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9. August 2007 @ 07:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
From what I've heard though, they're 680i motherboard still isn't exactly perfect...



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Which of my plasmas are you refering to? I will try and find the recommended graphics card - 7600GT. Thanx
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Originally posted by sammorris:
From what I've heard though, they're 680i motherboard still isn't exactly perfect...
i think they have IDE problems

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Ah right, well, still not great for anybody who doesn't use a serial ATA optical drive then.



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Ok. Me and my dad want to build a computer. And i need to decide which parts we should get. I don't really have a budget right now. I looked in WikiBooks and found out which basic parts i need to build a computer:

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Power Supply/PSU ? power supply unit, converts outlet power, which is alternating current (AC), to direct current (DC), which is what the internal components require, as well as providing appropriate voltages and currents for the various internal components.

Motherboard/mainboard ? As the name indicates, this is the electronic centerpiece of the computer, everything else connects to the motherboard.

Processor/CPU ? central processing unit, the "brain" of the computer, most actual computation takes place here.

RAM ? random access memory, the "short-term memory" of a computer, used by the CPU to store program instructions and data upon which it is currently operating. Data in RAM is lost when the computer is powered off, thus necessitating a hard drive.

Hard Drive/Hard Disk ? the "long-term memory" of the computer, used for persistent storage ? i.e. the things stored on it remain even when the computer is powered down. The operating system, and all your programs and data are stored here.

Optical Drive ? device for reading/writing optical disks. May read CDs, DVDs, or other optical media, depending on the type. It is essential for installing many operating systems and programs. It may be able to write some of these discs, as well. Some people like to have two such drives for copying disks.

Video Card/Graphics Card/GPU ? does processing relating to video output. Some motherboards have an "onboard" GPU built in so you don?t need (but may add) a separate video card. Otherwise, you will need a video card. These plug into a slot on the motherboard and provide a place to connect a monitor to your computer.

I decided out which parts i wanted to get for my computer:

PSU - I don't know if it really matters what PSU i get, but if i end up overclocking it, i'll probably want to get a cheap, big one.

Motherboard - I don't know if it matters what Motherboard i get. Are they all the same? Which one will be best with my computer?

CPU - Once i found out that the Intel Core 2 Duo was clocked at 2 GHz, i thought it was lame. I mean, my PS3 has a better processor! So that's why i want my processor to be stronger (or atleast as strong) then/as the Cell Broadband Engine. Is there a processor stronger then the CBE? (that means a clock rate higher then 3.2 GHz)

RAM - RAM means how much programs i can have running at one time, right? well i want something that is 2 gig. lol

HDD - I want an HDD enough to store all my crap, something cheap and atleast more than 160 GB.

Optical drive- Oh, now this is cool. I want a drive that can read and write CDs, DVDs, and Blurays.

GPU - Just like the CPU, this is something hard to decide which. I don't know which to get, ATI or Nvidia? If i get Nvidia, should i wait for the Geforce 9 series or get the best of the Geforce 8 series?

If you need anymore details, tell me.


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OmriSama,
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PSU - I don't know if it really matters what PSU i get, but if i end up overclocking it, i'll probably want to get a cheap, big one.

Motherboard - I don't know if it matters what Motherboard i get. Are they all the same? Which one will be best with my computer?

CPU - Once i found out that the Intel Core 2 Duo was clocked at 2 GHz, i thought it was lame. I mean, my PS3 has a better processor! So that's why i want my processor to be stronger (or atleast as strong) then/as the Cell Broadband Engine. Is there a processor stronger then the CBE? (that means a clock rate higher then 3.2 GHz)

RAM - RAM means how much programs i can have running at one time, right? well i want something that is 2 gig. lol

HDD - I want an HDD enough to store all my crap, something cheap and atleast more than 160 GB.

Optical drive- Oh, now this is cool. I want a drive that can read and write CDs, DVDs, and Blurays.

GPU - Just like the CPU, this is something hard to decide which. I don't know which to get, ATI or Nvidia? If i get Nvidia, should i wait for the Geforce 9 series or get the best of the Geforce 8 series?

I'll answer these in the order you asked
PSU: Today you will need at least a 500 watt with 70% efficiency or better! You can find decent quality ones for $79-99!

Motherboard: Asus, Biostar, GigaByte and Evga all make decent quality boards in both AM2 and socket 775. Lower prices tend to mean less features. You would want one that has Sata and a PCIe 16x slot for your video card! Decent quality ones can be had from about $99-150!

