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20. July 2007 @ 08:01 |
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I just ordered one of those corsair 620 watt PSU's yesterday from zipzoomfly for $146.99 with the same $20 MIR and free shipping ($126.99 after rebate). my 8 month old hiper type-r $hit the bed and is only warranted through the manufacturer which is in England. no more hiper PSU's for me. I'm on my laptop now.
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20. July 2007 @ 08:05 |
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That seems to be happening increasingly often now, what happened to it?
I think I'm going to stop recommending Hiper PSUs now, given how many reports of premature failures there have been. Not experienced any yet, but then I suppose mine did come with a seriously faulty set of cables (one of the molex extensions fried my hard disks, and the kettle lead started arcing inside after a few months).
I think I'm going to promote Corsairs with all moderately high end builds, that leaves me looking for a brand to choose for lower end builds. Has anybody had any experience with these?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...ermaster%2b500W
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20. July 2007 @ 08:16 |
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what happened to it?
I have no idea. I came home from work monday and went to power up my pc and nothing happened. I checked it with a PSU tester. no power to any rails. 3.3v, 5v, 12v all dead.
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20. July 2007 @ 08:18 |
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Hmm, interesting. Lol have you changed the kettle lead?
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20. July 2007 @ 08:24 |
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tried everything. different power cord, different wall outlet. I was fairly sure those weren't the problem since the rocker power switch was lit up in the on position. I'm really gonna be pissed if it took out any other components.
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20. July 2007 @ 08:30 |
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Hmm, oh well. That sucks.
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20. July 2007 @ 11:48 |
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sam this looks like a good deal for the money. :) Thermaltake PurePower 500
mikeh0303 I'm still looking at some deals and fitting parts. Hopefully I'll have something for you to look at this evening. :)
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20. July 2007 @ 13:24 |
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Hmm I've always been a bit wary of the Purepower as it's a unit that Thermaltake made themselves, rather than contracting to CWT, so is it so well made?
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20. July 2007 @ 15:39 |
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21. July 2007 @ 04:00 |
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HEY sammmorris I was looking at some more "low end" build PSU's and thought these 2 were possible candidates. :) Please take a look and see what you think. Can you tell me what you look at in the SPECS to make sure we're on the same page. TIA. :)
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if the link doesn't work let me know and I'll post them individually. ;)
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21. July 2007 @ 04:10 |
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What I think of when I see those PSUs is:
"What do Rosewill and nMediaPC make other than PSUs and cases?"
Nothing as far as I'm aware. That goes for a lot of PSU manufacturers, but a lot of those are reputable PSU manufacturers. These two brands aren't. I wouldn't buy either, on the strength that they're not well established brands in the field. As for the PC power & cooling, perhaps, but I hear they're very loud, and not everybody disregards PC noise as an issue. The Corsair HX unit seems to be the best power supply all round, it's the quietest PSU of that rating ever made, and it's a top quality unit, and the manufacturer is very reputable at making solid quality components. However, I was actually asking which PSUs for a low price are good.
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21. July 2007 @ 11:47 |
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@sammorris
I don't know where you heard that they were loud...They are known for there Raw Power and Quietness...
They are quieter then the OCZ 700 Gamestream...or the Hyper 580...and PC Power & Cooling actually manufacture's their own P/S...which I doubt Corsair does...
I haven't researched the Corsair line yet...I know they are new to Power Supply's...which would make me nervous...
Whats your price range?..
I thought you quoted $150 on your first post...
I did a little research...
$169.99
($149.99 after $20.00 Mail-In Rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139002
I looked at the Corsair 620 (3) 12volt rails 18A each...
$144.99
($109.99 after $35.00 Mail-In Rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341002
The OCZ 700 has (4) 12volt rails 18A each...
The OCZ is a much better deal for your $ then the Corsair...
Me I am not a big fan of multiple rail P/S...it is just a marketing gimmick...Its cheaper to build multiple rail P/S with a higher 12volt total...then it is to build a one rail P/S with a high 12volt total...
