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2. March 2008 @ 15:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Is there any way i can get four ide hard drives to work at the same time? thanks
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3. March 2008 @ 19:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes you can but most likely you will have to disconnect your CD Drives. Usually motherboards only have 2 IDE ports on it for a total of 4 devices. To connect it though you have to set the OS hard drive to Primary Master. After that, the other hard drives can be Primary Slave, Secondary Master, Secondary Slave. Post back if you need help configuring it.
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6. March 2008 @ 17:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Or you can get a IDE PCI card and have connections for 4 more HDD

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/...70704&CatId=508

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6. March 2008 @ 19:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by bean55:
Or you can get a IDE PCI card and have connections for 4 more HDD

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/...70704&CatId=508

bean55

How did I forget about that, lol. I actually have one of those. They work great by the way.
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7. March 2008 @ 17:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for the reply. I wasn't sure if i could do that. I've been wanting to build a home server with an old Pentium 4 that i have laying around and it only had IDE no serial. So if i connect two ide cables to the motherboard i can connect four hdd and i should have a problem? or do i need to configure something in the OS? thanks.
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7. March 2008 @ 17:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You SHOULD NOT have a problem, just clarifying. you typed in that you should have a problem. You'll need to look on the back of each drive for a jumper. Its by the power connector. Place all the HDs in Cable Select. It'll tell you which position is cable select. The other card though that bean55 posted will let you configure the 4 hard drives in RAID which is like 1 big fast hard drive. IT WORKS REALLY WELL! For a server if you are going to be movie streaming or hdd intensive work, i suggest RAID. The performance increase is very good.
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9. March 2008 @ 01:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I want to use the server for movies and music so i should get the card instead. So with the card all the hdd become one big one right so in the server i will only see one?
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9. March 2008 @ 10:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes. This is the one I have and I have done it before with 2 hard drives and XP Installed. The other one should be able to do it but I'm not sure. Let us know how it goes.
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21. March 2008 @ 21:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well i right now i have three hard drives a 250 a 40 and 80 gb all ide. I later i was later thinking of replacing the 80 and 40 with bigger ones i first want to build the server and see how it works. I was thinking of buying this case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811164098
this case isnt big its a home theater case so it aint that big and i was thinking of putting in my home theater and it has plenty of space for additional hard drives well i can add 4 one in the internal 3.5 one in the external 3.5 and i can buy brackets to out a hard driveon the 5.25.

and since none of my computers nor the server have gigabit network card i was thinking of buying this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833166002

My server is a pentium 4 2.4 HT with 512 mb. do you guys think this is a good server im building if not any of you guys have any ideas?
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21. March 2008 @ 21:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The Ethernet card is fine but look at the specs of the case again. It only supports 1 internal 3.5" drives (hard drive) and 1 external (floppy) and it supports only a micro ATX motherboard. In my opinion, you should go with an Antec case as they are very quiet and large enough to hold all your components. For the P4 in a server, I think it should be fine depending on what you are going to do with it. I use a Celeron D 2.93GHz as my media center computer and it works fine. Just know that with the P4, you aren't going to be able to play HD DVDs or BluRays on it. I would also upgrade the RAM to 1GB but only if you see a need to after the system is built.
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21. March 2008 @ 21:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
what i am trying to do is build a really small server with home server 2008 installed. what i meant by be able to put four hard drives is by putting a the other three hard drives well one where the floppy drive goes and two where the cd/dvd roms goes i can just by this adapter: http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Drive-Adapter-Br...1QQcmdZViewItem

I have a home theater pc but i want the server to store only my movies music and pics since i only have 250 gb on my pc. I dont want a tower and well i am on a budget. so is this a good idea?
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21. March 2008 @ 22:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That would work but be sure to watch the temperature of the case inside the system. Also be sure that 400 watts is enough to power the system and that you have a micro atx board to put inside.

http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp

use that to see how big of a power supply you will need. It is also a good idea to stay 50 to 100 watts over what that gives you for room to upgrade and capacitor aging.
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21. March 2008 @ 22:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I used it and it said i need about 200 watts with two hard drives and about 230 with four. So you think that's good enough power? so is my idea for the server good?
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21. March 2008 @ 23:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I would need more specs on the power supply such as amperage per rail to tell you a definate if it will support 4 hard drives. It's worth a try, if not you could always swap out the power supply considering that its not some wierd size or type. I think your idea is fine. What processor/board is going in that, is that the P4? I think Windows server 2003 would run better on that then Server 2008. Windows 2000 works well for a server too, you could even use XP for that matter.
I can't stress this enough, make sure your motherboard is a micro ATX or it will not fit in the case and the case will be useless.
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21. March 2008 @ 23:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It's a pentium 4 micro atx. well what if for now i only use one hard drive for now like the 250 gb with the 512 mb the home server 2008 and the 400 watt power suppl then later when i can afford to buy another two hard drives i can also buy another 512 mb of ram and a bigger power suppl. You think that would make it better?
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22. March 2008 @ 11:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That would also work. Just know that if you are making a RAID array, you can't add hard drives to the array after its made.
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22. March 2008 @ 13:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
can i put two hard drives on the ide on the motherboard and four connected to the raid controller?
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22. March 2008 @ 13:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yea but 6 hds in a case will take up some serious amperage on your 12v rail and create some serious heat and noise.
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22. March 2008 @ 13:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well the max hard drives i was planning to put are just for i just wanted to make sure for future reference if i decide to build a bigger server. thanks for the replies. Well what i was planning to do it put a 250 gb on the 3.5 internal and 2 500 gb on the 5.25 using the rail adapters and 750 gb in the 3.5 external bay and i can connect all the hdd to the raid card and i can add another 512 mb of ram.
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22. March 2008 @ 15:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Let us know how the build turns out.
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2. May 2008 @ 18:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well i had boughten the media center case but where i was planning to put it (in my closet) it doesnt fit in the shelf. So i gave that computer to my bro. Well i decided to get a Shuttle SS21T: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856101018
and this AMD Sempron CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103197
this 1 GB of RAM:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820178133
and a IDE 400 GB GB HDD and Home Server 2008.
I am just waiting for the CPU and RAM to get here.
My Question now since i have well everything to build a small similar server as the HP Home Server Is can i connect four hdd 2 IDE and 2 SATA 150? And if so how do i set them up? Do i put the IDE in Primary Master or do I put the SATA in Primary Master? So before i go and but the other HDD i want to know that i can. Thanks.
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2. May 2008 @ 18:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
RAM: Get 2GB instead of 1GB. Get 800MHz RAM.
CPU: If you can get something better for a server, Semprons aren't that good. Its like a Celeron.

SATA drives are plug and play, no configuration needed. and you can connect 2 IDE drives along with 2 SATA drives.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146565
The above is cheaper at http://tigerdirect.com but there is $7 or so shipping standard.
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2. May 2008 @ 19:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I bought the 1 GB RAM for later to upgrade to 2 GBs as for the CPU i bought that because of the budget. FOr now i want to try the home server with 1 GB of RAM 400 GB HDD the Sempron CPU to see how it handles and with time i will just upgrade to 2GB of RAM ANother 2 HDDs and the cpu. I wanted to build it similar to the HP server. You think its a pretty good setup for what i have i have purchased?
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2. May 2008 @ 20:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I think its a good setup. Try it out and let us know how it goes. You may want to use Windows XP as the OS.
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2. May 2008 @ 20:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
But wouldnt it be better to use the home server for all its features.
 
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