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HD DVD-R --- Coasters now?
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hluhluwe
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27. July 2008 @ 08:13 |
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I have a few HD DVD-R blank discs that I bought a while ago. Are these coasters at this point, or can I burn data onto them somehow? I can't find any leftover HD DVD burners. I guess there are none around because they never really became available before the format died. Anyway, is there anything I can do with one of these, other than placing my beer on it?
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27. July 2008 @ 14:35 |
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Originally posted by hluhluwe:
I have a few HD DVD-R blank discs that I bought a while ago. Are these coasters at this point, or can I burn data onto them somehow? I can't find any leftover HD DVD burners. I guess there are none around because they never really became available before the format died. Anyway, is there anything I can do with one of these, other than placing my beer on it?
Yeah, use it for coffee, soft drinks, etc.
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JaguarGod
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27. July 2008 @ 17:16 |
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Send them to me. I collect old media :P Funny thing is I actually do have 2 CD-R that are old... They are TDK and cost $6 each back then. Also, for some reason, I have some blank Taiyo Yuden DVD+R 8x that I am not using... I only buy TY media, so this makes no sense to me... Maybe I am a media collector.
You can maybe find a burner down the line, but I doubt you will see the price drop. Not worth spending $400 to burn 30GB worth of data... Seriously, if you are just going to throw them out, you can send them to me.
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goodswipe
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28. July 2008 @ 10:33 |
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I like to use them as frisbees or weapons. Cut little slices in them and they make a great Chinese throwing star.
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JaguarGod
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29. July 2008 @ 21:59 |
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Maybe, I can start a thread on donating HD DVD Discs to me... Then, when I make a movie or animation I can burn them to HD DVD and sell it in both HD DVD and DVD... Or do you think they still press HD DVDs? There has to be like 250,000 of these players out there, so I feel it is unfair not to offer people HD DVD version of movies.
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totalwise
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30. July 2008 @ 18:27 |
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you might be lucky, and find a recycling facility for them somewhere
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30. July 2008 @ 20:56 |
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So you bought HD DVD blanks before you had a drive that could burn them. I would take a least one and glue it to your pc to remind you not to buy any BluRay dvds until you have a way to burn them. LMAO
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hluhluwe
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31. July 2008 @ 06:14 |
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Thanks for the tip, but I've been successfully burning BDs for quite a while now. You're right, I really should have bought the HD writer first, but I guess I didn't anticipate they would never be available. Did Toshiba (or others) ever release any units, such as the SD-H903A?
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goodswipe
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31. July 2008 @ 10:09 |
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Originally posted by JaguarGod:
Maybe, I can start a thread on donating HD DVD Discs to me... Then, when I make a movie or animation I can burn them to HD DVD and sell it in both HD DVD and DVD... Or do you think they still press HD DVDs? There has to be like 250,000 of these players out there, so I feel it is unfair not to offer people HD DVD version of movies.
The movie studios don't want HD DVD due to its lack of DRM, so therefore you wont see anymore new HD DVD titles.
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juankerr
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31. July 2008 @ 10:35 |
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Originally posted by goodswipe:
The movie studios don't want HD DVD due to its lack of DRM, so therefore you wont see anymore new HD DVD titles.
LOL! Come on goodswipe. You and I know it was more than just DRM that decided the war. (Hint: $$$$$)
Fact: Both HD DVD and BluRay have the AACS DRM scheme.
Fact: Only a few titles have BD+:
List of BD+ titles from the Slysoft forum
If it was DRM that made the studios choose BluRay then why do very few titles actually have BD+?
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goodswipe
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31. July 2008 @ 10:44 |
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If it was DRM that made the studios choose BluRay then why do very few titles actually have BD+?
Well, like you said, money! Plus the fact that the Blu-ray folks pitched the idea that Blu-ray was more secure. And I know that HD DVD and Blu-ray both use the same AACS protection. But from what I know about corporations and how they work, I'm sure they pitched the whole idea about BD+ to the studios whether they told them the complete truth about that or not.
So it might have gone something like this:
With BD+, we are giving you even more protection then HD DVD can. We know you want the best possible protection for your media, so take a look at this graph.
Now whether or not they told them it would be used on all disks or just some, who knows. Sounds plausible to me. Oh yea, let's not forget about HD DVD being region free!
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juankerr
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31. July 2008 @ 10:55 |
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Fox is the only studio that insists on BD+ in its releases - and it was BluRay exclusive since the beginning.
Judging from what Ive read in the avs and slysoft forums, the other studios don't really care too much about BD+ at this time. I don't see how DRM was a crucial factor in winning the war.
