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Backed up movie skips, has piece of previous burn in it.
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alesmith
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7. May 2008 @ 09:59 |
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I've been backing up my dvd collection for years. I recently got motivated to continue backing up everything and unfortunately, I realized after 50+ burns that some of the movies were skipping when I watched them. It seemed to be at the chapter marks but after some tedious trying, I found it wasn't really at the chapter mark. I checked not only the disk but the backed up files and some how a piece of a previous burn that I had deleted was in these movie files.
It went like this: I had burned the movie What Women Want (my wife's), I promptly deleted it off the hard drive and continued ripping and burning. I ended up doing Goodfellas at some point and decided to watch it, it skipped something fierce, it would hit a point, freeze and skip forward sometimes a few minutes and sometimes just a few seconds. I thought it might be a bad dvd so I watched Taxi Driver and it did the same thing. I examined the Taxi driver files since they were still on my hard drive and I got to the parts where it skipped and a scene from What Women Want was there. I could get it to play on the pc but not on my tv.
I use anydvd to decrypt and dvd shrink to shrink and rip from the original dvd. I save it to an external hard drive and use ImgBurn to burn.
I decided to format the hard drive but I was wondering if anyone has had this happen and/or anyone had any ideas as to why.
Is there some sort of cache that needs to be cleared?
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7. May 2008 @ 11:07 |
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your problem is not the programs used to back up your DVDs.... it's the media! Pixelations, skipping, freezing are from using poor media. the best media out there is Taiyo Yuden.... it's the most recognized media and that means compatibility! Verbatim is another good quality disk (just don't buy the ones made in India). I found that the 8x media is better than the 16x media because some players are picky with the 16x media. They burn ok but be aware that some older players may have a problem with them and start skipping, freezing and pixelate! the reason you are having problems now because the media can not withstand the test of time! When you first burned the media and it worked.... now it's older.... using poor media will degrade just enough to make your disk unreadable by your player. some other player may be able to read it... ones that are not that picky. so starting off with good media means alot! Taiyo Yuden or Verbatim, 8x, +R media and booktype to DVD-ROM will make your media more compatible with most DVD players! So far after 4 yrs my disks play in every player that I have ever stuck them into. that includes families and friends.
keep your programs up to date, burn at half the rated speed of the DVD being burned to, store them properly and you won't have problems anymore.
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7. May 2008 @ 11:24 |
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Good Brother Ihoe is right on!
Blank media is the central cause for the problems you mentioned.
Follow the advice he laid out for you and you'll be all set.
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alesmith
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7. May 2008 @ 11:28 |
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How does the type of media end up placing scenes from a different movie onto a disc? That makes no sense.
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alesmith
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7. May 2008 @ 11:39 |
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I might add, its not the skipping thats the real issue, the skipping is due to pieces of other files somehow ending up in movie files during encoding with Shrink.
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7. May 2008 @ 11:55 |
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the only way to process another title set in Shrink would be to add it!!! there is no possible way to add more video in with another video without adding it! Sooooooooo you'll have to go step by step on how you added your ripped files to Shrink and make sure you added them properly.
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alesmith
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7. May 2008 @ 12:01 |
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Originally posted by IHoe:
the only way to process another title set in Shrink would be to add it!!! there is no possible way to add more video in with another video without adding it! Sooooooooo you'll have to go step by step on how you added your ripped files to Shrink and make sure you added them properly.
All I do is have AnyDVD open in the background, open DVDShrink and hit "Open Disc", I then hit "Backup" and save it to my external hard drive. Then I burn with IMGBurn. The weird thing in this situation is how this piece of another movie (one that was even deleted at the time) got inserted into the saved, encoded file from shrink.
I am assuming at this point some weird happened on the drive that allowed this to occur, perhaps some corrupt data floating around. I went ahead and formatted the drive, ripped Taxi Driver again and it seems fine. I guess the problem was the hard drive but I can't figure out how it happened.
