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kathy1961
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8. April 2008 @ 08:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
someone please help me. ive been caught 4 time by my server
( comcast )i need someone tell me how to block bit torrent of the site where i get the movies from
you can e-mail me @ ***email removed***

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8. April 2008 @ 10:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I am not sure what you are asking for.
Are you looking to continue bittorrent, but want to block malicious IPs with something like PeerGuardian 2.

Which bittorrent client are you using?
kathy1961
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8. April 2008 @ 11:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i'm getting caught downloading movies. i want to block my server from seeing what i'm doing on my computer.i have peerguardian on my computer but i dont know how to work the program, i have looked for some kind of 101/ neewbie to getting started. just need some kind of help so i dont lose my service
Thank You
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8. April 2008 @ 11:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It is not Comcast that is watching. It is the entertainment industry groups who watch and then report you to Comcast.
That is one of the functions of the IP blocker, to block IPs that are "known" to belong to anti-P2P groups.

I don't use PG myself as I use the built in IP filter in Azureus and ipfilter.dat in uTorrent.

Anyhow, this is the installation guide at the PG wiki:
http://wiki.phoenixlabs.org/wiki/PeerGua...tallation_Guide

When you get to the part about which lists to load, all you need to load is the Anti-P2P, uncheck the rest.
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8. April 2008 @ 15:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by kathy1961:
someone please help me. ive been caught 4 time by my server
( comcast )i need someone tell me how to block bit torrent of the site where i get the movies from
you can e-mail me @ noemails@afterdawn.com
no email addresses allowed on threads againest the rules

@ PeerGuardian 2 is a good programme to use :)



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8. April 2008 @ 15:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
kathy1961, no email addy's per forum rules.


kathy1961
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8. April 2008 @ 19:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
1st i want to say Thank you jeff. 1 problem
i have 7 sites added to block list but PG protection it's saying blocking 0ip's i did go to 1 of the blocked pages and hit update as stated on the newbie 101 page .it is still say blocking 0ip's
what do i need to do ???
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8. April 2008 @ 20:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
They have some problems with their lists at times. There is a thread called Blocking 0 IPs? at their forum and this post from a moderator was up yesterday.

It basically says:
"we are having problems with the list. You can go to this site http://iblocklist.com/lists.php and get the URLs for the list you need and add them into PG2 temporarlly.

Here is the PG2 manual. It will help you with adding the list.
http://wiki.phoenixlabs.org/wiki/Pee...ist_Management"

Edit: In fact there is a thread here at Afterdawn just a few down about PG2 blocking 0 IPs.

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Mez
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9. April 2008 @ 09:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Comcast will throttle you if you exceed a certain volumn. Especially if you are using torrents. Torrents was 50% of the total traffic this summer. Torrent traffic went up 20% in just this year. Everyone's service is being effected. You might try downloading less. Then your down loads might be faster.

If the PG2 fix actually works please post results if it helped or didn't help.
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9. April 2008 @ 10:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Mez
PG will not help with the Comcast issue.
PG is used to block anti-P2P groups from connecting with you on a torrent.

Comcast's use of Sandvine is to interfere with P2P communications so as to cut down on traffic on their system.
If your bittorrent client has encryption/lazy bitfield, using those might help.
Hopefully the Comcast issue will be gone by the end of the year with the recent agreement between Bittorrent, Inc. and Comcast
Mez
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9. April 2008 @ 10:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That is what I thought but I had not heard of the recent agreement between Bittorrent, Inc. and Comcast. I am not really sure what can be done unless the torrents do their own throttling to give other traffic some breathing room. The problem with torrents it can pull so much even with no one at the computer.

Encryption may help and it probably smart to do anyway. I know some one that suspended from Cox. He was directed to a site that had his torrent activity for the month then read him the riot act. Then he was able to click the I will be good from now on button to restart his service. However if you pull too much on Comcast they will throttle you so hard you can't even browse.
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9. April 2008 @ 11:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This is the story on Comcast/BitTorrent at Slyck
This is TorrentFreak's take on the deal.
In either event, there will still be some throttling to preserve bandwidth.

When Comcast starts their 100Mbit connection (Wired), maybe the interference will stop.
kathy1961
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9. April 2008 @ 14:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thank Everybody. i got it working . Now maybe i can keep Comcast off My A** .
Mez
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9. April 2008 @ 14:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
How did you get it working? Are you shure it was you and not Comcast? I have heard if you cease and desist they losen up their throttle. When you hit a gigs in x days quota again the throttling will start up again.
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9. April 2008 @ 14:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Comcast only throttles a very small % of their users that use the most.

Most people's issues with Comcast are with the Sandvine.
For that either encryption works or there is no way to counter it.
kathy1961
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9. April 2008 @ 20:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Since you guy's are the Pro's I have block level 1-3 p2p what else should i block. I only use torrent for movies and app.
any info will help.
I can't say thank you enought for all the help
kathy1961
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9. April 2008 @ 20:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I don't understand this throttle stuff. ( newbie )But i downloaded the waterhorse in less than a hour . i'm happy. just dont want comcast on my a** any more.
Mez
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10. April 2008 @ 07:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks jeffw224 for putting a name to it.

Cut from a Sandvine advertisement
Quote:
Sandvine solutions are built upon the fundamental concept of conditions and actions. Conditions determine when traffic management policies should be activated and include subscriber service entitlement, types of application traffic, and environmental aspects such as network traffic and time of day. Actions are policies that are triggered by a set of conditions - some of today's potential actions include optimizing, marking, protecting, or notifying support systems. For example, a service provider may want to optimize file-sharing traffic on their network during regular weekday business hours. This simple condition <-> action concept drives our industry-leading solutions portfolio.
It must be a very sophisticated application that can monitor all traffic flows and analyze packets for content. This could explain much it not all the complaints I have heard with Comcast. Does anyone know any of the methods it uses to correct traffic flows?
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10. April 2008 @ 07:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This is the best explanation I have seen:
"The Sandvine application reads packets that are traversing the network boundary. If the application senses that outbound P2P traffic is higher than a threshold determined by Comcast, Sandvine begins to interrupt P2P protocol sequences that would initiate a new transfer from within the Comcast network to a peer outside of the Comcast network. The interruption is accomplished by sending a perfectly forged TCP packet (correct peer, port, and sequence numbering) with the RST (reset) flag set. This packet is obeyed by the network stack or operating system which drops the connection."
AP Discovers Comcast Traffic Shaping
Mez
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10. April 2008 @ 10:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
"I see" said the blind man! I have heard bits amd pieces that I could not 'make out'. Your explaination has enough meat in it to understand the process. That explains a good deal. However, I bet it has other 'tricks'. Some how it can throttle you even if it can't disconnect you. That is what I ment by throttling. I have heard the process is mindless and eases up some time after you stop. It seems the harder and longer you push, the harder and longer it pushes back. It is one smart application!
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10. April 2008 @ 11:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The disconnecting that it is referring to is with P2P connection(s), not the internet connection. That is basically how it throttles P2P.
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Mez
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10. April 2008 @ 11:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The throttling I mentioned can happen to the Comcast user node if that node is using encrypted packets. The node output is throttled so that you can't browse the web through that node anymore. All traffic is throttled to a trickle. If said user shuts down P2P operations the node comes back to life in a day or less.
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