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21. July 2007 @ 12:27 |
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Lp531,
the corsair HX series PSU's have a 5 year warranty, use 105 degree celsius rated industrial grade capacitors delivering 4 times the lifespan of 85 degree capacitors (that most other manufactures use), and of course have the excellent customer service that corsair is known for.
I read several reviews and none of them had anything bad to say except that they were a little costly but that was when they 1st hit the market at around $170+.
for these reasons and at only $126.90 after MIR for a modular PSU I'm willing to give one a try. I guess time will tell.
sure can't be any worse than the hiper and it was around $110 with shipping and has a $hity warranty (3 years but it has to be shipped to England where it is made).
I'm not just siding up with sam as I had already ordered a corsair 620HX PSU before he even mentioned it.
BTW: here's a better price. $126.90 after MIR and free shipping http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDet...ductCode=373110
I also considered the OCZ 700 watt PSU but opted for the corsair due to it's modular design and warranty.
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21. July 2007 @ 12:47 |
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@Mort81
No problem...I was not slamming the Corsair P/S...I just looked at the specs...and the specs for the OCZ were better...as was the price...
I have not read any reviews of the Corsair...which obviously you have...and obviously you were impressed by them...
I will check out the Corsair line...and keep us posted on your impression of your new P/S...
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21. July 2007 @ 13:34 |
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Lp531,
no problem my friend. 620 watts is more than adaquate for my system and being I'm a neat freak I wanted a modular PSU and the corsairs look to be far better than any other modular PSU's available (bound to be better than an ultra).
under the circumstances I'm thinking a power surge took out my hiper (although I do have it going through a good surge protector). I know, time to get a UPS. that's on my list with another hdd. to many expenses lately.
a PSU with over current/voltage/power protection was a must this time around. a couple other features I liked was: 1) advanced circuitry design that automatically enables power sharing between the three 12v rails in an event of overload of any single 12v rail. 2) guaranteed compatability with dual GPU configurations in case I ever decide to go SLI or crossfire.
here's corsairs spec page. there's several reviews too but you can google those at your leisure if you so desire. this particular review gave it top pick even over the OCZ 700 watt PSU.
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21. July 2007 @ 13:55 |
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1) advanced circuitry design that automatically enables power sharing between the three 12v rails in an event of overload of any single 12v rail.
I might question this statement from Corsair...The rails are either isolated...or they are not...and they look like they are isolated from the review and the pictures of the insides...and I did not see anything in that review that rated the Corsair over the OCZ...I might have missed it...any way keep us posted on your impression of Corsairs new product line...
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21. July 2007 @ 14:44 |
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The OCZ's OK, but from what i've seen has bad ripple because it's an FSP. You were saying how companies don't make their own PSUs?
I don't know who makes the Corsair unit, but from what I've heard so far it looks like Corsair.
Also, the Corsair is the quietest PSU you can buy.
The Hiper and OCZ aren't great for noise, but I bet the PC Power & cooling isn't as quiet as the Corsair. Run a 120mm case fan at 1000rpm in a vibration-free environment, that's the sort of noise you're looking at, barely any at all.
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21. July 2007 @ 16:33 |
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Here is an excellent article on the Corsair P/S...They seem to like it...
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article692-page1.html
At the end of the article it suggest that the Corsair & Seasonic share the same manufacturer...
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Given the manufacturing source, the most obvious comparatives are the Seasonic M12-500 and M12-600 models, which have the same basic circuitry and modular cable system, and probably the same noise-conscious fan control circuitry. However, the M12s have that extra 60mm fan. Although the 60mm fan is there for good reason ? to clear a hot zone that seems endemic to all 120mm fan PSUs
So...Odds are Corsair is not the Manufacturer...
The PC Power & Cooling is a very silent P/S...when not under 60% or above load...Just like Corsair and most High Quality P/S...the Corsair is No different...
I would not be surprised...if the PC Power & Cooling is equal in noise to the Corsair...under equal power loads...during normal daily operations...
The Reason I have been promoting the PC Power & Cooling 750 Quad is the addition of the (4) PCI-E Connectors...(The Quad stands for the Connectors...Not 12v Rails)and the resent ability to find them in the $160 range..:)
When they first came out they were in the $280 range..:(
Which made them un-affordable to most builders...