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goodswipe
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31. July 2008 @ 11:03 |
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I'm not going to argue anymore with you about this. I gave my reasons why it may have won. And I also forgot to mention the fact that HD DVD was region free in my post towards him. If I would have know you were going to come along and start some debate, I would have pulled out all the ammo. I was just making a mere suggestion towards his post.
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juankerr
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31. July 2008 @ 11:19 |
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A lot of BluRay titles are actually region free. A friend who lives in France imports cheaper Region A titles from amazon US.
Again Fox is the only studio that releases all titles region-locked. Warner, Universal and Paramount release all titles region-free. Disney, Lionsgate and Sony have some region-free and some region-locked.
According to bluraystats.com about 2/3's of all BluRay titles are region free.
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goodswipe
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31. July 2008 @ 11:20 |
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Originally posted by juankerr:
A lot of BluRay titles are actually region free. A friend who lives in France imports cheaper Region A titles from amazon US.
Again Fox is the only studio that releases all titles region-locked. Warner, Universal and Paramount release all titles region-free. Disney, Lionsgate and Sony have some region-free and some region-locked.
Is this new or something? From the very beginning of this war, that was one of HD DVDs best selling points - REGION FREE!
When did this happen?
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juankerr
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31. July 2008 @ 11:25 |
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Originally posted by goodswipe:
Is this new or something? From the very beginning of this war, that was one of HD DVDs best selling points - REGION FREE!
When did this happen?
It's common knowledge among those following the formats.
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goodswipe
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31. July 2008 @ 12:45 |
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Common knowledge eh? Wouldn't a simple, "it's always been that way", type of answer work, opposed to being an ass hat?
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juankerr
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31. July 2008 @ 12:48 |
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Originally posted by goodswipe:
Common knowledge eh? Wouldn't a simple, "it's always been that way", type of answer work, opposed to being an ass hat?
I apologize if I sounded like an "ass hat." It wasn't my intention to insult you in any way.
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varnull
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31. July 2008 @ 15:39 |
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Region free manufacturing makes a lot of sense when the prospective total sales of a title may be in the thousands rather than the millions or tens of millions.
I guess the region locked titles from other than Fox have been the bigger box office grossing movies, but i have no interest in the format so possible figures will not be forthcoming.
If somebody who can actually be bothered looking them up could post some it may be an interesting glimpse into the future development of anti-consumer marketing methods by the cartel. I'm not having a go at anybody, it might be an interesting investigation into the methods of fleecing the maximum possible payment from the consumer.
As for your coasters.. keep them somewhere dark and cool.. they may not be worth much at the moment, but like all obsolete media formats one day they will be worth a lot of money to the right person.
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eatsushi
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31. July 2008 @ 15:53 |
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Originally posted by varnull:
If somebody who can actually be bothered looking them up could post some it may be an interesting glimpse into the future development of anti-consumer marketing methods by the cartel.
BluRay region free references:
http://bluray.liesinc.net/
http://movietyme.blogspot.com/
http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?showtopic=50447
The first link is the best since you can filter by studio. juankerr is correct in saying that all Warner, Universal and Paramount releases are region-free. It's surprising to note that a great majority of Sony's releases are also region-free. Overall about 67% of all BluRay releases are region-free according to bluraystats.com.
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JaguarGod
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31. July 2008 @ 16:25 |
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Hey Goodswipe,
I will begin making an animation and I want to offer it on HD DVD (not exclusively of course). The problem comes with replication. There is a minimum number that you can press, and I doubt I can even find a facility that offers HD DVD. Also, I have no idea as to the release date of the animation, so I cannot say what will be available in the future.
If there are 250,000 people with HD DVD players out there, I do not think they should be forced to buy a different format if they want to watch something on HD. Maybe the studios are heartless, but I am not. Making a profit is not my chief concern, actually, I would rather not make a profit and create quality animation than make a profit by making utter crap.
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varnull
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1. August 2008 @ 19:58 |
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Originally posted by eatsushi:
Originally posted by varnull:
If somebody who can actually be bothered looking them up could post some it may be an interesting glimpse into the future development of anti-consumer marketing methods by the cartel.
BluRay region free references:
http://bluray.liesinc.net/
http://movietyme.blogspot.com/
http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?showtopic=50447
The first link is the best since you can filter by studio. juankerr is correct in saying that all Warner, Universal and Paramount releases are region-free. It's surprising to note that a great majority of Sony's releases are also region-free. Overall about 67% of all BluRay releases are region-free according to bluraystats.com.
Very interesting reading. Strange to see some lesser known titles from sony region locked while larger titles are region free..
Hmmm.. Now I'm interested.. I may follow that further.. Thanks for the links.
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