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7. May 2008 @ 13:41 |
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I think a badly fragmented drive could cause errant bits to be included. I've had it happen in docs.
Remember to defrag your drives routinely.
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alesmith
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7. May 2008 @ 13:46 |
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Originally posted by hobbit112:
I think a badly fragmented drive could cause errant bits to be included. I've had it happen in docs.
Remember to defrag your drives routinely.
How often would you recommend it?
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7. May 2008 @ 13:51 |
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I defrag whenever I get to 10% file fragmentation.
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7. May 2008 @ 13:53 |
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Thinking also a "stuffed" drive could contribute to the problem. Try to keep at least 25% free space on each drive.
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7. May 2008 @ 17:09 |
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I think hobbit112 is right. Your drive must be stuffed/overly fragmented. Even though you have deleted the previous files, they are not completely gone(that's why data recovery data can recover deleted/lost data). The information gets written over.
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alesmith
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9. May 2008 @ 10:18 |
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I'm still getting the issue. This is driving me nuts. I'm going to try some more stuff and update this thread, hopefully I'll figure it out and it will be here for anyone else who runs into this.
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9. May 2008 @ 11:36 |
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sooooooooo alesmith.........after reformatting your hard drive...... which is supposed to get rid of EVERYTHING and then trying again....... you are still getting the UNWANTED video mixed in with the one you really want to keep and then burn to disk! I guess that a heavy fragmented or heavily used Hard Drive isn't really the problem. I never heard of anyone having this problem ...... UNLESS YOU HAVE A VIRUS that you can't get rid of in your hard drive? Could this be possible? or are you still saying:
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I could get it to play on the pc but not on my tv.
which is it?
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alesmith
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9. May 2008 @ 13:19 |
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Originally posted by IHoe:
sooooooooo alesmith.........after reformatting your hard drive...... which is supposed to get rid of EVERYTHING and then trying again....... you are still getting the UNWANTED video mixed in with the one you really want to keep and then burn to disk! I guess that a heavy fragmented or heavily used Hard Drive isn't really the problem. I never heard of anyone having this problem ...... UNLESS YOU HAVE A VIRUS that you can't get rid of in your hard drive? Could this be possible? or are you still saying:
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I could get it to play on the pc but not on my tv.
which is it?
What I meant in that quote was I could get the unwanted scene from the deleted movie to play on the pc but not the tv, on the tv the disk simply skipped forward passed it.
I'm guessing the hard drive is not the cause because I burned a disc last night and it skipped forward as well, albiet not near as frequently as before. I couldn't get the disc to show me a scene from another movie like the first one did, but I would bet its still there.
Do any of these programs keep a cache that could be emptied?
I decided to reinstall all my programs and I'm going to rip the disc first and then shrink it as opposed to letting anydvd do its thing while shrink re-encodes. It has to be happening during shrink re-encoding the movie, since I saw the error in the files made in addition to seeing them on the disc.
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9. May 2008 @ 15:09 |
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Try a chkdsk /f, you've probably had something go slightly amiss in the filesystem..
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djkrishna
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10. May 2008 @ 09:35 |
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GUYS
i think he is using dvd=rw or dvd-rw
when it has a movie and try to burn it it will ask u
do u wanna erase it
and ther's two option
quck one full one
if u use quick one it will leave some info
the reason being when we use rw's the burners won't close sessions
i think he is choosing the quick one
try to erase full disc
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alesmith
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13. May 2008 @ 14:33 |
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Well, good news and bad.
Good news is, I no longer have the issue.
Bad news is, I can't say exactly why as I did everything in the book to solve it.
I formatted my external hard drive. I reinstalled my programs I use to rip/shrink/burn. I am now using Anydvd to decrypt and rip the movie to the external drive, then I shrink it, and burn. The movies are coming out flawless now. I know the problem occurred while Shrink was encoding the disc, I figured ripping it before hand would make the process a bit more surefire, since I've read of people having issues shrinking straight from the disc.
Thanks for all the helpful insight and my appologies for not providing a solid solution.
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