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gigabyte ep35 or ep45?
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andreewww
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7. August 2008 @ 19:49 |
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im stuck between the GIGABYTE GA-EP45-DS3L and the GIGABYTE GA-EP35-DS3L. the only thing i know is that the ep45 replaces one of the pci slots for a pci express x1 slot. what do people usually use pci express x1 cards for? also, does the ep45 have greater performances in OC in anyway?
i also noticed that the ep35 has a COM and LPT connection thing on the back. what is that used for?
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8. August 2008 @ 18:12 |
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PCIe 1x is used for the same purposes as PCI, but offers higher bandwidth. TV cards, bus controller cards, sound cards etc.
LPT is a parallel printer port, and I think COM is a serial port, the original sort. The EP45 board will probably have these, but as headers to use with an appropriate backplate, not provided on the rear of the board.
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andreewww
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8. August 2008 @ 18:26 |
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i dont think im going to use any of those ports since im using a printer via usb. so which board would you suggest i use?
also, whats the best crossfire motherboard? right now, im only using a sapphite hd4850, but for future upgrades, like the far future, ill upgrade to 2x hd4870 with a new psu and such.
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8. August 2008 @ 18:27 |
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Don't look at a midrange chipset for crossfire, you want a high end board like the GA-X48-DS4. Yes, it's more expensive, but if you can afford dual graphics, you can afford it, and it will make using dual graphics a much better experience.
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andreewww
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8. August 2008 @ 18:58 |
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wow, that is really expensive compared to the single gpu slot motherboards. is there a good crossfire board that is around $150? i dont have enough money to purchase everything right now, since im going to crossfire in the FUTURE. thanks for your help
also, if i some how do get that board, plus 2 hd4870's, what power supply do i get? like i know corsair is good, but how much watts would i need? im using a q6600 cpu and have a 650TX power supply now.
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8. August 2008 @ 19:01 |
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In short, no, they use half bandwidth chipsets aren't nearly as good.
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andreewww
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8. August 2008 @ 19:13 |
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i edited it above message. but this is what i put
also, if i some how do get that board, plus 2 hd4870's, what power supply do i get? like i know corsair is good, but how much watts would i need? im using a q6600 cpu and have a 650TX power supply now.
so would you suggest i just wait to get more money and then purchase this board. or buy the EP35 as a temporary board till i get more money? either way im going to use a hd4850 right now.
maybe ill crossfire with just 2 hd4850's. so i wont waste my hd4850. would there be a significant loss if i just hd4850's rather than 2 hd4870's? the 50's will be like around $330 while the 70's will be around $500.
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8. August 2008 @ 19:19 |
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Two 650s would run on a 650TX but you'd need two molex-PCIe adapters, which is a pain, and not recommended, you'd be best off getting a 750TX, or doing it the simple way, waiting until the HD4870X2 is released, buying of those and use your existing 650W PSU with a single slot motherboard.
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andreewww
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8. August 2008 @ 19:32 |
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so the 2xHD4870's that will be released will not need crossfire or anything? and the 650TX will handle it? wow. =] thats perfect. any news on when itll come on.
but is a EP35 gigabyte board work good with a 2xhd4870? and if i do simply get the single slot gpu, then im still left with the question, EP45 or EP35?
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8. August 2008 @ 19:39 |
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Should be here next week, but around $500 RRP. Be advised though, it's noisy, runs hot, and is VERY large.
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andreewww
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8. August 2008 @ 21:15 |
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how would i decrease the heat from it? like would i need to get a separate fan and such for it? or do i just increase the speed of the fan thats already on it?
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8. August 2008 @ 21:16 |
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A or B would work. Neither are especially simple, If you do A stick to a proper brand like Thermalright, not Arctic Cooling, their S1 rev 2 is fine enough but can be dodgy to install. If you fancy B, which works fine but is noisy, then you need to edit the catalyst profile.
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andreewww
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8. August 2008 @ 21:26 |
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8. August 2008 @ 21:29 |
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andreewww
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9. August 2008 @ 00:20 |
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how does this go against the GTX280? or would we have to wait for the release and benchmarks? maybe i should just get that instead? would you think the GTX260 would be more bang for your bucks?
and what should the temperatures be, idle and full load, for the gpu and cpu?
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9. August 2008 @ 06:41 |
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The HD4870 is better bang for your buck than the GTX260, and the HD4870X2 will be better bang for your buck than the GTX280, when it comes out.
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andreewww
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9. August 2008 @ 21:24 |
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10. August 2008 @ 06:01 |
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Yeah HIS are another decent brand, I have no problem recommending them either, just don't get their Turbo overclocked versions.
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andreewww
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10. August 2008 @ 14:12 |
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yea, i think ill get the 4870, but i read that sapphire is releasing the 4870 x2 on august 12.
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10. August 2008 @ 15:20 |
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Indeed, and it will rock your socks off. It is however very large, and won't fit in that many cases.
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10. August 2008 @ 15:36 |
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yea, i think im going to save some money and get the hd4870. hopefully prices will fall a little bit after the 4870x2 releases.
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10. August 2008 @ 15:45 |
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The HD4870 is still an admirable card:
Call of Duty 4: Absolute max 4xAA 8xAF 1920x1200: 70fps
Half Life 2: Episode Two: Absolute max 4xAA 16xAF 1920x1200: 80fps
Enemy Territory: Quake Wars: Absolute max 4xAA 16xAF 2560x1600: 65fps
Crysis: All settings 'High', 1920x1200: 27fps
Assassins Creed: Absolute max 4xAA 16xAF 2560x1600: 42fps
GRiD: Absolute max 4xAA 16xAF 1920x1200: 80fps
World in Conflict: Absolute max 4xAA 16xAF 1920x1200: 50fps
Rainbow Six Vegas 2: Absolute max no AA/AF 2560x1600: 50fps
Lost Planet: Colonies: Absolute max no AA, 16xAF 1920x1200: 40fps
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion: Absolute max 4xAA 16xAF 2560x1600: 65fps
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dragnandy
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10. August 2008 @ 16:10 |
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wow, all those on 1920X1200? my monitor is only 1650x1050. =P looks like ill be blazing on these games. i would be satisfied with all settings high on crysis. btw, whats AF?
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10. August 2008 @ 16:12 |
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27fps in Crysis is playable. Since that's 1920x1200, at 1680x1050 it should be pretty good. The game suddenly becomes a lot more demanding towards the end though, so if you get lag during the final boss scene or the few sections leading up to it perhaps drop shaders to medium.
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andreewww
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10. August 2008 @ 16:18 |
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dragnandy, seems like im on the same page as you. ill be getting the 4870 after the release of the x2 one. i would have waited for the 1gb version, but i hear thats a long ways out. im going to be playing on a 1920x1200 resolution, so maybe the 1gb would have helped. but ill settle for the 512mb and get it now.
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