CPU: Processor speed means nothing these days. My Intel E4300 Core 2 Duo at a stock 1.8GHz could stomp on the processor in your PS3. At my present 3.2GHz overclock the one in the pS3 would be a distant memory! Price range $144-190 depending on model!

RAM: Decent quality DDR2800/PC6400 can be had for around $100-130 for 2x1GB Dual Channel. Corsair, GSkill, OCZ are some of the better brands!

Hard Drive: Sata 3.0 is the only way to go these days. A 160GB Seagate will run you about $60. A 230GB about $80!

Optical drive: For now I wouldn't recommend Blueray. First they are way too expensive and with all the problem it's not at all certain that it's going to be around for too long. You can get a nice Sony Optiarc NEC 18x DVD burner for about $30

GPU: Unless you are a serious gamer anything above a 7600GT should do fine! $99-129

You said the "magic" word before, Cheap! When it comes to PSUs, memory, CPU Coolers and to a degree everything else, cheap doesn't get it! You can find 500 watt PSUs for as little as $29. Using one will wind up costing you more money in the end. Nothing I can think of will ruin a good computer faster, especially if you plan to overclock! There is a huge difference to buying something quality at a good price and buying something cheap.

Take a look at www.newegg.com and look over all the things you want to buy. make a list and come back to us and we will help you with your choices. With the right components, you can put together quite a good system for well under $1000!

Best Regards and Good Luck,
theone :>}



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12. August 2007 @ 00:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by theonejrs:
OmriSama,
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PSU - I don't know if it really matters what PSU i get, but if i end up overclocking it, i'll probably want to get a cheap, big one.

Motherboard - I don't know if it matters what Motherboard i get. Are they all the same? Which one will be best with my computer?

CPU - Once i found out that the Intel Core 2 Duo was clocked at 2 GHz, i thought it was lame. I mean, my PS3 has a better processor! So that's why i want my processor to be stronger (or atleast as strong) then/as the Cell Broadband Engine. Is there a processor stronger then the CBE? (that means a clock rate higher then 3.2 GHz)

RAM - RAM means how much programs i can have running at one time, right? well i want something that is 2 gig. lol

HDD - I want an HDD enough to store all my crap, something cheap and atleast more than 160 GB.

Optical drive- Oh, now this is cool. I want a drive that can read and write CDs, DVDs, and Blurays.

GPU - Just like the CPU, this is something hard to decide which. I don't know which to get, ATI or Nvidia? If i get Nvidia, should i wait for the Geforce 9 series or get the best of the Geforce 8 series?

I'll answer these in the order you asked
PSU: Today you will need at least a 500 watt with 70% efficiency or better! You can find decent quality ones for $79-99!

Motherboard: Asus, Biostar, GigaByte and Evga all make decent quality boards in both AM2 and socket 775. Lower prices tend to mean less features. You would want one that has Sata and a PCIe 16x slot for your video card! Decent quality ones can be had from about $99-150!

CPU: Processor speed means nothing these days. My Intel E4300 Core 2 Duo at a stock 1.8GHz could stomp on the processor in your PS3. At my present 3.2GHz overclock the one in the pS3 would be a distant memory! Price range $144-190 depending on model!

RAM: Decent quality DDR2800/PC6400 can be had for around $100-130 for 2x1GB Dual Channel. Corsair, GSkill, OCZ are some of the better brands!

Hard Drive: Sata 3.0 is the only way to go these days. A 160GB Seagate will run you about $60. A 230GB about $80!

Optical drive: For now I wouldn't recommend Blueray. First they are way too expensive and with all the problem it's not at all certain that it's going to be around for too long. You can get a nice Sony Optiarc NEC 18x DVD burner for about $30

GPU: Unless you are a serious gamer anything above a 7600GT should do fine! $99-129

You said the "magic" word before, Cheap! When it comes to PSUs, memory, CPU Coolers and to a degree everything else, cheap doesn't get it! You can find 500 watt PSUs for as little as $29. Using one will wind up costing you more money in the end. Nothing I can think of will ruin a good computer faster, especially if you plan to overclock! There is a huge difference to buying something quality at a good price and buying something cheap.

Take a look at www.newegg.com and look over all the things you want to buy. make a list and come back to us and we will help you with your choices. With the right components, you can put together quite a good system for well under $1000!

