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2. March 2008 @ 01:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey guys,i need some help. I need the Best PC for $600-700


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Ok, what's it being used for?



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that guy just disappeared into thin air...

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5. March 2008 @ 14:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I,ll carry the thread on...

Basicly all i really do is convert CD,s (EAC with Lame) and convert dvd,s (that i own) into m2ts files (MeGui, RAWAVC, AC3) and stream all to my PS3.
Surf the web, edit photos etc.
Currently am running AMD Sempron 1.75Hz single core with 512mb of ram with three slots empty.
It takes awhile to encode the movies nearly 2 days so am thinking of dual or quad core.
Forgive my ignorance on this, but PC hardware is not my strong point, thanks for any help and info given.

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@Sudds
Hi it seems like you're from PS3 thread section, we welcome you, anywho what socket is your Sempron? But it seems like you need a new computer what is your budget limit for a new computer?

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5. March 2008 @ 20:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by GTR35:
@Sudds
Hi it seems like you're from PS3 thread section, we welcome you, anywho what socket is your Sempron? But it seems like you need a new computer what is your budget limit for a new computer?
Thanks for the greating mate, my budget would be £300 which is at the moment about $600.
Am not sure what socket it is but i,ll run cpuz and upload the file for you.

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5. March 2008 @ 21:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That's probably doable if the Sempron is a 939 or better yet AM2 socket.



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@Sam
it's a Socket A, unfortunately.

@Sudd
Socket A discontinued long long ago, so it's difficult to find one thats good. getting a new computer is much better option.

£300,$600, good price for a PC. What yould you be using it for? Let me guess since you have a PS3, so you wont be gaming on PC.

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What if its for Gaming?????


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6. March 2008 @ 00:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
no because if it's for video encoding then you don't need a really good graphics card which saves money but if you're gaming then it's different

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Very little gaming, suppose maybe some emulation, project64 would be about all i would use.
But apart from this just some ripping, encoding and surfing., and thats about it, but as i said it takes along time to encode a movie.

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6. March 2008 @ 09:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Socket A Semprons are unfortunately very slow compared to the ones that came out on later sockets, as they were known to be slower than their Athlon XP counterparts. The best option for the guy with the sempron would be to upgrade to a cheap AM2 or Core 2 based system.

xXxBG: So you're going to play games? Which ones, specifically?



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6. March 2008 @ 10:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I came across this pc here

Is it much of a jump from the PC am using?

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6. March 2008 @ 10:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@Sudds
do you have to buy a prebuild system? Cause it's not good you don't even know what motherboard it has. Building your own system is much better...



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No i dont have to buy it, i thought it would be somthing similar as to what you would recommend.
By all means, if you will, put up some links to give me a general idea as to what i need.
As i said before, am a complete novice when it comes to this stuff, heck i nearly bought sddr ram for my comp, as i thought ram was ram! (ignorance i know) so your knowledge in this field is very much appreciated.

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Sudds: It's refurbished, and therefore will be unreliable, I guarantee it. At least go with a PC that's fresh out of the factory. It'll be a reasonable upgrade from your current machine, but for the money, it's not that great a deal.
My cousin has a similar Advent system, albeit a bit older (P4 single core vs E4300, ironically the E2160, almost the same CPU is what's going in that PC's replacement) and so far it's been ok, but it was a low spec machine to begin with, as is that one, and it now feels very outdated.
As for your lack of experience, I started building PCs when I barely knew what I was doing, but slowly and surely I've improved to my current level where I like to think of building a PC as a simple and straightforward operation, until you find a faulty part that is... :)
If you never start, you'll never learn, and you'll forever be at the mercy of premim rate tech support calls to people who barely speak the language, and shouting at your PC if ever it doesn't function as it should. Build your own, and you'll be self-sufficient for all your future needs, and be able to start diagnosing problems should they appear.



