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motherboard/processer help
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saadzaman
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7. May 2008 @ 14:25 |
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IF I AM GOING TO BUILD A new computer with an amd black edition 5000+ cpu then would a MSI K9A2 CF-F V2 be best motherboard
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8. May 2008 @ 10:38 |
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Probably not, and don't build a PC with the 5000+ CPU, it's really slow compared to most CPUs these days.
Use something like an intel E2200 or E6750 CPU with a Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L motherboard instead.
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saadzaman
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8. May 2008 @ 16:04 |
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on stock isn't a be 5000+ faster than a 2200, i am planning to overclock but very little probably only to 3.0 ghz
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8. May 2008 @ 18:43 |
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At stock they're not very much different. Given the comparative price, the Intel certainly works out faster. Remember 3.0ghz is a 50% overclock, that is not very little. it'll be easy with the 2200, but practically impossible with the AMD.
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saadzaman
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10. May 2008 @ 11:04 |
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with the arctic cooling 64 pro the be 5000+can easily hit a very stable 3.10 ghz
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10. May 2008 @ 12:57 |
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Ah my bad, the 5000+ is 2.6 not 2.4 isn't it? Yeah 3.0-3.1Ghz should be doable, but it's worth noting that at that speed it's only the equivalent of a 2.5Ghz Intel, and you can get an E2200 to beyond 3.2Ghz with no sweat, especially with the equivalent Freezer 7 Pro cooler.
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saadzaman
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10. May 2008 @ 21:59 |
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this is my first time overclocking, so with the be 5000+ with an unlocked mutlipier it is much easier to overclock, and how is a 3.1 ghz with amd = to 2.5 ghz with intel e2200
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10. May 2008 @ 22:10 |
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Because it is, the Core 2 based CPUs are much faster per mhz than the AMDs. It isn't all about the clock speed.
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saadzaman
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10. May 2008 @ 22:50 |
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ok if so then isn't it still better for me a first time overclocker to get the be 5000+ cause it is easier to overclock... and how stable is the e2200 at 2.5 ghz
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10. May 2008 @ 22:51 |
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The E2200 is much easier to overclock, I assure you. Core 2 Duos are ridiculously easy to overclock, all you have to do is change two numbers if you use the Gigabyte board I posted, then it does the rest. Similar cost, significantly greater performance, why not go for it?
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saadzaman
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10. May 2008 @ 22:54 |
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k but won't the processor die a lot faster if i oc a lot... also what if i get a dfi blood iron board then how easy is it to oc
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10. May 2008 @ 23:00 |
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Unless you really know what you're doing, stay away from DFI boards, they give you too many options to change that could cause you problems. If you overclock your CPU correctly (post in our official overclocking thread for advice on that) your CPU should last almost as long as if you hadn't overclocked it - and trust me, that'll still be far longer than you'll want the CPU before it becomes obsolete.
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saadzaman
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10. May 2008 @ 23:08 |
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k so how well can u oc with a gigabyte board...
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11. May 2008 @ 09:19 |
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I have a Core 2 Duo E4300 with my board, it's normally 1.8Ghz. I have it running at 3.15Ghz, a 75% overclock. All I had to do was set overclocking to enabled, change the FSB speed to 350, and set the memory multiplier to 2.00D. That's it!
Your mileage may vary of course, so don't use the exact numbers I have, but we can help you get the best ones possible if you post in the official OC'ing thread once you get your kit.
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saadzaman
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11. May 2008 @ 13:16 |
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ok so what would be better getting a e2200 which is 2.2 ghz or 2.4 ghz or getting the e4400, e4600... (at stock and overclock)
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11. May 2008 @ 17:01 |
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The E4000 series will be a better buy, but only if it doesn't cost you much more, there's not a lot in it.
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saadzaman
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11. May 2008 @ 18:51 |
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i can get e4400 for $103
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11. May 2008 @ 19:02 |
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Pretty sweet deal, may as well go with it.
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saadzaman
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11. May 2008 @ 19:26 |
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wouldn't e4400 be worse at stock cause it is slower than the 2.2 ghz of the e2200
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11. May 2008 @ 19:55 |
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The E2200 is 2.0Ghz as well.
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saadzaman
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11. May 2008 @ 20:55 |
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11. May 2008 @ 22:08 |
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If you're going for an economical but quality build, I'd almost have to recommend my own motherboard. The Gigabyte-P35-DS3. Pretty cheap at newegg and very nice motherboards. sammorris had one too :P I got a pretty nice OC out of my board. Any of those CPUs mentioned will do 3GHz easily with it.
If you had your heart set on AMD, the 5000+ BE is about the best option by far. It has an almost 100% chance of hitting 3GHz on stock voltage. Will hit 3.2GHz on 1.4 volts. My friend did it and it's at least as fast as a stock e6600. Plays all games, even Crysis, and runs programs smoothly. Gets a 10,000 3Dmark06 score with a 9600GT 512MB. So, not a slouch like sammorris seems to claim :P
I'd say get what best fits your budget.
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12. May 2008 @ 07:27 |
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Sorry, I'm being a dumbass, I thought the E2180 was the 1.8Ghz not the 2160. Given this fact the E2200 is in leagues with the E4500, not the 4400, so pick the 2200 out.
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saadzaman
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12. May 2008 @ 16:00 |
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Originally posted by Estuansis:
If you're going for an economical but quality build, I'd almost have to recommend my own motherboard. The Gigabyte-P35-DS3. Pretty cheap at newegg and very nice motherboards. sammorris had one too :P I got a pretty nice OC out of my board. Any of those CPUs mentioned will do 3GHz easily with it.
If you had your heart set on AMD, the 5000+ BE is about the best option by far. It has an almost 100% chance of hitting 3GHz on stock voltage. Will hit 3.2GHz on 1.4 volts. My friend did it and it's at least as fast as a stock e6600. Plays all games, even Crysis, and runs programs smoothly. Gets a 10,000 3Dmark06 score with a 9600GT 512MB. So, not a slouch like sammorris seems to claim :P
I'd say get what best fits your budget.
so its a good product and when u say as fast as a stock e6600 is that maxing out the be 5000 or with it at stock voltage, cause i don't want to push it to far... and how fast is the stock e6600
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12. May 2008 @ 16:13 |
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The E6600 is relatively fast, but since you can get an E2200 to 3.2Ghz as easily as you can get a 5000+ to 3.0Ghz and have a PC that's good 30+% faster, I don't understand your hesitance towards using an Intel.
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