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25. July 2008 @ 02:56 |
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i have windows XP and would like to run Linux (Ubuntu) as well just to try it out for now and Ill see where that all goes when I get to that bridge. Would I install it just as it would be installing from fresh or what? I downloaded the Ubuntu ISO file and I'm gonna get a blank CD to burn it to. Is there anything else I need to do??? I really don't wanna screw up my windows XP files or anything. I only have a widows XP sp1 CD and don't feel like going through all those updates cause I was careless and didn't seek help before i got into something i new nothing about -_- lol
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OzMick
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25. July 2008 @ 03:26 |
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If you just stick it in and boot from it you'll get an idea of what it is all about without it ever even touching your hard drive, it has a full working copy on the disc itself that you can have a play with to see if your hardware all works etc. Ubuntu does have the ability to resize partitions etc I think, but if you have a blank hard drive then it is pretty straightforward and won't hurt Windows as long as you're careful and answer all the questions right.
Make a backup of all your Windows stuff in any case, it is a good habit to get into. Or even better, ghost the drive and if you break anything you've got a complete snapshot to fall back on.
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varnull
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25. July 2008 @ 07:17 |
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Heres what I don't get Mick.. people go to the ubuntu site to download the iso.. the main page is full of links to the forums and wiki and all sorts of guides and resources... but no.. they come here asking n00b questions.
Very long learning curve coming.
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25. July 2008 @ 23:55 |
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yea i wanted to actually TALK to people about it, i know i easily could of find a couple guides and stuff but i wanted a human being to human being talk about it. but no ignorant ppl like you go around calling ppl "noobs" just because you know something they arent experienced with. if you actually look up the word "noob" according to wikipedia (and im paraphrasing) a NOOB is simply annoying/ignorant/arrogant people that try to degrade other people to make themselves seem higher. while a NEWB is someone who just started getting into something (usually referring to video games) so the only noob i see here is u
anyways, sry to get a little off topic there...so I just stick in the Ubuntu disc and install it just as it would be like when doing a fresh install??? do I need to have my hard drive partitioned to do this or can I just do on the partition that my windows is on? Right now I have my hard drive partitioned in 1/2. one half for music/movies/apps and the other half for games
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15. October 2008 @ 15:05 |
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When I did it, I set up 3 partitions. If it was like a 100 gig hard drive, I did 48 gigs windows, 48 gigs ext3, and 4 gigs swap.
I installed windows first, then when I installed ubuntu, grub picked up on the windows also installed so I could choose. Hope this somewhat helps with the partitioning questions
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27. October 2008 @ 17:17 |
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Yea I did this same thing and yet I ended up ditching ubuntu. The live CD created from the iso will have a auto partitioner in it so you don't need to mess with anything. The only HUGE problem i came into with ubuntu (the reason i ditched it) is that I couldnt get my wireless card to work which makes the OS USELESS without internet. Before you waste any time doing it you should check if your card is capable with ubuntu and if not check NDISWrapper cababilites (I couldn't even use that) If you don't use wireless, ubuntu should run GREAT and it's very simple because of the auto partitioner.
Good Luck
PS all u gotta do for the partitioner is select how much space you want the windows and linux partitions to have (slide bar)
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27. October 2008 @ 17:21 |
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ndiswrapper... simple as that. If it's a winmodem type arrangement you need to buy a sensible piece of hardware, tho ndiswrapper should allow the wireless emulated hardware to work sort of.
More research was needed.. but dumping ubuntu would have happened soon enough anyway. It's actually odd that it didn't work.. latest ubuntu has very comprehensive wireless support... far better than any of the M$ offerings.
Anyway.. we exist here as troubleshooters.. not n00b hand holders :)
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Skwderydy
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27. October 2008 @ 17:42 |
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I research the NDISWrapper for DAYS and i found absolutley NO documentation of ANYONE getting my card to work properly I got stuck with the 1 RealTek that just wont work. It is true though I could of just bought a new card (Need to anyway cuz this one sucks and having a N router is pointless with this piece of crap)No money at time and just lost interest
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27. October 2008 @ 17:47 |
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You have the option of not only the live cd but also you can install it as tho it was a normal piece of software from inside windows (8.04 does not sure about 7.04).OK once you're ready to install,to save headaches my advice is put it on a slave hard drive but before you do install it no matter where create a xp boot disk first so if you uninstall linux windows will boot as normal,these are the files you need as follows.
Ok open drive C,click on TOOLS,open FOLDER OPTIONS,click on VIEW tab,in the list tick SHOW HIDDEN FILES & FOLDERS,then untick HIDE EXTENSIONS FOR KNOWN FILE TYPES,hit apply.You should now see a bunch of files slightly frosted looking,take the 3 files that i have mentioned & place in a floppy or cd,make 2 copies,one for backup.