Best Regards and Good Luck,
theone :>}
TYs. But can you believe i want high end components for a gaming PC? lol. I mean, i want to be sure that my computer can run computer games coming out in atleast the next 4 years. Not like any dopey computer that lasts for 1-2 years in the gaming area. So i want a good processor and something that can run Crysis.

My current laptop sucks. The GPU dosen't even have a pixel shader (it's an Intel GPU)


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12. August 2007 @ 01:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
PSU: Cheap is not the answer. Make sure you get a quality power supply, then build on the budget that's left. DO NOT SKIMP ON THE POWER SUPPLY. I'd recommend a Corsair HX 520W.
Motherboard: It depends which type of processor you use, a recommended combination is the Core 2 Duo and GA-965P-DS3.
Note: A Core 2 Duo overclocked to 3Ghz (very easily done) would beat ALL SEVEN 3.2GHZ CORES of a PS3. The PS3 is nowhere near as powerful as you think it is.
RAM: 2x1GB Corsair PC6400 - it's pretty much what everybody goes for now.
Hard drive: Serial ATA, typically 320GB or 500GB, they're relatively inexpensive at those sizes now.
Optical Drive: DVD Writer. Bluray will never get used and it costs too much. I recommend NEC (now Sony Optiarc NEC)
Graphics card: I agree with theone, a 7600GT is the standard starting point, if you want better, then we can always up it.


Actually, you laptop does have a Pixel shader or it wouldn't be able to shade any pixels! It'll be Pixel shader 1.0 though, the most basic form. I do agree on it sucking though!

You mentioned the magic word, Crysis.
Based on that,
Processor: Core 2 Duo E6750
Graphics card: Geforce 8800GTS or 8800GTX, depending on budget
Power supply: Corsair HX 620W
Other components as before

As for the case, personal preference, but pick something that has (or can have) lots of 120mm fans, for good cooling.

You can also play around with overclocking with a Core 2 Duo, and for that I'd recommend an aftermarket cooler, something like an Arctic Freezer 7 Pro.

Here are some links at newegg to get you started.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...15029&Tpk=E6750
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128012
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145034
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150173
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...=Corsair%2b620W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827152079
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16821104104
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148136
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...eezer%2b7%2bPro
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100007
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146038


This lot comes to $1232, plus a bit for delivery.
There are $100 of rebates offered here, so if you send off for those, it effectively becomes $1132, and that's a very powerful PC there, certainly capable of playing Crysis.

Do you need peripherals? (Monitor, keyboard, mouse etc.)




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Originally posted by sammorris:
PSU: Cheap is not the answer. Make sure you get a quality power supply, then build on the budget that's left. DO NOT SKIMP ON THE POWER SUPPLY. I'd recommend a Corsair HX 520W.
Motherboard: It depends which type of processor you use, a recommended combination is the Core 2 Duo and GA-965P-DS3.
Note: A Core 2 Duo overclocked to 3Ghz (very easily done) would beat ALL SEVEN 3.2GHZ CORES of a PS3. The PS3 is nowhere near as powerful as you think it is.
RAM: 2x1GB Corsair PC6400 - it's pretty much what everybody goes for now.
Hard drive: Serial ATA, typically 320GB or 500GB, they're relatively inexpensive at those sizes now.
Optical Drive: DVD Writer. Bluray will never get used and it costs too much. I recommend NEC (now Sony Optiarc NEC)
Graphics card: I agree with theone, a 7600GT is the standard starting point, if you want better, then we can always up it.


Actually, you laptop does have a Pixel shader or it wouldn't be able to shade any pixels! It'll be Pixel shader 1.0 though, the most basic form. I do agree on it sucking though!

You mentioned the magic word, Crysis.
Based on that,
Processor: Core 2 Duo E6750
Graphics card: Geforce 8800GTS or 8800GTX, depending on budget
Power supply: Corsair HX 620W
Other components as before

As for the case, personal preference, but pick something that has (or can have) lots of 120mm fans, for good cooling.

You can also play around with overclocking with a Core 2 Duo, and for that I'd recommend an aftermarket cooler, something like an Arctic Freezer 7 Pro.

Here are some links at newegg to get you started.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...15029&Tpk=E6750
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128012
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145034
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150173
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...=Corsair%2b620W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827152079
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16821104104
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148136
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...eezer%2b7%2bPro
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100007
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146038


This lot comes to $1232, plus a bit for delivery.
There are $100 of rebates offered here, so if you send off for those, it effectively becomes $1132, and that's a very powerful PC there, certainly capable of playing Crysis.

