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Windows XP Service pack 3
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14. May 2008 @ 07:34 |
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Hi, I've put together a new computer and installed XP with service pack 2 and all the updates. Now microsoft update is telling me I need to install service pack 3 and calling it a 'high priority' critical update. I've never been asked to install service pack 3 before with any other computer. Do I really need it? What exactly has changed?
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susieqbbb
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14. May 2008 @ 09:30 |
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yes you really need it.
The reason all updates including internet explorer 8 which will be out by the end of the year will require service pack 3 and the speed boost on some machines is nice as well.
All service pack 3 contains is all the new security updates and fixes this is worth the download even better service pack 3 converts all versions of windows xp to professional status.
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14. May 2008 @ 21:11 |
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varnull
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14. May 2008 @ 22:47 |
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You need it like you need a hole in your ass.. it helps some machines with broken registrys.. but you may do better keeping your s--- to yourself. It phones home.
It breaks hundreds of applications and brings a heap of hated vista drm to XP.
The only people who may need it are serious gamers, and they should know better... WHO THE HELL RUNS INTERNET EXPLORER ONLINE ANYWAY??? I thought all but total n00bs ran firefox or safari or opera.
Better still, ditch M$ completely and look at free stable secure alternatives.
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15. May 2008 @ 01:10 |
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Originally posted by varnull:
ditch M$ completely and look at free stable secure alternatives.
If I could run all my games on linux I'd never look back.
So this is being pushed on everyone then? I thought it had something to do with the new hardware I'm using now.
Stepping stone to vista maybe? No thanks.
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15. May 2008 @ 13:07 |
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I love -varnull- creative thinking, hehe.
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20. May 2008 @ 20:50 |
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go on varnull you are right about ditching ms. you help me get a long with linux fine with out MS.
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shiloh72
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21. May 2008 @ 14:23 |
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service pak 3 isnt out yet you must have a junk copy their still testing it it wont be released til mid july.
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21. May 2008 @ 14:54 |
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wrong. sp3 is out, since the 6th. it's available via windows update or the microsoft site.
ps2: v7 scph-39001 - independence exploit - hdloader 0.8c - maxtor 300gb hdd
(+[__]%) psp slim ta-085v1: 6.60 PRO B10
wii (powered by bootmii/priiloader): 4.1u - d2x v10beta53-alt (base 56) - configurable usb loader v70r51/devolution r188 - wd scorpio black 7200rpm 320gig w/ ams venus ds2 enclosure
got a whole lot more to list . . .
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scorpNZ
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21. May 2008 @ 15:58 |
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It only contains all previous updates SP1,SP2 etc,there's a few bug fixes as well as giving you a small gain in speed on launching apps,for the most part it's aimed at admins with the extra's that were supplied with it for networking etc.
I personally would'nt waste my time installing it as it's not a major release like SP2 was,if your comps buggy you more than likley will find it will break it so my advice if you choose to install make sure you have a backup drive,you can use ghost or acronis,also it's necessary to delete IE7 before installing if you think you'll ever need to do a rollback to IE6,failing to remove IE7 will prevent any such roll back occuring
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shiloh72
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21. May 2008 @ 16:05 |
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Ok if you say so I work for microsoft it will not be out til july the only one thats out is the testing service pak3
lee mullin
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rulisky
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21. May 2008 @ 16:18 |
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SP3 is out. I downloaded it directly from the Microsoft update pages.
I have NOT installed it as of yet. Am waiting for more feedback to make a decision. So far, I have seen posts on the internet about it causing problems for people running HP desktops with AMD processors. Just run a search on XP SP3 problems to see what turns up will show this to you. Supposedly MS is working on a fix according to the posts I have seen.
I would be VERY careful in any decision to install this SP until more data is available and bugs are worked out!!
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21. May 2008 @ 18:07 |
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its definitely out.downloaded it from ms update,installed and yes quite a speed gain launching apps.no troubles so far.i tried the beta version tho and had to uninstall it as my comp was doing all sorts of weird things.didnt know about uninstalling ie7 tho.
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21. May 2008 @ 19:12 |
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scorpNZ
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21. May 2008 @ 20:14 |
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"pwd"
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rulisky
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21. May 2008 @ 21:21 |
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Originally posted by scorpNZ:
It only contains all previous updates SP1,SP2 etc,there's a few bug fixes as well as giving you a small gain in speed on launching apps,for the most part it's aimed at admins with the extra's that were supplied with it for networking etc.
I personally would'nt waste my time installing it as it's not a major release like SP2 was,if your comps buggy you more than likley will find it will break it so my advice if you choose to install make sure you have a backup drive,you can use ghost or acronis,also it's necessary to delete IE7 before installing if you think you'll ever need to do a rollback to IE6,failing to remove IE7 will prevent any such roll back occuring
Yes, IE7 is installed on my system. However, I routinely use Firefox for browsing, not IE7. Since I would have NO need to go back to IE6, am I correct to understand it makes no difference to me regarding the uninstall of IE7 before installing SP3 (if I do decide to install it)?
