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karen2003
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2. December 2008 @ 02:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi, all. A few days ago I burned my first DL disc thanks to help from some of you. :-) Now I have another question.

I have a disc that I am trying to back up that is very large -- when I made the .iso in Imgburn it took up 99% of available DL disc space. It would still burn, but it makes me uneasy to go that far "out" to the edges of both sides of the disc. In looking at the files, I noticed there were several I didn't need, like French audio. It occurred to me that I could take the original files (which AnyDVD copied to my hard drive), have Shrink encode the UNCOMPRESSED files but without the ones I didn't need (like the French audio), and THEN have Imgburn create an .iso file. (I didn't see any way in Imgburn to delete some of the files before creation of the .iso file. Maybe I missed it?)

Well, I just tried this and it worked fine (although the layer break I could choose this time was only in the "good" range instead of "very good" -- not too worried about that). I now have a 2nd .iso file, this one without the extra files I didn't need. I was just about to burn it but I am wondering, has anyone done this? I can't think of any reason it wouldn't work -- I am just being cautious.

Maybe it seems silly to remove files on a DL disc since there is so much room on it -- I am just concerned about the 99% usage. (The first DL disc I burned was 90%.)

Hope all this makes sense! Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks!

-Karen in New Hampshire

Karen H.--Dell Optiplex GX240, P4 1.50ghz, 256mb RAM (yeah, I need more), Windows XP Pro w/SP1, 80gb c: drive (replaced the 20gb c: that crashed), 126gb i: drive, 124gb j: drive, 500gb external hard drive partitioned into k: and l: drives, Sony DDU1621/C1 DVD-ROM to rip/encode, Sony DRX-530UL to burn, new Sony DRX-840U to burn DL discs ... need a new computer to go with it!!
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2. December 2008 @ 03:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You could use dvd shrnk to remove all the files you don't want, and then use dvd shrnk to create a dvd-9 compliant iso file. That may help you out some.

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2. December 2008 @ 12:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I burn DL's on a semi regular basis and I too remove unwanted languages to reduce burning time as well as avoid the edge. I run mine through Nero recode (I believe it was written by the same author of shrink) and can select which audio and subtitles I want. Just set it to DVD9 and hit burn. I use any DVD with VOBBlanker to get rid of the warnings, credits, previews, trailers, & extra audio if needed too. I can usually get the end result small enough to keep 90% resolution. But in short, If I understand you correctly - Yes it should work.
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2. December 2008 @ 13:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yes it should work fine burning to the edge.cutting out the extras you don't want. what is the most important is to use good media like Verbatim DVD+R DL which is the best burning at 2.4x to 4x max. another option to consider is to use DVD Rebulider to encode (which will give you almost perfect picture quality on a dvd-5)instead of dvd shrink and burning to a dvd-9. saves alot of money also a dvd-9 cost 1.70 or more compared to a dvd-5 costing 25 cents each




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2. December 2008 @ 15:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by travalon:
I burn DL's on a semi regular basis and I too remove unwanted languages to reduce burning time as well as avoid the edge. I run mine through Nero recode (I believe it was written by the same author of shrink) and can select which audio and subtitles I want. Just set it to DVD9 and hit burn. I use any DVD with VOBBlanker to get rid of the warnings, credits, previews, trailers, & extra audio if needed too. I can usually get the end result small enough to keep 90% resolution. But in short, If I understand you correctly - Yes it should work.

What does "90% resolution" mean? 648 X 432 vs. 720 X 480?

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2. December 2008 @ 16:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by MysticE:
Originally posted by travalon:
...I use any DVD with VOBBlanker to get rid of the warnings, credits, previews, trailers, & extra audio if needed too. I can usually get the end result small enough to keep 90% resolution. But in short, If I understand you correctly - Yes it should work.

What does "90% resolution" mean? 648 X 432 vs. 720 X 480?

Bad boy, bad boy travalon! You get a demerit point for incorrect usage of terminology! Principal Mystic will be spanking you now :)! Promise it will never happen again...


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2. December 2008 @ 18:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I think he means 90% compression, or a 10% loss in quality.
Me thinks cyprusrom got spanked one too many times by the penguins in school.


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2. December 2008 @ 18:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
LOL, I'd say not enough, I like spanking!
Now,how was it again, compressed by 10%, 90% quality?:)


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3. December 2008 @ 01:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sorry, I wasn't clear about the percentages in my original post (well, *I* knew what I meant, lol). There is NO compression in the .iso files -- not 99%, not 90%. The percentages referred to how much of the DL disc space would be taken up with the burn (i.e., the DL disc capacity? not sure of the terminology here). With ALL the files on the original disc (including ones I didn't need), it was at 99% capacity on this disc; with the first disc I burned, it was 90% capacity so "burning out to the edges" wasn't an issue. With 99% capacity, it seems like it is, which is why I wanted to get rid of some of the files I didn't need (like an audio language I don't speak).

Not sure how to have Shrink create a DVD-9 compliant file with a correct layer break? When I had Shrink encode UNCOMPRESSED files for my first DL burn, Imgburn gave me the message it wasn't compliant -- the layer break wasn't there (I think). Cyprusrom suggested I have Imgburn create the .iso file, which I did and it burned and played fine. (Thanks again!) I've been using Shrink for years but always on DVD-9's that I am shrinking to fit on regular, single-sided discs. Finally got a new DL burner so am trying out DL burning now.

Sorry I wasn't clear in the original post!

thanks,
Karen in New Hampshire

Karen H.--Dell Optiplex GX240, P4 1.50ghz, 256mb RAM (yeah, I need more), Windows XP Pro w/SP1, 80gb c: drive (replaced the 20gb c: that crashed), 126gb i: drive, 124gb j: drive, 500gb external hard drive partitioned into k: and l: drives, Sony DDU1621/C1 DVD-ROM to rip/encode, Sony DRX-530UL to burn, new Sony DRX-840U to burn DL discs ... need a new computer to go with it!!
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3. December 2008 @ 02:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@karen,
Your first post was more than clear enough. We just got off track, sometimes people take the time to be pedantic :)...

I don't know if AnyDVD has an option to remove the layer break, but in DVD Shrink's settings there is an option for that. If you have that checked, then your resulting ISO has no layer break, that's why ImgBurn will give that message.

You can uncheck that, and keep the original layer break and see how it works.




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This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 3. December 2008 @ 03:17

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karen2003
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3. December 2008 @ 07:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
lol, I am a college prof, I know all about being pedantic! :-)

Hadn't noticed those settings in Shrink -- will keep playing around with the program. (Am really enjoying Imgburn, though!)

Thanks!

-Karen

Karen H.--Dell Optiplex GX240, P4 1.50ghz, 256mb RAM (yeah, I need more), Windows XP Pro w/SP1, 80gb c: drive (replaced the 20gb c: that crashed), 126gb i: drive, 124gb j: drive, 500gb external hard drive partitioned into k: and l: drives, Sony DDU1621/C1 DVD-ROM to rip/encode, Sony DRX-530UL to burn, new Sony DRX-840U to burn DL discs ... need a new computer to go with it!!
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