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Playing Converted MKV files in BDP-S350 Player
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BillN96
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20. September 2008 @ 08:49 |
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First, thanks to all of you to all the helpful advice on the forum. Unfortunately I have run into an issue that I can not seem to find the solution for and I am asking for your help.
I have some MKV files that I want to convert to AVCHD so I can watch them on my BluRay player (Sony BDP-S350). I convert the MKV file using the tsmuxerGUI program (I make sure the video profile level is 4.1 and select "Create BluRay disc"). I then copy the BDMP and CERTIFICATE folders to a DVD+R DL using imgBurn (using UDF 2.5).
When I put the disc in my player it recognizes it and plays except the video looks like a split screen. The audio is perfect and the video is in sync, it is just this "spilt screen" issue. It is difficult to describe in words so I attached two photos. This has happened to me with two different MKV files so I am wondering if it is a setting issue.
Has anyone ever seen this issue or have successfully played converted MKV files on the Sony BDP-S350? If so, what settings did you use when you muxed it?
Thanks in advance for your help.
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MaddogBC
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20. September 2008 @ 13:34 |
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I have a bdp s500 and have sucessfully played some 1 gig episode files by running them through tsremux on 4.1, and it seemed to work at 5.1 as well. I burned them to a bd-re and I have the latest firmware upgrade. For some reason I haven't been able to get movies working yet, I just upgraded to ffdshow and plan another round of tests. good luck.
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bladetd
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4. October 2008 @ 10:21 |
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hi, i have a same player and the same problem, did you find a solution to fix this problem i need a help too
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MaddogBC
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5. October 2008 @ 14:27 |
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Yes I did, it's the same solution for the majority of folks who come here with .mkv problems. Most downloaded mkv's are encoded with PC playback in mind and are not in a blu ray compliant resolution. They need to be re-encoded with a proper resolution. check out the sticky at the top of this forum. I have managed to use ripbot264 with some success, takes a long time if you don't have a quad core. I wish more people would stay with native blu ray resolution. Good luck!
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bladetd
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7. October 2008 @ 09:22 |
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hi, I tesed yesterday the program but after the conversion i have a small file, thewn can you send me a screenshot with the parameter that you use to convert the file i apraciate a lot
Thx to all
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MaddogBC
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7. October 2008 @ 22:23 |
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try out this simple guide.
[url=http://www.bontragerphotography.com/psp/RipBot264.php][/url]
Experimentation is always best, start out with the standard 4.x blu ray standalone profile. Hope you have a fast comp! :)
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dublin579
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23. November 2008 @ 06:20 |
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Hi guys,
I'm having the EXACT same problem as the OP. I've tried the suggestions above re: ripbot etc but still have the exact same issue as per the screenshots in the original post. The weird thing is if I go to skip a chapter you can see the full image perfectly for a second, same if you pause in frame search! Anyone have any ideas?
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DirkDigg
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3. December 2008 @ 05:47 |
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I am also having the exact same problem with the Sony BDP-S350.
I've tried many different strategies from almost every MKV to BD guide on the internet and i get the same wierd split screen result everytime.
If anyone can figure out a solution to this please let me know, otherwise im gonna return the BDP-S350 and pick up a Samsung BD-P1500.
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BQSTUDIOS
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5. December 2008 @ 23:37 |
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Same here.unfortunately theres no solution as of yet. but i do know why this happens. its because of the aspect ratio. In order for the movie to play correctly on a sony DP-S350 the aspect ratio has to be 1280x720. problem is many movies arent. many are 1280x544. in which case will result in having a split screen like the pic above. Hope someone finds a solution soon.
ps. If u own a ps 3 there is a way around this problem. In TS muxer, instead of chooseing the "create blu-ray" button, choose "m2ts muxing".
This will fix similar aspect ratio problems in the ps3. Unfortunatley this option wont work with the sony bd-s350. sucks! thats why i keep tellin people the ps3 is hands down the best blu-ray player out there. it can play avchd's, m2ts, vob, avi, mpg, mpeg-4, wmv, plus stream media wirelessly or thru a flash drive or portable hard drive and of course on cd's and dvd'd. a stand alone blu-ray player just cant compare.
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dublin579
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6. December 2008 @ 05:14 |
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Thanks BQStudio, sad to hear. Is there a way of changing the aspect ratio of an mkv file before muxing?