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22. May 2008 @ 01:35 |
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Originally posted by ddp:
shiloh, you are full of bs as when i do updates on customers' computers, sp3 shows up so shut your mouth as the thunder is approaching!!! just found this http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/666150#4047091 & you work for ms!!!?
Ha Ha nice one ddp. I work for a welding company and I could have answered that!
I assure everyone it's there and it's not beta. It doesnt download with the automatic updates but if you manually connect to ms update it will come up as 'high priority'
I assumed sp3 had been around for a while, dont know where I got that idea.
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scorpNZ
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22. May 2008 @ 03:08 |
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Originally posted by rulisky:
Originally posted by scorpNZ:
It only contains all previous updates SP1,SP2 etc,there's a few bug fixes as well as giving you a small gain in speed on launching apps,for the most part it's aimed at admins with the extra's that were supplied with it for networking etc.
I personally would'nt waste my time installing it as it's not a major release like SP2 was,if your comps buggy you more than likley will find it will break it so my advice if you choose to install make sure you have a backup drive,you can use ghost or acronis,also it's necessary to delete IE7 before installing if you think you'll ever need to do a rollback to IE6,failing to remove IE7 will prevent any such roll back occuring
Yes, IE7 is installed on my system. However, I routinely use Firefox for browsing, not IE7. Since I would have NO need to go back to IE6, am I correct to understand it makes no difference to me regarding the uninstall of IE7 before installing SP3 (if I do decide to install it)?
You are correct i.e no diff
@ kiwi
It's been around for more than 6 months as a beta & was released early this year as final build but was removed due to breakages of computers, then re-released early last month,by all accounts it's still not right,i had to do a recovery for a mate who installed it on his hp last week,oddly enough i tried it while it was in beta last year & it installed & ran ok on my hp it also deleted ok as well,i also tried the beta version of IE8 out at around the same time.
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26. May 2008 @ 12:24 |
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I would like to know if I do a system restore before I install sp3 will I be able to use the system restore too go back.
This might seem like a lame question but I am worried that if Iinstall this I will not be able too go back if it don't work.
It is too live life too the fullest then never lived at all.
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scorpNZ
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26. May 2008 @ 20:38 |
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Personally my attitude towards system no restore is a waste of disk space & your better off with using either ghost or acronis to create either a backup image file or a complete image of the drive by cloning to a second hdd.
As for attempting to use system restore it's pretty much 50/50 if it will work that's assuming that SP3 does'nt break your system & cause endless reboots,in which case safe mode will be unaccessable & either a xp disk will be needed to execute a repair or if a branded model you'll have to use the built in recovery options,there's no real reason to install SP3 until the bugs are worked out as it's not a critical update if you already have SP1 & SP2 installed.
Microsoft,hp,dell etc are working on a bug fix,if however you decide to take the plunge,backup important data,email & contacts etc first,there's also info at microsoft of how to prepare for SP3 install
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It'd be best to read the white paper of what SP3 contains,you'll find it's more or less SP1 & SP2 combined so to speak
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26. May 2008 @ 21:38 |
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Well so far it messed up my avg and thats it and I think it speeded up some things a little we will see if that last.
It is too live life too the fullest then never lived at all.
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scorpNZ
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26. May 2008 @ 21:56 |
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If you feel like checking out some other freebie security software
www.spywareterminater.com/ : realtime spyware scanner & noitfy's if anthing try's to intall itself,does'nt apear to affect system performance even when scheduled scan starts
avast free antivirus : not sure if i like this as it scans everything when launching an app & can slow things down a bit,not by much still annoying ..lol..
comodo free firewall : only been using this for a few days so far tho all i can say is wow & it's free..lol..,i originally tried it early last year & did'nt like it,this time however they've made massive strides & i'm most impressed
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27. May 2008 @ 01:04 |
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Originally posted by wolf123:
I would like to know if I do a system restore before I install sp3 will I be able to use the system restore too go back.
This might seem like a lame question but I am worried that if Iinstall this I will not be able too go back if it don't work.
Just to let you know, a friend of mine was using sp3 and having countless problems. He was able to remove it through add and remove programs and the problems stopped, no need for system restore.
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28. May 2008 @ 10:07 |
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I installed sp3 and had a couple of issues like it not installing without a couple of fixes. Then I had abrupt crashes. After a restore and reinstall now it seems to be back to normal. If I had read about the problems before hand I wouldn't have bothered. It's too much hassle right now, best to wait 6 months for sp3 fix LOL.
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28. May 2008 @ 15:48 |
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I think I'd pass on installing SP3 right now. It's installing fine for some and causing countless problems for others. As said,the best bet is to take an image before it's installed. From what I see, System Restore should work but leaves a lot of junk behind which only a satisfactory install of SP3 can correct. Here's just one thread for HP, Compaq Presario owners: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r2044580...er-installation (follow link in link) and there's no end of others.
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