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6. March 2008 @ 12:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
Sudds: It's refurbished, and therefore will be unreliable, I guarantee it. At least go with a PC that's fresh out of the factory. It'll be a reasonable upgrade from your current machine, but for the money, it's not that great a deal.
My cousin has a similar Advent system, albeit a bit older (P4 single core vs E4300, ironically the E2160, almost the same CPU is what's going in that PC's replacement) and so far it's been ok, but it was a low spec machine to begin with, as is that one, and it now feels very outdated.
As for your lack of experience, I started building PCs when I barely knew what I was doing, but slowly and surely I've improved to my current level where I like to think of building a PC as a simple and straightforward operation, until you find a faulty part that is... :)
If you never start, you'll never learn, and you'll forever be at the mercy of premim rate tech support calls to people who barely speak the language, and shouting at your PC if ever it doesn't function as it should. Build your own, and you'll be self-sufficient for all your future needs, and be able to start diagnosing problems should they appear.
Ok.. much better than a physical kick in thee arse! lol!
Right... basic fundamentals are, Motherboard, PSU, Processor and OP and a new housing (not fused on my old its massive).
And they all have to be compatible right?

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6. March 2008 @ 13:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
There's more than that.

CPU & Cooler (often comes with)
Motherboard
RAM
Graphics and Sound cards (come with some motherboards, Onboard graphics though is best avoided)
Hard Disk
Optical Disk & Floppy drive (if the latter is needed)
Power Supply
Case & Cooling fans (Most cases come with them, not all)

then the obvious, Monitor, Mouse, keyboard, speakers/microphone etc.



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6. March 2008 @ 13:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
There's more than that.

CPU & Cooler (often comes with)
Motherboard
RAM
Graphics and Sound cards (come with some motherboards, Onboard graphics though is best avoided)
Hard Disk
Optical Disk & Floppy drive (if the latter is needed)
Power Supply
Case & Cooling fans (Most cases come with them, not all)

then the obvious, Monitor, Mouse, keyboard, speakers/microphone etc.
What i have: Moniter, Mouse, Keyboard, Speakers (connected to Hifi)
80gig IDE, 300gig IDE, 300gig EXUSB 2.0 Hard drives.
TSST corp CD/DVDW SH-S182D.

Am i right in saying that these days most hdd op drives etc are SATA? If so do i basicly chuck what i have on ebay and start afresh? Or is there any point in purchasing conversion cables etc.


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6. March 2008 @ 13:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You can attach up to two devices via IDE to most PCs nowadays. Keep two of them and you can always buy external boxes to run the other components over USB. Most optical and hard disk drives use S-ATA these days, and while it's always logical to go with S-ATA for the hard disks there's no apparent gain for using S-ATA for your optical drives yet.



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6. March 2008 @ 13:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Heres what i dug up:

CASE
PSU
RAM
MOBO BUNDLE

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6. March 2008 @ 14:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
All bad ideas I'm afraid. Golden rules of building a PC:
No cheap Power supplies
No CPU/Motherboard bundles
Don't buy your components from Maplin, they're too expensive. The PSU's not even the right size anyway.
Instead, get:
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductIn...roductID=359344
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductIn...roductID=632059
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductIn...roductID=605526
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductIn...roductID=644038
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductIn...roductID=402849
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductIn...roductID=770343
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductIn...roductID=533395

A faster CPU, a better case (trust me, even if it doesn't look it, it's much better made and will cool better, especially with the extra case fan), a much better motherboard, a much better Power supply (the other one was not only the wrong size but very poorly made), much better quality RAM and it actually has a good graphics card. You omitted one entirely.
All that lot delivered will be about £330.



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Pfff... See, its easy when you know what the story is and what to look for.
(If you want me to wire your house for electrics and multimedia gimme ashout...) but as for the hardware in a PC... knock me down to below noob status...
Reason i omitted the graphics card is beacuse i dont do much PC gaming, apart from abit of N64 emulation, but on the other hand if i want to run Vista am gonna need it...
Think you had to step in there before i made a balls of it.
Wanna thank you and the rest of the guys for takin the time to put up with my nonsense.

THANKS A MILLION.

I,ll now go and gather info on how to set this all up, give ya,s abreak from constant badgering!

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OK, that tells me you don't need a powerful graphics card, but you'll still need one to be able to see anything! Cheap nasty motherboards come with integrated graphics, but the ones that are any good don't, and that's because integrated graphics is strictly limited to Standard definition video and normal office use. HD video and/or games and you need a proper graphics card of at least some degree. You can go cheaper than the 2600XT, but because cheaper cards are so much weaker, I'd stick with that card because it's cost effective. Pay 40% more, get twice the performance, if you see what I mean.



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Quote:
Pay 40% more, get twice the performance, if you see what I mean.
Oh yeah, i do mate.
Am stick with this set now and order it.
Now to order Vista Home Pre...


 
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