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bioshock pc lagging
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armyman45
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4. May 2008 @ 18:11 |
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ok so i have bioshock on my pc n it wasnt running properly at first so i set it to run an in xp service pack 2 and it runs but its laggy so i turned my graphics as low as possible and its still a lil choppy like ill hold down foward let go and ill still keep goin ofr a sec or two same with all the controlls thier either slightly delayed or keep doing the action after i stop hitting the button
i did the nvidia can my comper play this game thing and it said my computer was a lil bit above the recomended except my sound card which i got the sound working anyways
system specs are
2 processors running - Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU E2140 @ 1.60GHz
2.0 GB System RAM
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Edition, 32-bit (Build 6000)
You Have: NVIDIA GeForce 8300 GS (GeForce 8300 GS)
Video Card Features - Minimum attributes of your Video Card Video RAM: Required - 512 MB , You have - 880.2 MB
Video Card 3D Acceleration: Required - Yes , You have - Yes
Video HW Transform & Lighting: Required - Yes , You have - Yes
Vertex Shader Ver.: Required - 3.0 , You have - 4.0
Pixel Shader Ver.: Required - 3.0 , You have - 4.0
by the way i also run bioshock in the lowest graphics setting to make it load faster and the button lagging still happens
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4. May 2008 @ 23:10 |
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unless you're overclocking your e2140, performance isn't gonna be good for gaming. most people would overclock the e2140 to at least 3ghz, because it's cheap and has overclock potential.
also the 8300GS is not a gaming card. you would at least need a 8600GTS 512 or ATi HD3850 512 to get stable gameplay.
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armyman45
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5. May 2008 @ 15:13 |
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Originally posted by cee43ja1:
unless you're overclocking your e2140, performance isn't gonna be good for gaming. most people would overclock the e2140 to at least 3ghz, because it's cheap and has overclock potential.
also the 8300GS is not a gaming card. you would at least need a 8600GTS 512 or ATi HD3850 512 to get stable gameplay.
first of all i dont use many tech terms so overclocking would be? and the nvidia site said my card as long as its got the new drivers is slightly above the recomended, and yes i did update all drivers n such on my comp
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armyman45
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5. May 2008 @ 20:28 |
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ok i did some deffinition searching on overclocking do can anyone link me to another forum topic or site that could help me learn how to overclock my pc
(still continuing the bioshock problems though)
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6. May 2008 @ 13:36 |
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Yes, the processor is pretty bad, but that's not the root of your problem, it's your graphics card that is majorly affecting performance. The 8300 is (As far as i can remember) not actually available for the public to buy, only manufacturers, this is due to it being placed in only very low end PCs. As cee43ja1 said, you should be looking at upgrading your graphics card - his suggestions are good if you don't want to have to spend that much on gaming.
About overclocking your CPU:
Overclocking a CPU involves going into your BIOS and changing certain values. Overclock by too much and apart from your computer freezing or shutting down, you could harm the components. If you want to overclock, read up on it for a few hours or something, just so you know for sure what you're doing.
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armyman45
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7. May 2008 @ 18:21 |
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oh yes i forgot to add one more thing my computer can run crysis at medium graphics and not lag at all i run bioshock at lowest possible everything and its laggy if crysis supposed to be the more advanced than how come bioshock lags (i ussually run most of my games in lowest settings anyway to provide quicker load times)
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7. May 2008 @ 18:33 |
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Whoa steady on...
An 8400 (which is better than your graphics card (or at least the one you listed)) honestly struggles running Crysis above minimum settings at a good resolution.
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armyman45
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7. May 2008 @ 20:34 |
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yep i got mine to run medium-low on (800-600 res though) not full res. but it still didnt lag at all so that could be why i did get it to run pretty good at other higher res. but i just stuck with that one for ultra smoothness and loading times n junk
EDT. ok i just did some screen tests with crysis i can get it to run 1024-768 res on low with minimal lag i can run 800-600 on flat medium and get a lil more lag but i ussually run it low with some medium
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8. May 2008 @ 00:09 |
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bioshock is probably more cpu intensive. eventhough you have dual core e2140, it's not fast enough for gaming. you at least want 2.5ghz for gaming.
slightly above the recommendation is just for getting playable rates. it's not going to be guaranteed to be smooth.
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8. May 2008 @ 06:51 |
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Another thing to note - You most likely don't actually meet recommended specs.
Your dedicated video memory registers as 880.2MB, this figure is wrong, srtest (I presume you used that?) doesn't always measure the dedicated memory only (Usually only on the lower end cards). The 8300GS truly only has 128MB of dedicated memory, this is the minimum for the game to run, the same with Crysis. This is very important, you should have 256MB of dedicated memory at least to run new games at a reasonable resolution and with textures looking nice.
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armyman45
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8. May 2008 @ 18:43 |
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Originally posted by Shokz:
Another thing to note - You most likely don't actually meet recommended specs.