Do you need peripherals? (Monitor, keyboard, mouse etc.)
I already have a Keyboard and Mice. Monitor should be a cakewalk to get.

So, you're saying that the Intel Core 2 Duo is much better then the Cell Broadband Engine when OverClocked? What about when not OverClocked?


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12. August 2007 @ 02:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well put it this way.
The Cell CPU has 7 cores clocked at 3.2Ghz. Currently PS3 games use anything between 1 and 3 of them.
Now, a Core 2 Duo has 2 cores, and in the example I gave you they're clocked at 2.66Ghz.
The cell's cores are based on the IBM powerPC standard, which means that a 1.8Ghz core 2 core would be about as powerful as two of them. So, an entire core 2 Duo CPU clocked at 1.8Ghz would be about as good as 4 of them, and thus at 2.66Ghz, that's about 6.
It doesn't work quite like that, but that's essentially it, a Core 2 Duo is MUCH better than the Cell.



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Ok. So the Core 2 Duo is much better. I'll take it to account. I just thought that clock rate does matter... well, is 2.66Ghz alot? also, my friends have a 3.0Ghz Intel Processor and it's blazing!
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To my old computer, there are my computers specs:

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Intel(R) Graphics Media Accelerator Driver for Mobile Report


Report Date: 08/12/2007
Report Time[hr:mm:ss]: 13:15:00
Driver Version: 6.14.10.4308
Operating System: Windows XP* Home Edition, Service Pack 2 (5.1.2600)
Default Language: English
DirectX* Version: 9.0
Physical Memory: 246 MB
Minimum Graphics Memory: 8 MB
Maximum Graphics Memory: 128 MB
Graphics Memory in Use: 9 MB
Processor: x86 family 6 Model 13 Stepping 8
Processor Speed: 1596 MHZ
Vendor ID: 8086
Device ID: 2592
Device Revision: 04


* Accelerator Information *

Accelerator in Use: Mobile Intel(R) 915GM/GMS,910GML Express Chipset Family
Video BIOS: 1225
Current Graphics Mode: 1024 by 768 True Color (60 Hz)



* Devices Connected to the Graphics Accelerator *


Active Notebook Displays: 1


* Notebook *

Monitor Name: Plug and Play Monitor
Display Type: Digital
Gamma Value: 3.54
DDC2 Protocol: Supported
Maximum Image Size: Horizontal: Not Available
Vertical: Not Available
Monitor Supported Modes:
640 by 480 (60 Hz)
800 by 600 (60 Hz)
1024 by 768 (60 Hz)
Display Power Management Support:
Standby Mode: Supported
Suspend Mode: Supported
Active Off Mode: Supported

* Other names and brands are the property of their respective owners.
It sucks i know.

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12. August 2007 @ 04:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It's probably a Pentium4 or a Pentium D. A core 2 Duo will kick it's butt.

A Pentium D (Dual core Pentium 4) at 3.2Ghz is about equal to a Core 2 Duo at 1.8Ghz.



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Originally posted by OmriSama:
Ok. So the Core 2 Duo is much better. I'll take it to account. I just thought that clock rate does matter... well, is 2.66Ghz alot? also, my friends have a 3.0Ghz Intel Processor and it's blazing!
If you get a better heatsink for the CPU (i like zalman) you can get them from 1.8GHz to 3GHz or more.

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Ok. I've taken a look at the hardware you gave me (to build the computer) and i like everything i saw there. However, i have a few concerns about the items:

GPU - Yes, i know, it looks great and all, but should i wait for GeForce series 9 or get a Geforce series 8 GPU?

Optical Drive - The first drive i saw was a good drive and the standard for me, it can burn and read most types of CDs and DVDs. However, the users (in the reviews) gave it a low score, saying that it stops working after a while. The Mitsumi drive also looks really good with a built in floppy, but i don't what kind of DVDs and CDs it burns. Plus, it's a USB drive. I heard USB things suck.

CPU - I looked some more in Wikipedia and found that there are a few processors in the Core 2 series. The Quad and Extreme. Should i get the Quad or Extreme or Duo?

HDD - I'm not sure which type of HDD i should get. SATA? IDE? which would work best with my setup?

Thanks.



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12. August 2007 @ 04:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by OmriSama:
Ok. I've taken a look at the hardware you gave me (to build the computer) and i like everything i saw there. However, i have a few concerns about the items:

GPU - Yes, i know, it looks great and all, but should i wait for GeForce series 9 or get a Geforce series 8 GPU?