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6. December 2008 @ 10:02 |
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Originally posted by BQSTUDIOS:
Same here.unfortunately theres no solution as of yet. but i do know why this happens. its because of the aspect ratio. In order for the movie to play correctly on a sony DP-S350 the aspect ratio has to be 1280x720. problem is many movies arent. many are 1280x544. in which case will result in having a split screen like the pic above. Hope someone finds a solution soon.
ps. If u own a ps 3 there is a way around this problem. In TS muxer, instead of chooseing the "create blu-ray" button, choose "m2ts muxing".
This will fix similar aspect ratio problems in the ps3. Unfortunatley this option wont work with the sony bd-s350. sucks! thats why i keep tellin people the ps3 is hands down the best blu-ray player out there. it can play avchd's, m2ts, vob, avi, mpg, mpeg-4, wmv, plus stream media wirelessly or thru a flash drive or portable hard drive and of course on cd's and dvd'd. a stand alone blu-ray player just cant compare.
Sure there is a solution. Add the extra lines of resolution (black widescreen bars) by recoding the video, with eith MeGUI/AviSynth or Ripbot264.
Here's a good link for what you need to do, there is a download that includes all of the apps and instructions needed.
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/639346
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BQSTUDIOS
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6. December 2008 @ 11:52 |
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Originally posted by odin24:
Originally posted by BQSTUDIOS:
Same here.unfortunately theres no solution as of yet. but i do know why this happens. its because of the aspect ratio. In order for the movie to play correctly on a sony DP-S350 the aspect ratio has to be 1280x720. problem is many movies arent. many are 1280x544. in which case will result in having a split screen like the pic above. Hope someone finds a solution soon.
ps. If u own a ps 3 there is a way around this problem. In TS muxer, instead of chooseing the "create blu-ray" button, choose "m2ts muxing".
This will fix similar aspect ratio problems in the ps3. Unfortunatley this option wont work with the sony bd-s350. sucks! thats why i keep tellin people the ps3 is hands down the best blu-ray player out there. it can play avchd's, m2ts, vob, avi, mpg, mpeg-4, wmv, plus stream media wirelessly or thru a flash drive or portable hard drive and of course on cd's and dvd'd. a stand alone blu-ray player just cant compare.
Sure there is a solution. Add the extra lines of resolution (black widescreen bars) by recoding the video, with eith MeGUI/AviSynth or Ripbot264.
Here's a good link for what you need to do, there is a download that includes all of the apps and instructions needed.
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/639346
thanks, for the info but , ive heard that takes a really long time. And after spending hours downloading a large mkv file, the last thing i want to do is spend even more hours recoding a video. thats why i love my ps3. No need for recoding. it takes just minutes in ts muxer to make a an avchd folder, or a m2ts file and they come out great.
But can u post a specific tutorial showing exactly how to do what u suggested. and any info on how long you think it will take. tahnks again
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6. December 2008 @ 12:37 |
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There's pretty detailed instructions in the download I mentioned, also a lot of instruction, tips, and other good information in the thread I linked.
A 720p recode could take up to 6 hours on a quad core, maybe 8 hours on a dual core. A 1080p might take 10-12 hours on a quad core.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 6. December 2008 @ 12:38
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BQSTUDIOS
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7. December 2008 @ 12:52 |
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Originally posted by odin24:
There's pretty detailed instructions in the download I mentioned, also a lot of instruction, tips, and other good information in the thread I linked.
A 720p recode could take up to 6 hours on a quad core, maybe 8 hours on a dual core. A 1080p might take 10-12 hours on a quad core.
well thanks for trying to help, but like you said, there's "a lot of instructions", but no specific tutorial on just changing the aspect ratio.
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7. December 2008 @ 13:28 |
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Originally posted by BQSTUDIOS:
Originally posted by odin24:
There's pretty detailed instructions in the download I mentioned, also a lot of instruction, tips, and other good information in the thread I linked.
A 720p recode could take up to 6 hours on a quad core, maybe 8 hours on a dual core. A 1080p might take 10-12 hours on a quad core.
well thanks for trying to help, but like you said, there's "a lot of instructions", but no specific tutorial on just changing the aspect ratio.
Dude, I'm not mommy or daddy... I'm not going to do everything for you. Do some reaserch and figure some things out for your self, a little trial and error, it's how the majority of us learned. I even pointed you in the right direction telling you everything you need and a good tutorial that comes with it. Do you need me to hold your hand as well. Even the thread has detailed instruction on how to resize.
Page 17 of the .pdf file in the download deals with resizing.
