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Trouble Burning a Music DVD (Concert DVD)
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wrp68
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21. February 2004 @ 13:20 |
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Both times that I have tried to burn a live concert DVD. I have run into trouble. The DVD is not that large of a DVD (around 7.2 GB) compared to some of the larger movies (8.3 GB) I have burned. I use DVD Decrypter and usually write with Pinnacle Instant Copy. These two programs have worked like charms for me since I have began burning, but both times that I tried to burn a concert DVD it comes up that it is too big for the disc. The other program that I use on occasion (DVD Shrink) tells me the same thing. My conclusion to this problem is that there is alot more audio with these types of DVD's and they don't shrink and is causing the problem. The first concert DVD I wrote I had to take the audio out of the Menu screens and then it would write. The one I am writing now isn't as simple. Now on the main menu section there is three types of audio to select (LPCM 2 Ch., AC3 6 Ch. and DTS 6 Ch.) Does anyone have any suggestions on what I can do to write this disc without losing the audio? Keep in mind that I have a 5.1 surround sound system and that the 2 channel doesn't interest me.
I have already used DVD Shrink to shrink this once and took out the LPCM but before writing the DVD I checked it and on the main concert part there was no audio running on the my computer speakers. Does that mean that I should keep the LPCM 2 channel and lose one of the other audio options?
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malum
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22. February 2004 @ 10:54 |
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If you are at all interested in the quality of the music then you should be keeping the PCM 2 channel audio as it is the only stream that hasn't been compressed (which is why it is there on a music DVD)
When you had no audio it was probably because the PCM track was the default and therefore there was no track flagged to auto start with the concert. Had you pressed the audio button on your remote control it may well have flipped to one of the other tracks that would have been there but just hadn't been activated.
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22. February 2004 @ 12:49 |
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are u trying to fit a 7.3gb disk onto one dvd5 disk without compressing it at all, thats impossible if you dont want to lose any qulity at all u will have to put it onto 2 disks
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Slofire
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23. February 2004 @ 05:44 |
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If there is an option for DTS and you have a DTS receiver for go sakes chose that. Dolby 5.1 does not do music justice by compressing the stream. If not use the uncompressed 2.1 and keep the 5.1 it still sounds good but not as good as DTS
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malum
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23. February 2004 @ 05:50 |
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DTS is also compressed
The PCM stereo track will sound the best (that's why it's on there)
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Slofire
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23. February 2004 @ 06:18 |
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sorry meant DTS is not compressed as much, however i completely disagree that PCM sounds the best. I listend to the Zepplin dvd, on all 3 audio tracks and by far and away the DTS is the fuller, better sounding source. It absolutely blows away the PCM stereo
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malum
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23. February 2004 @ 06:30 |
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That's OK you are allowed to disagree.
The fact that the original source was stereo and that it has been compressed (in a lossy way) to make the DTS soundtrack means that there is less information there.
If it sounds better to you it just means that you are being fooled by the surround sound (and probably the bass track adding umph that your front pair of speakers don't have)) into thinking it sounds better.
Listen to on a proper HiFi the Stereo track should sound the best by quite some margin.
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Slofire
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23. February 2004 @ 07:20 |
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I don't like being fooled :(
but ya its IMO, but i have a fairly high end system. Energy Take-5 with a Yamaha RX(? cant remember exactly) receiver, but I will give it a listen tonight on stereo and see if it sounds any better. Would this go for newer recording such as the Pearl Jam DVD that has been released, because i could understand how the Zep is better in Stereo, but not the newer recordings. (Well now that i think about it i can) are any concerts actaully broadcast in 5.1 via the soundboard, or in stereo?
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malum
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23. February 2004 @ 08:45 |
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are any concerts actually broadcast in 5.1
dunno, good question.
Even if they were if would be 5 channels of Wav though so the process of converting it to DTS or AC3 would lose information.
They are both very lossy formats (compared to say 224kbps and higher Mp3).
In theory the lossless stereo track should sound better than any DTS or AC3 track.
Having said that DVD players are by and large not good at music reproduction unless you splash serious cash.
CDs played on my old Teac DVD player sounded pretty awful (and that was a mid range machine costing £400 or so) As it was also the main part of my HiFi I upgraded to the Arcam DV88 which is in a different league.
I made a DVD with Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon and Wish You Were Here in 5:1 AC3 (I forget what bit rate but it was the highest Vegas would let me) and I was disappointed with the result.
The video was nice though, Playboy calender 2001. oops I'll get my coat.
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wrp68
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23. February 2004 @ 17:17 |
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I just wanted to thank everyone for their responses. I took out the PCM and have just finished watching the concert in 5.1 and it was awesome. Everything turned out the way I expected. On my next try, I may consider leaving the PCM and taking out either the AC3 or DTS to give that a try, but the problem with that is the PCM is the largest of the audio and is the easy selection to take out to make less compression of the video. Anyway, thank guys!
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