Optical Drive - The first drive i saw was a good drive and the standard for me, it can burn and read most types of CDs and DVDs. However, the users (in the reviews) gave it a low score, saying that it stops working after a while. The Mitsumi drive also looks really good with a built in floppy, but i don't what kind of DVDs and CDs it burns. Plus, it's a USB drive. I heard USB things suck.

CPU - I looked some more in Wikipedia and found that there are a few processors in the Core 2 series. The Quad and Extreme. Should i get the Quad or Extreme or Duo?

HDD - I'm not sure which type of HDD i should get. SATA? IDE? which would work best with my setup?

Thanks.
GPU - If you want direct x 10 support then I think you need a card in the 8000

Optical Drive - look into some other brands, i always use the cheap lg drives, and i have never had a problem

CPU - You really dont need quad or extreme (or quad extreme) right now. Core 2 Duo will be fine.

HDD - SATA (its new and faster)

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GPU - the 9 series won't be out for a long time, and will be expensive. The 8 series is plenty.
The mitsumi isn't a DVD/CD drive, it's just a floppy drive with a USB memory card reader.
CPU - go with the duo
HDD - S-ATA.



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Originally posted by mikeh0303:
Originally posted by OmriSama:
Ok. I've taken a look at the hardware you gave me (to build the computer) and i like everything i saw there. However, i have a few concerns about the items:

GPU - Yes, i know, it looks great and all, but should i wait for GeForce series 9 or get a Geforce series 8 GPU?

Optical Drive - The first drive i saw was a good drive and the standard for me, it can burn and read most types of CDs and DVDs. However, the users (in the reviews) gave it a low score, saying that it stops working after a while. The Mitsumi drive also looks really good with a built in floppy, but i don't what kind of DVDs and CDs it burns. Plus, it's a USB drive. I heard USB things suck.

CPU - I looked some more in Wikipedia and found that there are a few processors in the Core 2 series. The Quad and Extreme. Should i get the Quad or Extreme or Duo?

HDD - I'm not sure which type of HDD i should get. SATA? IDE? which would work best with my setup?

Thanks.
GPU - If you want direct x 10 support then I think you need a card in the 8000

Optical Drive - look into some other brands, i always use the cheap lg drives, and i have never had a problem

CPU - You really dont need quad or extreme (or quad extreme) right now. Core 2 Duo will be fine.

HDD - SATA (its new and faster)
Actually, the info for that GPU said it DOES support DX10.


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Originally posted by OmriSama:
Actually, the info for that GPU said it DOES support DX10.
if its in the 8000s it supports dr x 10, but the 8800 will be the best for now.

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The 8300GS supports directx10, but that's pointless since it's such a slow card it won't be able to play any directx10 games.



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sammorris,
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A Pentium D (Dual core Pentium 4) at 3.2Ghz is about equal to a Core 2 Duo at 1.8Ghz.

Only if the 3.2 D-940 is overclocked to 3.6 or 3.7! Even up the 1.8 C2D kicks the 3.2 D-940's butt! If you overclock the 1.8 C2D to 3.2 like mine is, and OC the D-940 to 3.7, it isn't even close! I got both of them here right now! He He!!

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Indeed!



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Ok how can i find if my old laptop (my current main computer) has a Pixel Shader? I don't think it has because when i go to the Elder Scrolls morrowind pre-game menu, i can set up graphics options. Like which grpahics card i use and resolution. It also has a 'Pixel Shading' option. But the option is always off and never on. Why? cause my PC dosen't have Pixel Shader!

That's why i want to overclock my GPU so i could make it stronger.

Also, what your saying is that Intel C2D kicks the CBE's butt in everyway possible and that it's way to go?


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sammorris,
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Indeed!

Yup! At 3.84 on the D-940 it does about 20,000 MIPS. At 3.2 with the E4300, it's right at 30,000. About 33% faster!

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Since when is 30,000 33% faster than 20,000?

Your maths is terrible Russ!

OmriSama, before you think you know it all, you probably do have a pixel shader, just the original spec, and not PS2.0 or SM3.0.



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Originally posted by sammorris:
Since when is 30,000 33% faster than 20,000?

Your maths is terrible Russ!

OmriSama, before you think you know it all, you probably do have a pixel shader, just the original spec, and not PS2.0 or SM3.0.
I don't think i know it all... how can i get a better pixel shader?


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