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BQSTUDIOS
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9. December 2008 @ 12:33 |
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jeeeeeeze. i Hope one day u get lost somehwere on the read, and ask someone where the highway is. and instead of them telling you exactly how to get there,(cause you really are lost) they just vaguley point you in the direction and tell, "good luck". now leave me alone. lol.
well anyone for anyone who's interested here's the supposed info we need to get this problem fixed. ummmm good luck. lol
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and i think theres more....... i give up
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2012
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10. December 2008 @ 12:16 |
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I'm pleased to report SUCCESS!!! This double image has been killing me and I was on the verge of selling the BDP-350...but this thread really saved me!
Following BQStudios heads up about the resolution and Odin24's suggestion of Ripbot264, I now have playable movies. Per the instructions, I installed Ripbot...that program is *really* user friendly. After adding the MKV file, I clicked the Video Properties, which brought up options for Picture Size. I used the pre-set option for 1280x720 (my original movie was 1280x533). It took 5 hours total for the encoding to complete.
The resulting MKV file was perfect! After a quick spin on TSMuxer and ImgBurn, I'm a happy camper. Further tries were just as successful. Ripbot basically gave me the black lines on top/bottom to make the proper resolution. Video was not stretched or distorted.
I read somewhere on AfterDawn that these are early days for HD and we are the pioneers. That is so true! It took time to get this right, but now it's awesome! Good luck to everyone and I hope your copies turn out flawless. THANKS!!
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dublin579
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10. December 2008 @ 13:54 |
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Originally posted by 2012:
I'm pleased to report SUCCESS!!! This double image has been killing me and I was on the verge of selling the BDP-350...but this thread really saved me!
Following BQStudios heads up about the resolution and Odin24's suggestion of Ripbot264, I now have playable movies. Per the instructions, I installed Ripbot...that program is *really* user friendly. After adding the MKV file, I clicked the Video Properties, which brought up options for Picture Size. I used the pre-set option for 1280x720 (my original movie was 1280x533). It took 5 hours total for the encoding to complete.
The resulting MKV file was perfect! After a quick spin on TSMuxer and ImgBurn, I'm a happy camper. Further tries were just as successful. Ripbot basically gave me the black lines on top/bottom to make the proper resolution. Video was not stretched or distorted.
I read somewhere on AfterDawn that these are early days for HD and we are the pioneers. That is so true! It took time to get this right, but now it's awesome! Good luck to everyone and I hope your copies turn out flawless. THANKS!!
Oh fantastic! That's great news :) Will give it a try now
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BQSTUDIOS
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11. December 2008 @ 12:07 |
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Originally posted by 2012:
I'm pleased to report SUCCESS!!! This double image has been killing me and I was on the verge of selling the BDP-350...but this thread really saved me!
Following BQStudios heads up about the resolution and Odin24's suggestion of Ripbot264, I now have playable movies. Per the instructions, I installed Ripbot...that program is *really* user friendly. After adding the MKV file, I clicked the Video Properties, which brought up options for Picture Size. I used the pre-set option for 1280x720 (my original movie was 1280x533). It took 5 hours total for the encoding to complete.
The resulting MKV file was perfect! After a quick spin on TSMuxer and ImgBurn, I'm a happy camper. Further tries were just as successful. Ripbot basically gave me the black lines on top/bottom to make the proper resolution. Video was not stretched or distorted.
I read somewhere on AfterDawn that these are early days for HD and we are the pioneers. That is so true! It took time to get this right, but now it's awesome! Good luck to everyone and I hope your copies turn out flawless. THANKS!!
great news. i will give that a try myself. glad i was able to help somewhat, and now you helped me out , so thats really cool. 1
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15. December 2008 @ 10:14 |
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If this is on another thread...let me know! Now that I've licked the double-image problem, I'm hoping to find the best quality video settings on Ripbot. I've been using the default settings and video quality seems close to the original, but not 100% exact and I'm losing alittle on the file size.
I know that's an easy fix on the quality settings...was hoping someone had cracked it! If I find in the next few days I'll post. THANKS!!
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andrew_cz
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15. December 2008 @ 16:02 |
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Looking forward to your results and how you did it.
Thanks.
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andrew_cz
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15. December 2008 @ 16:06 |
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Originally posted by 2012:
I'm pleased to report SUCCESS!!! This double image has been killing me and I was on the verge of selling the BDP-350...but this thread really saved me!
