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dablur
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_ 		16. March 2008 @ 22:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You know those older movies that come with a dual sided Full Screen and Widescreen.. but when you dirrectly compare the full screen to the "widescreen" version you realize they just put black bars in them and its it's not even really widescreen...

Why in the would they would do that is beyond me but my question is..
well it's not really a question but more of a poll or discussion topic

When you have a DVD that has a FAKE widescreen, do you just rip the fake Widescreen anyways or just say ef it, the full screen is in it's original format and they are just cutting off stuff in that "widescreen?"

I personally prefer original aspect ratio.


P.S. I did a search for a similar topic of this and nothing came up about this..
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dialysis1
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_ 		16. March 2008 @ 23:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Those movies are called 4:3 Letterboxed. If you want to make those true widescreen, you can run them through DVD Rebuilder. I have done over 30 of those type.
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IHoe
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_ 		17. March 2008 @ 07:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
can you give us a movie that has a FAKE widescreen? this way I can compare the two versions.
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dialysis1
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_ 		17. March 2008 @ 09:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
They're not fake. They appear as widescreen on a regular tv but on a widescreen the picture is distorted.
Such movies are:
True Lies
Ransom
The Abyss
Tango & Cash
Misery
The Crossing Guard
Conan The Barbarian
The Big Easy
Canair
Stargate
Armageddon
The Hand That Rocks The Cradle
Mission Impossible
The Silence of The Lambs
The Game

Just an example of a few.
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mackdl
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_ 		17. March 2008 @ 11:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I believe dablur and dialysis1 are talking about Anamorphic vs. Non-Anamorphic DVDs

This give a good example of how each looks on different displays:

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articles/a...hic185demo.html
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dialysis1
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_ 		17. March 2008 @ 11:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by mackdl:
 I believe dablur and dialysis1 are talking about Anamorphic vs. Non-Anamorphic DVDs

This give a good example of how each looks on different displays:

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articles/a...mo.html


Correct.
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dablur
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_ 		19. March 2008 @ 03:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm talking about the ones that are shot in full screen (4:3) originally and these companies try to pawn them off as widescreen by adding black bars and cutting off the image...Calling it Widescreen when really the black bars at the top and bottom of the screen actually COVER UP parts of the picture that had originally been there, and you are NOT given more to look at on the sides.


Do you guys just rip the full screen or go with the fake widescreen
Who the hell would want a fake [ws]
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dialysis1
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_ 		19. March 2008 @ 03:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That's what we've been talking about. As I said, those movies are called 4:3 Letterboxed. It is not a problem to convert them to true Anamorphic Widescreen. If you take a frame shot of that version and the fullscreen version you will see that it is the fullscreen version that has been cropped and zoomed in. The 4:3 LB is not cropped.
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dablur
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_ 		19. March 2008 @ 06:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by dialysis1:
 That's what we've been talking about. As I said, those movies are called 4:3 Letterboxed. It is not a problem to convert them to true Anamorphic Widescreen. If you take a frame shot of that version and the fullscreen version you will see that it is the fullscreen version that has been cropped and zoomed in. The 4:3 LB is not cropped.
ok but i dont think you can make it true widescreen unless it stretches it or crops some stuff out because if it was originally shot in full screen it can never be true widescreen..

i dont really know that much about all these aspect ratios but it sounds like you know what you are talking about. so i guess ill just nod my head and agree
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dialysis1
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_ 		19. March 2008 @ 06:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
When converting, some of the black bars will be cropped and the picture will be stretched. Taking a frame shot, the picture will look distorted but when playing the movie, the 16:9 flag will correct the viewing image. I don't want to keep changing the settings on my player everytime I watch a 4:3 LB movie. That's why I convert them to the proper format. You'll only get these with older movies because there really wasn't any true widescreen tv's out there when these movies were made.

To see the difference between a widescreen movie and a fullscreen one check the link below.
http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?image...llscreenmw2.jpg
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