They are a no Gimmick P/S...No Leds...No Windows...No Modular connectors...just Brute Raw Power...and lets face it...that is all you really need from a P/S...
For Me ...I'll take my 60A on (1) rail...vs 50A on (3) rails...
Multiple Rails are not necessary...they are simply a gimmick...and that s JM2C on the matter..:)
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21. July 2007 @ 18:27 |
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Lp531,
nice review. I wasn't and never did bash the PC Power and Cooling 750 Quad. I'm sure it is one of the better P/S's. different strokes for different folks :) as stated above, one of the main reasons I opted for the corsair is it's modular design. I don't like cables everywhere or gobbs of wire ties.
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22. July 2007 @ 02:54 |
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Modular doesn't do much for me simply because I often use all the connectors!
As for the Corsair and Seasonic being the same underneath, is that a bad thing? They both perform well, and while the Seasonic may have a slight cooling edge, the 60mm fan has to spin pretty fast to match the airflow coming from the 120mm underneath (otherwise it'd be impeding cooling) and that makes it loud. The single 120 arrangement for the Corsair seems to work just fine, and as of yet I haven't heard of any issues with either of those units.
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22. July 2007 @ 16:59 |
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@mort81
Never thought you or Sam bashed it...It looks like the Corsair is a Absolute Top notch P/S...So...I am sure you will be Happy with your purchase...I hope you did not think I was Bashing the Corsair P/S...Let us know your impression of it once you get it...I know you like to OC...so...I was just letting you know about the PC Power & Coooling 750 Quad...since the price has come down to affordable levels...
I really like that PC Power & Cooling took a stand...and did not play the Multiple Rail Game...They knew what worked Best...and stuck to their Guns...I just Hope OCZ let's them continue doing business the way it should be conducted...So Far it has been a good merger...
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As for the Corsair and Seasonic being the same underneath, is that a bad thing?
Absolutely Not..:)...The Seasonic's are Top Notch P/S...As I am sure the Corsair units will be...I have always been Impressed with Corsair as a Company...I am glad that they are expanding their product Line...I always assumed that the Corsair P/S were Out Sourced...Manufacturing P/S is not something that you just jump into...I do not think out sourcing is a Bad thing...It saves the consumer $...and does not necessarily produce inferior product...Lets face it...Most things are out Sourced today...actual Manufacturing is becoming Centralized...Maybe thats why I like PC Power & Cooling's Products so much...They actually Design & Build their own P/S...For 22 years that is all they have done...They have been one of the premiere builders of Ultra High End Power Supply's...With a Reputation for Quality in all there products...and now with OCZ's help they are becoming affordable for Average High-End Builds...
The Power Supply Market is Finally getting noticed by consumers...There are Lots of New and exciting Ideas Coming out...Like Liquid Emulsion Cooling that look quite promising...Wouldn't it be nice to eventually have...No Fans...Just Liquid Emulsion Cooling for the entire PC...It has already started in the P/S market...It will be interesting to see if it can be transferred to all P/C Cooling needs...
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23. July 2007 @ 00:00 |
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What's your opinion of single rail power supplies? Bear in mind a lot of 'modular' power supplies like the Toughpower are actually 4 wires soldered to the same rail. A good multiple rail power supply I think has uses, but at the end of it all, if one rail works, why do we need more?
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23. July 2007 @ 02:30 |
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23. July 2007 @ 02:34 |
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I agree, one of the problems with multi-rail power supplies is them not providing enough power to any specific rail, whereas if there was one big rail that'd be no problem. E.g. a Three rail unit that puts out 12A on each rail, a 15A load on one rail would cause a problem. If it were one 36A rail, not an issue.
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23. July 2007 @ 17:05 |
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back up n runnin. no other damage to any other components that I am aware of and all apears to be working A-OK. I like the corsair p/s overall but I have to admit the modular cables are not as nice as those on the hiper and it doesn't provide as many different lengths or adaptors. my side panel isn't clear so no big deal. it is quiet and I'm sure it's a better overall p/s than the hiper.
I'm tickled pink that no other components were effected or damaged.
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