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_ 		4. April 2008 @ 07:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This is going to be the first sytem that I am attempting to build. I have a decent budget but not willing to go crazy on the parts. I have mostly been looking on newegg and tiger direct for parts. It's going to be an Intel SLI build and these are the parts I am looking at, if you have any ideas please let me know. Heres the list.

Mobo - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188024

CPU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017

Video Cards - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130328 2x

RAM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146755 (not sure if i want to go 8GB with this ram)

HDD (boot) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136012

PSU - Not entirely sure on how much wattage I need, was thinking in the 650-850 range.

Case - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/...AIN#detailspecs

That's pretty much the basics I was looking at. I don't know how additonal HDD's I am going to because I have about 2 TB with external (deployed right now LOTS and LOTS of movies). The case is another thing I am iffy on. I don't know how big the video cards are and I want some extra room just to be sure inside. I also want to OC the system and need to be sure on cooling and so I don't burn my system up.

Any suggestions would be appreciated and thanks for reading.
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_ 		4. April 2008 @ 11:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Motherboard: Good (nvidia chipsets are somewhat flawed, so no SLI board gets 'excellent')
CPU: Excellent
RAM: Out of stock. Get this instead http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134596
GPUs: The 9600GTs scale well in SLI, but their performance is somewhat mediocre in games that don't support SLI, so you should be aware of that.
HDD: Not a good idea. Despite the reviews, these drives are proving unreliable. Just get something like five of these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136073
PSU: Go with this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139002
Case: The build quality of Aspire cases doesn't impress me, and their PSUs are certainly crap. Don't waste your money on a case that comes with a useless PSU, get the PSU I mentioned and this case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119137

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_ 		4. April 2008 @ 16:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i would get an x38 board instead of a 780i and use a single higher end card instead of two lower end cards. and you wont need 8gb of ram unless you game and do heavy photoshop work with the pagefile turned off. but ddr2 is so cheap that if you feel like spending a little extra then go a head and get it just be sure to use a 64bit os.

gigabyte x 38 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128089
9800gtx http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130339
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Indeed. I didn't realise the 8800GTX hadn't dropped in price in the US like it has in the UK, that's why I recommend it.
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krj15489
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_ 		4. April 2008 @ 16:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
 Indeed. I didn't realise the 8800GTX hadn't dropped in price in the US like it has in the UK, that's why I recommend it.
right now a 8800gtx is $340 before rebate and that is $20 less than two 9600gt's in sli, and the 9800gtx is $10 less than the 8800 for some stupid reason.
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sammorris
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_ 		4. April 2008 @ 16:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah, over here, two 9600s in SLI set you back £200, a 9800GTX £205 and an 8800GTX £185.
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_ 		5. April 2008 @ 18:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
actually the GTX at £176 xD

some good prices.

you want SLI, but will you be gaming at above 1920x1200, if not one 8800GTX will cover EVERYTHIGN bar crysis.
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_ 		5. April 2008 @ 18:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
185 including delivery.
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shaffaaf
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_ 		5. April 2008 @ 18:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
stupid overpriced delivery :(

xD

then inc del, i doubt the SLI 9600GTs are £200 nor the 9800GTX £205 deliverd
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_ 		5. April 2008 @ 18:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Unfortunately no. The 9600GTs were on a special offer somewhere that meant they were, but the 9800GTX is £210 delivered, and the 9600GT pair £208.
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_ 		5. April 2008 @ 18:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
 Unfortunately no. The 9600GTs were on a special offer somewhere that meant they were, but the 9800GTX is £210 delivered, and the 9600GT pair £208.
still superb prices


but i would save the £20 and get he 8800GTX. or save another £20 and get the 8800GTS512 and OC to 9800GTX speeds.


from the reviews i ahev seen the 9800GTX are soem mental OCers and have a very quiet cooler. (btu they are still not worth the price over the 8800GTS (£50)
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The 9800GTX is actually really noisy compared to the other 8800s, but it does overclock well. For simplicity's sake it's cost effective to get a 9800, but if you can squeeze to 8800GTs in SLI or 3870s in crossfire, then you're laughing.
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_ 		5. April 2008 @ 19:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yeah it is more conveniant.

really, louder?

from the 5-6 reviews i have read, they say its quieter at load (not idle) than the GTS
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_ 		5. April 2008 @ 19:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
the reviews I read say it's louder, which makes sense seeing as it uses more power and has the same cooler.
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_ 		6. April 2008 @ 07:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
the3y said it had a differnt cooler, and a bigger Heatsink.

lemmie post it up

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?op...=1&limitstart=4
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The ZOTAC ZT-98XES2P-FSP GeForce 9800 GTX uses a dual-slot design with improved clearance around the fan for optimal cooling and airflow. The board is cooled with an exceptionally quiet on-board "smart" fan; even when playing the most intensive 3D games, the GeForce 9800 GTX remained whisper quiet.
http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=732&p=8
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The GeForce 9800 GTX ran very cool, which did not surprise us at all. Given this is the same GPU used for the 8800 GTS 512 graphics card, we expected the 9800 GTX to run a fair bit cooler, as it does, due to the much bigger heatsink. The other good news is that the 9800 GTX is a very quiet operating graphics card, making very little noise even when under full load.
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.ht...W50aHVzaWFzdA==
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We were very pleased with the thermal performance of the BFGTech GeForce 9800 GTX. It uses a fair amount of power compared to more value-oriented products, and its cooling system keeps temperatures much more manageable than we have seen lately from products such as the 8800 GT. The fan is whisper quite at all times, even during full load testing while overclocked. The 9800 GTX fan remained inaudible over the ambient sound in our already quiet office.
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_ 		6. April 2008 @ 09:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The 8800GTS 512MB also uses the same dual slot cooler, unsurprising since it's the same card.
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_ 		6. April 2008 @ 10:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
it dont though.

check out the pics, they are diffferent.
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_ 		6. April 2008 @ 10:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It has a slightly more rounded back, but it's still the same cooler. Remember the new 8800GTS has a different cooler to the old one:

New GTS: http://www.techpowerup.com/img/07-11-29/88gtsg92_01l.jpg
Old GTS: http://www.komplett.co.uk/img/p/400/332090.jpg

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