Following BQStudios heads up about the resolution and Odin24's suggestion of Ripbot264, I now have playable movies. Per the instructions, I installed Ripbot...that program is *really* user friendly. After adding the MKV file, I clicked the Video Properties, which brought up options for Picture Size. I used the pre-set option for 1280x720 (my original movie was 1280x533). It took 5 hours total for the encoding to complete.
The resulting MKV file was perfect! After a quick spin on TSMuxer and ImgBurn, I'm a happy camper. Further tries were just as successful. Ripbot basically gave me the black lines on top/bottom to make the proper resolution. Video was not stretched or distorted.
I read somewhere on AfterDawn that these are early days for HD and we are the pioneers. That is so true! It took time to get this right, but now it's awesome! Good luck to everyone and I hope your copies turn out flawless. THANKS!!
It would be very kind of you if you could, in short form, write a simple guide on the steps you took in order to convert a downloaded .mkv into a dvd playable on a blu-ray standalone, such as the Sony BDP-S350.
Thanks m8.
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No worries! I'm encoding again tonight, so will post tomorrow with some quick & solid steps to follow. THANKS!
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Hope this helps! These are the steps I use to take an MKV file and make it playable on my BDP-350 using DVD-R's. I'd love some feedback if someone knows how to make things easier or higher quality!
1) Try a sample of your MKV file using steps 3 thru 6 first. That way you know if you even have the double image problem. If everything works you're set! If you do have the double image, this works for me.
2) Using Ripbot264 add the top/bottom black bars to provide the BDP-350 with the proper resolution needed.
Open Ripbot264 -> Add your file -> By default the video mode is setup for *I think* CQ 22, I change that to 18 as it's higher quality...I'm not concerned with the file size trade off -> Click Properties (on the left side) -> Under Resize I set it for 1280x720 (assuming I'm working w/a 720p film). -> Make sure Save As is set to MKV -> Click START!
It takes me roughly 6 or 7 hours for encoding in Ripbot, so I let it run overnight.
3) Using mkvmerge GUI (part of the mkvtoolnix package) I split the file into roughly 3GB chunks. You could bypass this step if you wanted to use a single double-density DVD to burn your movie on...but I have tons of blank DVD-R's so it's the best step for me.
Open mkvmerge GUI -> Add the file -> Click the Global Tab -> Check Enable Splitting -> Use after size 3000M -> Click Start Muxing
4) Using tsMuxeR I prepare each smaller MKV chunk for Blu Ray burning.
Open tsMuxeR -> Add the File -> Click the Create Blu Ray Disc button -> Click Start Muxing
5) Using imgburn I burn the file to a DVD-R. The steps for this part have to be configured just right...the below link has all the steps:
http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/...-ray_page_2.cfm
6) Put that DVD-R in your BDP-350 and grab a cold drink! You should be set.
Hope this helps! I'm working with a new problem now...black screen with audio and no video. I have a few fixes, but am trying to refine that now. Let me know if you have any questions or suggestions on how to help make this faster/easier/cheaper! I'd love to know if 2-Pass mode in Ripbot has any advantages. THANKS!
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andrew_cz
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18. December 2008 @ 08:35 |
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Thanks for the help 2010:
The preset for 720p solution is great. I have the same BluRay player as you so I tried my first AVCHD encode with that enabled. Worked perfectly. I never had the double image problem because I never encoded to Bluray/AVCHD before. Using RipBot was my 1st time and I'm glad I did some research on how to do it first. Your response helped me avoid finding it out the hard way.
As for the steps you just outlined...I think it was step#4, splitting the files to 3GB. Why? I just don't see the point, unless you're trying to get rid of too many blank dvd's. The resulting mkv or bluray is much less than 4GB already (source .mkv was 4.4GB...after RipBot, it was about 2.2GB, and after tsmuxer it was still about 2.2GB). By the way, RipBot on my pc takes only about 1.5-2hrs but that's probably because I have a Q6600 and RAID-0.
My point is, I'm happy to have a working AVCHD disc playable on my Sony by simply:
1) Re-encode my original .mkv to 720p using the preset in RipBot.
2) Use tsmuxer
3) Use ImgBurn or Nero to burn on a blank DVD
It's much simpler this way and quality is excellent. Of course, I've only done 1 movie using this method (doing a 2nd one now in the background) and I'm confident this'll work fine for future attempts. I've yet to do a 1080p but unfortunately too many movies are being released as 720p. I am getting a 1080p next so I'll be using the 1080p preset in RipBot for that.
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