!
Thank you for writing back to Newegg.
Please kindly note that we did not charge you for the replacement item since you did not receive the item you paid for. It means that you actually only paid for one case. Now you have received both the original item and the replacement one. If you want to keep both of them, we normally need to charge you for the second one. However, considering the inconvenience that this has caused you, we would like to make a one time exception for you not to charge you for the replacement item. We would like to send it to you as a free gift. Now you can keep both of the items if you like.
I guess the answer to the question is "Yes Virginia, there is a Santa Claus". Now that's what I call great Customer Service!
Happy Holidays,
theone
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