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I have a confession to make
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OzMick
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27. July 2008 @ 09:03 |
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I feel so dirty. Stupid Nokia forced me to install Windows to get some updated maps into the GPS on my phone. Boy, I couldn't wait to come home to Linux... At least I didn't have to pay for the (dis)pleasure. I can't wait to obliterate that partition, all the stupid little restrictions that are built in to Windows to make each version appear to be "better value" (in terms of Home Basic, Premium etc) when in reality it is just greed, the coding has already been done, all that you're paying for is the flicking of a switch...
Ah well, got a nice reminder of why I gave it all up, and why never to go back. Just had to get that off my chest.
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varnull
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27. July 2008 @ 10:09 |
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Yeah.. that's the one thing that really sucks. It puzzles me that these phone companies who run open source software on their phones just can't grasp that.
BUT.. heres a thing.. have you heard of gnokii? It's a bit random which phones it works for, but gives me better access to my 7250i than the hopeless nokia software which is set up so you have to pay for everything.
Every once in a while we need the reminder of why we dumped the M$ pretties... slow and restrictive.. and the one workspace is out of the dark ages ;)
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27. July 2008 @ 11:35 |
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Jan doesn't your Nokia have a flash memory card that you can access thru a USB connection to any type of PC. Or does Linux not support USB? I have no idea?
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OzMick
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27. July 2008 @ 17:44 |
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The phone can connect as a mass storage controller (and works well, have installed a number of programs and hacked it to run unsigned code from Linux), but the maps are a bit different. There are at least 256 folders that the files are fragmented over and god knows where else bits and pieces go, and then the Nokia supplied program needs to be connected in PC Suite mode. Can't use Wine or even (shudder) mono, because the Nokia devs in their infinite wisdom decided that they needed to code in .NET v3.0. I have nothing against .NET as a rapid prototyping platform, but it is such a lazy, stupefying language that anyone can pick it up, and I hate to break it to people, but not everyone can code well, and .NET is probably going to be responsible for turning low level skills into a lost art among Windows users. I just pray that the mono project doesn't poison other Linux projects further, it can still be blacklisted and Gnome will install except for Tomboy, but for how long?
Anyway, I have heard of gnokii, but I assume it can't do the map loading. I have found an alternative at http://nokiamaps.site666.info/ but I can't tell whether they are the latest maps, and the maps I loaded on seem somewhat buggy, I'm a couple kilometers from the ocean out to the east, but according to this there is grass out there. Oh, and a dam. They must be trying to tell me global warming is a lie and the ocean levels are dropping. I might have to drive over and visit you in sunny England some day Jan, I can probably get voice directions on my phone now. :P
I did try qemu too, but my cpu doesn't have the hardware extensions so it runs slow as shit, and then I was having issues getting the drivers in the VM to work (I had done -usb on cmd line and usb_add in monitor, but it was falling over part through detection and installation), so I just cut my losses and installed it on the second hard drive.
If you've got a symbian phone, may I suggest you check out http://www.ipmart-forum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=660 ;) There is a lot of very useful stuff on that forum...
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varnull
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27. July 2008 @ 18:51 |
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TBH.. it depends on the phone. I can do the n80 and n95 easily by dropping the maps into the appropriate folder, then using my dos boot floppy to run the activation keygen that I hacked up from the mac version. It's on the bay.. tomtom v5.000 :lol: and is for mac.. works on 40 and 60 series... the n80 is harder because you need to trick the phone into installing it, whereas the 60 series will install if it is stuck in the "software" or "apps" folder. Been a while since I did one.. they were blocked phones going for export... soooooo.... eastern europe maps the order of the day ..lmao!
To garmoon.. no my old phone doesn't have a card.. it has 4mb onboard that nokia have only let us have 100k of access to with their software.. gnokii has allowed me to change the installed games (nokia only allow download direct to phone) and update a couple of the apps.. ringtones are still locked down solid.. the stupid phone checksums them after a paid download.. and I ain't paying for ringtones that probably won't work on such an old phone anyways... I had to make a symlink from /dev/ttys1 to /dev/usb3.1_ep03 (bizarre) for the software to find my phone. Hotplug should cope with it, but tries to remove almost the complete OS.....
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27. July 2008 @ 19:09 |
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@varnull
My Nokia 6555 accepts micro SD cards. I have a 2MB one and use Audacity(free programs) to make and edit my own ringtones. I would never buy them either. My old Nokia I used the Nokia pc suite-POS! With new phone a snap to get pix-movies or ringtones to and from phone with cheap no Nokia(on line) USB cord. Hope you enjoyed your weekend-now back to the grind tomorrow. later
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varnull
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27. July 2008 @ 19:21 |
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Same here.. It's been a long weekend.. actually looking forward to the damn factory process hardware again to get me away from 64bit linux and it's weird problems.
I have more hope for my LG.. but that doesn't want to play, not even on windows with the right software.. I can't afford a new phone.. I only use about £10 a year for both.. nobody to call see. They are usually in my bag with the batteries flat ;)
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OzMick
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27. July 2008 @ 19:33 |
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Yeah, Route 66 and Tomtom maps are easy enough to load on, but Nokia Maps 2.0 are a right sodding PITA. Tomtom doesn't detect my built in GPS either, so scratch that. Phone has 120MB storage built in and came with a 1GB card, but I'm just getting an 8GB micro SD from dealextreme in the next week (not bad for $40), so just going to put the entire frigging planet full of maps on there in one hit and forget about it. Still leaves me with 4.5GB for music and taking photos, seeing as it has a 5MP camera built in.
As much a pain as getting navigation to work on Nokia Maps is, the interface IS well polished, and I'd probably prefer to use it over Route 66, as the maps are all free and legal, provided you have access to Winblows to put them on there. :(
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varnull
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28. July 2008 @ 01:16 |
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Dunno if this is any good to you... there is a gps thing called "viet" or similar for symbian, runs open source maps or make your own..
To use the built in gps device you need to symlink it to the bluetooth port, which means finding out which internal port it runs on :(
You might have guessed I don't give a crap about things being legal :looolz.
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