Your dedicated video memory registers as 880.2MB, this figure is wrong, srtest (I presume you used that?) doesn't always measure the dedicated memory only (Usually only on the lower end cards). The 8300GS truly only has 128MB of dedicated memory, this is the minimum for the game to run, the same with Crysis. This is very important, you should have 256MB of dedicated memory at least to run new games at a reasonable resolution and with textures looking nice.
the nvidia site said my card has 880 my system info says 512 either way i said i CAN run crysis im having absolutely no problems with that no matter what the statistics say crysis run great its bioshock thats the problemo
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8. May 2008 @ 18:49 |
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If i'm looking things up right, i understand it as thus;
The card has 128MB RAM, supporting up to 512MB with Turbocache (which is what windows notices). As i said before, 128MB is the minimum for the games to run, you should be looking to get a better graphics card. The best option would be to get both a new CPU and graphics card, but if you can only afford one, go with a new graphics card.
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armyman45
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8. May 2008 @ 19:48 |
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Originally posted by Shokz:
If i'm looking things up right, i understand it as thus;
The card has 128MB RAM, supporting up to 512MB with Turbocache (which is what windows notices). As i said before, 128MB is the minimum for the games to run, you should be looking to get a better graphics card. The best option would be to get both a new CPU and graphics card, but if you can only afford one, go with a new graphics card.
duely noted is there anything else i can do to my pc other than buying new equipment im getting a new comp next fall anyway but im talkin just for now so i can run bioshock a lil better
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8. May 2008 @ 19:58 |
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NEXT Autumn? That's a while to wait with your 8300GS, before then, games will really start to lag, even at minimum, if you really have to wait, drop into the market for a new PC when the GeForce 10 series come out (Whenever that will be, though surely before Q3 '09). Or you could wait for the prices of the 9800GTX to drop, i'm willing to bet that by the start of next year they'll be around £130 (In the USA i'd guess at just over $200 'cos computer components are cheaper over there). With that kind of card you'd be set up for the next few years.
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armyman45
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9. May 2008 @ 21:06 |
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Originally posted by Shokz:
NEXT Autumn? That's a while to wait with your 8300GS, before then, games will really start to lag, even at minimum, if you really have to wait, drop into the market for a new PC when the GeForce 10 series come out (Whenever that will be, though surely before Q3 '09). Or you could wait for the prices of the 9800GTX to drop, i'm willing to bet that by the start of next year they'll be around £130 (In the USA i'd guess at just over $200 'cos computer components are cheaper over there). With that kind of card you'd be set up for the next few years.
well im not HUGE into pc gaming theres just some games id rather have on the pc so im not goin for anything too expensive i got a 360 bioshock and crysis were gifts so thats whay i was trying so hard to get em to work however i do intend to get a rlly good card (when i get around to it)
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Emarosa
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13. June 2008 @ 00:16 |
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I know this is an old thread, but I am also having the same problem and I'm wondering if my processor can handle Bioshock. It is a amd athlon 64 x2 dual core processor 5600+ 2.80 GHZ. If that isn't it, I'm not sure what the problem is... Any help would be appreciated.
To the OP, sorry for jacking your original thread, just figured that I wouldn't create a new thread for the same problem...
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13. June 2008 @ 00:36 |
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the x2 5600 should be fine, since the minimum processor required is a 2.4 pentium 4.
most likely your graphics card is not up to it.
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Emarosa
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13. June 2008 @ 00:37 |
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How do I check that out?
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13. June 2008 @ 00:48 |
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do you have a graphics card installed? or are you using the onboard graphics?
go HERE and choose bioshock from the list. it'll tell you if your system can run it.
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Emarosa
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13. June 2008 @ 00:51 |
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Alright so everything else passed except for the video card. What is my best option? I'm looking for something cheap, quick and easy, especially since I don't do very much PC gaming. None, in fact. Bioshock is the first game I've bought, so its kind of depressing that I can't play it.
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13. June 2008 @ 00:55 |
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getting a graphics card for a prebuilt is not cheap. when you upgrade, you'll need a new power supply. and it depends on what slot your motherboard uses.
what is the model of your computer?
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Emarosa
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13. June 2008 @ 00:57 |
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13. June 2008 @ 01:07 |
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THIS power supply, and THIS graphics card will do. everything totals to about $220, but the power supply has a $10 rebate.
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13. June 2008 @ 08:20 |
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just had a quick read. lagging of game graphics means make sure you have the latest graphic drivers installed i know from personal experiance that ingame movies can lag and some games won't even start unless these drivers are updated. perchance, the actual gameplay graphics could also be affected. i hope this helps
EDIT: the options within the game are also VERY important! there can be one option which can cause this problem whether it is on or off. i suggest whatever is off, turn it on. and whatever is on, turn it off. basically do the exact opposite of the graphics options configuration. and if it helps, you can change the options bit by bit to your liking and pin point the option of error from experience i had big problem with a graphic option which was set to low in one game (need for speed) and had a major problem for something else because i turned one of the options up even though there was no performance hit (tomb raider).
for nfs it was reflection update rate
for tomb raider it was anti-aliaing. you may want to test these options before inverting your graphic options
by the way, nice specs!!!!! i'm really impressed!!! i thought you could only get pixel shader 3!!!
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Emarosa
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14. June 2008 @ 00:49 |
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Is there anyway to upgrade the video card's ram without having to buy a new video card? Or is a video card stuck with its ram no matter what? (sorry for the dumb questions, I just don't know much at all about hardware)
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