These files will boot windows if you install linux to primary drive that windows on if you uninstall linux of any flavour,you should also get Kubuntu as it's sort similar to windows
boot.ini
NTLDR or ntldr depending on upper case or lower there will only be one
NTDETECT
You can also run linux inside MSVPC if you have 1gb of ram or more,for future refrence early versions of ubuntu etc can be used for systems that have little ram or if you want to run one inside a virtual pc
I also forgot to mention once linux disk has booted,you get the language selection,after that hit the F4 key & select SAFE MODE then install,also if your going to be mucking around with partitioning it would pay to get acronis partitioner or partition magic 8.0 tho acronis would be better as pm 8 has'nt been updated for years,if you ever get a notification on the windows boot screen that "Disk check has been cancelled cannot lock drive" ,let windows boot normally go to RUN type MSCONFIG,tick the safeboot,option then run chkdsk from there it will fix that issue,you'll know what to do if it ever happens
I relise there's free partitioners but none compare from the two i've mentioned
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27. October 2008 @ 18:00 |
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eh?? that's windows.. and vm's.. lives in windoze software does that..
Linux partitioning.. at boot time pass init=2 to the kernel and use cfdisk.
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27. October 2008 @ 18:05 |
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Originally posted by varnull:
eh?? that's windows.. and vm's.. lives in windoze software does that..
Linux partitioning.. at boot time pass init=2 to the kernel and use cfdisk.
The latest distro of ubuntu can install in add/remove of xp
@DDRgod
I'd recommend a partition of 20gb & use 2gb of that as a swap file,linux does'nt take up that much room,you can use a data partition to hold any downloads you do it can be NTFS ,i'll post back later with a free windows software that lets you read linux partition data from with in windows
explore2fs
http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm
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27. October 2008 @ 18:41 |
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Originally posted by Skwderydy:
I research the NDISWrapper for DAYS and i found absolutley NO documentation of ANYONE getting my card to work properly I got stuck with the 1 RealTek that just wont work. It is true though I could of just bought a new card (Need to anyway cuz this one sucks and having a N router is pointless with this piece of crap)No money at time and just lost interest
Well if you decide to persevere with Ndiswrapper again i have this link you can follow - http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/563575
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28. October 2008 @ 00:59 |
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Latest distro of ubuntu.. apart from being bloated and still the same old crap uses that asshat wubi BS installer which does more harm than good...
Linux or windows.. but not both on the same machine.. That just leads to disaster and lazy non-learners only using windows while asking stoopid noob questions all over the message groups. They always get the same answer too RTFM.
Keep the wubi "installs from windows" sh1t where it belongs.. on the M$/ubuntu forums for the n00bs.. They deserve all they get..
Debian-Slackware-BSD..
ubuntu - windows with a different skin on it. Good for beginners.. but you don't find any serious linux users who need to DO STUFF using it ;)
It might be pretty obvious by now what I think about n00buntu... actually it's more what I think about people who are unable to RTFM and think for themselves.. I don't actually give a toss if somebody can't work it.. Not my problem.. You have more chance of getting an obscure piece of hardware working with linux than you ever will have if there isn't a windoze driver for it.
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9. January 2009 @ 03:58 |
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I guess simply put, if you want to try a small change to the linux world, you'll need to repartition your HDD. Partition Magic will do this. Then install the version of Linux that you want into your new partition space, now you'll use an ext3 file system instead of the windows crap ntfs or fat32. Install and rtm online for instructions on how to use your new o/s.
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27. January 2009 @ 22:02 |
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If you are a total nube to Linux, try this book from your local library or Amazon.com
Linux(R) Desktop Garage (Garage Series) by Susan Matteson (Paperback - Feb 25, 2005)
Buy new: $29.99
29 Used & new from $3.21
Usually ships in 2 to 3 weeks
Eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping.
4.5 out of 5 stars (6)
It may be old, but worth the read if only to learn the general history and vocabulary.
Hazel
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20. April 2009 @ 09:56 |
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i just want to say quickly that i have been reading lots of threads for advice etc.. and i would like to say varnull you have a serious attitude problem!!
Thanks
Tom
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20. April 2009 @ 13:18 |
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suck it and see XD
Attitude? name listed.. go ahead.. ask a few retard questions :)
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2. July 2009 @ 06:43 |
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before attempting to do any dual booting how about you first use some type of virtualization program example vmware...
with this you can mess with several linux distros before deciding which one you would like to have. ><
dont forget ask yourself one question. why would you want to try linux?
also be sure to research, read and understand the risks of attempting Dual/triple boot. I killed my vista partition once because I wasnt careful enough haha
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HazelB (Junior Member) 27. January 2009 @ 19:02
If you are a total nube to Linux, try this book from your local library or Amazon.com
Linux(R) Desktop Garage (Garage Series) by Susan Matteson (Paperback - Feb 25, 2005)
Buy new: $29.99
29 Used & new from $3.21
Usually ships in 2 to 3 weeks
Eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping.
4.5 out of 5 stars (6)
It may be old, but worth the read if only to learn the general history and vocabulary.
and lulz hazel i remember reading that like 3 yrs ago im sure you can find it scanned by now
later
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