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The official Graphics Card Overclocking Thread
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20. December 2008 @ 19:18 |
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Overclocking Graphics cards perhaps isn't as obvious as overclocking processors, but in some cases can provide noticeable performance boosts. This thread should be good to help people (including myself) gain experience in this field, and allow us to gain a good grasp of what overclocks well, what doesn't, and any particular trends that get discovered.
So, anybody with any stories to share? The first thing I have noticed, which should perhaps be quite obvious is that the HD4870X2 I have is nowhere near as good an overclocker as the solo HD4870 (512MB) - I think this is for two reasons - firstly because having two GPUs on one board, extra heat, the fact that crossfire is running, and so on and so forth will place more stress on them, and secondly, the memory used is high density, twice the amount of memory per chip as the ones used on the solo card, it stands to reason that for the same reason 2GB DDR modules don't overclock as well as 1GB ones, high density graphics memory should behave similarly.
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20. December 2008 @ 20:00 |
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One thing I noticed is that although CCC let's me max out both the core and memory frequencies, and tells me after the "test" that they are good, I still experience studdering. After I lowered my memory freq. slightly the problem went away. I'd post my numbers but I am on my laptop at the moment. I don't even know how much of a difference stock vs overclocking helps me. I need to pull out some 3D Mark06 and do some benchmarking.
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20. December 2008 @ 20:03 |
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Catalyst's test is ridiculous, for the HD4870 and X2 it has never failed any overclock, even one so unstable that the instant you open a 3D application your PC reboots. It used to be a reasonably valid test, no more it seems.
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DHua
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12. January 2009 @ 19:58 |
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I have a Nvidida GeForce 8500 GT. Can anyone help me OC this? I have no idea how to do this. Thanks
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12. January 2009 @ 20:06 |
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Ok, first of all you will need a program like nTune.
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DHua
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12. January 2009 @ 20:16 |
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What do I do after installing nTune?
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12. January 2009 @ 20:34 |
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You will be presented with various tools. Find the overclocking tool and you can see two main speeds, the core speed and the memory speed. Try overclocking the core first (slowly, graphics cards don't overclock as far as CPUs) and run games tests to see if the card can handle it - if it can't, it will crash. When you reboot, reduce the speed and try again. Do the same for memory, but instead of getting crashes, you are on the look out for graphical corruption, typically wrongly coloured sparkly bits (yellow or red), wrongly coloured whole blocks (grey walls randomly turning black or see through) and odd triangles showing up. Generally, if it's a problem, it won't be hard to spot. Memory typically overclocks better than the core.
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fez1122
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14. January 2009 @ 15:47 |
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First use the Nvidia Smart Doctor program it will allow you to quickly check the max clocks. Use Rivatuner once you fgure out stable clocks it's better.
Don't expect to get a huge boost out of that card. I have the same one and rarely notice a difference when it is overclocked.
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DHua
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14. January 2009 @ 18:50 |
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I have not tried it yet. Is it worth the try though?
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15. January 2009 @ 08:31 |
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The 8500GT can actually be overclocked quite far from what I've heard, but it's such a slow card to begin with, you're sort of turning a VW Beetle into a Mini, rather than getting anything grand out of it.
I don't tend to find auto clock finding programs very accurate at all though, I'll warn you of that now.
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DHua
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16. January 2009 @ 01:12 |
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Could overclocking a graphics card, memory, or processor damage my computer? It is running fine right now. I don't really want to risk that if I don't need it? What are the advantages of overclocking?
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16. January 2009 @ 08:36 |
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Not just by changing the clocks. You only cause damages by increasing the voltages, which is safe to an extent with CPUs, safe to a lesser extent with memory, and pretty much always dangerous with graphics cards.
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DHua
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16. January 2009 @ 22:01 |
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Okay thanks. I think I will overclock later when I feel like it is needed. What are the advantages of overclocking the CPU, RAM, and Graphics Card? What can that advantage be used for?
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17. January 2009 @ 07:36 |
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CPU-bound programs run faster, such as DVD rips, file compression, and so on. It also helps some games significantly.
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DHua
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17. January 2009 @ 13:01 |
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AS you know from our previous discussion, I have a Dell Dimension 2400. so I can not overclock my system. Is it still possible for me to overclock the graphics card and RAM? What are the advantages of overclocking RAM and Graphics Cards? What are the advantages used for?
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17. January 2009 @ 13:25 |
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The Dell 2400 uses integrated graphics, which can't be overclocked. In any case, integrated graphics are so weak you would need them to be more than ten times as powerful to play modern games, and that still wouldn't include crysis. Considering graphics overclocks very rarely net more than a 15% performance boost, it'd be a lost cause even if you could.
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DHua
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17. January 2009 @ 13:28 |
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I put a GeForce 8500 in my Dell Dimension. I guess I am not doing that. Not worth the risk for this, or any graphics card. What are the advantages of overclocking RAM?
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17. January 2009 @ 13:42 |
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Sorry, forgot about that. You can overclock your graphics card if you like, (though you will still get mediocre graphics performance as it's only an 8500). You can't overclock the RAM in your system as Dells do not allow that. Overclocking RAM is rarely useful other than for certain video editing programs, it's main function is to allow you to overclock your CPU further.
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DHua
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17. January 2009 @ 13:44 |
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So later on when I build my new computer, should I overclock my RAM before overclocking my CPU?
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17. January 2009 @ 13:48 |
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The two go hand in hand.
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DHua
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17. January 2009 @ 13:50 |
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So in other words, I would have to overclock them at the same time until the maximum overclock is reached?
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17. January 2009 @ 14:07 |
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Sort of. The memory speed of a modern motherboard is set at a multiplier to the bus speed, in the same way a processor is. Like a processor, you can reduce that multiplier. When you overclock, the bus speed is what you raise. A Core 2 Quad Q6600 for instance, has a normal front side bus speed of 266mhz (that, rather confusingly, is run at 4x speed, so 1066mhz). So, when you have 800mhz RAM, you run it at 3.0x multiplier so it matches up. The CPU is 2.4Ghz, so runs at 9.0x multiplier. To overclock the CPU beyond 2.4Ghz, you can't raise the multiplier beyond 9, so you have to overclock the front side bus. To reach 3Ghz, you need to bring the front side bus up to 333mhz. Left at 3.0x, the memory will now be at 1Ghz, which if it is just 800mhz, isn't likely to work, so you drop the multiplier to 2.4, which renders it 800mhz again.
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DHua
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17. January 2009 @ 14:11 |
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This whole process seems very complicated. When I decide to make my new computer, will there be people (maybe you) in the official overclocking thread to assist me step by step in this process?
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17. January 2009 @ 14:11 |
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Yes, we'll be there. It's not as difficult as it sounds, trust me :)
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DHua
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17. January 2009 @ 14:12 |
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Okay, thanks for all your help.
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