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31. March 2009 @ 07:37 |
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Please move if this is in the wrong section.
Ok, i have a max of $400 and i wanna buy from amazon.com
Ive seen a lot of people on youtube running games like GTA VC and audiosurf etc on there eeepc with, well pretty much no lag (low settings of course) well, i was going to buy the Asus EEEPc 1000HE. Most of the videos with the games and all were using aa 900MHz Celeron M, yet the 1000HE has a 1.6GHz intel atom. I'd like my eeepc to be able to run some games like gta vc, mabey in the car and stuff, ya know. so, what one should i get?
thanks!!!
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1. April 2009 @ 03:29 |
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The graphics boards in the EEE PCs are diabolical, I'm not convinced they're up to the job of playing games like these, but perhaps they've improved since the original model. I sincerely hope they have. The 1.6Ghz Atom will be a much better buy than the 900mhz Celeron, in any case.
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1. April 2009 @ 05:05 |
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Ok thanks Sammorris :)
also, have a look on youtube, there really nice systems, i like the idea of being able to work, and also able to play a few games on it away from home :) type in EEEPC Gaming ;)
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1. April 2009 @ 05:56 |
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You want an atom-based book, but there are two basic flavors: The cheap ones have the Intel GMA graphics device and the better ones have an nVidia graphics device.
The intel GMA graphics are terrible for gaming, as they have no hardware geometry processing, no hardware transform and lighting, and are not DirectX 7-10 compatable. This makes it impossible to play modern games, even if they are not resource-heavy.
The newest netbooks have 1.66GHZ Atom processors, and also have the newest version of the intel GMA...it is still trash, but it has gotten about 10% better.
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2. April 2009 @ 02:15 |
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2. April 2009 @ 05:42 |
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Of those, the 1000HE is the best one. It has the best features and also the longest battery life. It is the only one of the three with the new 1.66GHZ (N280) chip. The 1000HA is about the same for games, but has a shorter battery life and the wireless features are lacking, plus no bluetooth. The 900 series all have 8.9" screens; so I would avoid those.
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2. April 2009 @ 06:39 |
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I think ill get the 900a one now, because its a lot cheaper... heres detailed specs:
Manufacturer ASUS
Model name Eee PC 900A
Model id 900A
CPU type Intel Atom (Diamondville)
CPU speed 1600 Mhz
Graphics Intel GMA 950
OS Linux Xandros
Display Size
8.9" 1024 X 600
RAM 1024 MB
Flash 8000 MB
Keyboard YES
Mouse Pointer YES
Battery capacity 36 (W/hr)
Weight 990 gm
Size (w/h/d mm) 225/170/33 mm
I had a read here: http://www.intel.com/products/chipsets/gma950/index.htm
It said:
Microsoft* DirectX* 9 Vertex Shader 3.0 and Transform and Lighting supported in software through highly optimized Processor Specific Geometry Pipeline (PSGP)
Graphics Intel GMA 950, is that good?
thanks! =D
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2. April 2009 @ 06:53 |
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No, it can't play any games, short of DOS, and the less demanding browser-based flash games (even some of those will lag). It's cheaper for a reason, it's much worse!
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2. April 2009 @ 08:04 |
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sammoris, go look on youtube and you'll find they can...
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2. April 2009 @ 08:12 |
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I'm not looking on youtube, where the low res video masks the fact that the frame rate is unplayable. I know what the GMA950 is capable of. It can't even install Counter-Strike Source (as several people who come to our LAN parties keep finding out), which is a very lightweight FPS from over 4 years ago, and it wasn't especially demanding then. Audiosurf commands better graphics hardware than CS:S, and I imagine GTA Vice City does too.
The nVidia powered ones may well do what you ask (just), but the Intels certainly will not. If you were never going to consider the better Atoms, you shouldn't have asked us in the first place.
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3. April 2009 @ 01:01 |
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ok thanks, does anyone know which ones have the nvidia? ive looked at many of them and cant find any, they all have the intel chips
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3. April 2009 @ 07:44 |
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I'm not entirely sure if they're out yet. Killerbug does not make any suggestion that there's an EEE PC that does it, rather than just a netbook. However, all I can see are microboxes, like the iMac mini. There doesn't seem to be anything available for launch yet. I'm also a bit of a reliability sceptic for nvidia's mobile graphics solutions.
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3. April 2009 @ 09:13 |
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Notebpooks aren't gaming systems ffs.. They are for different uses.
Nice little machines designed for work on the go.. foss operating system (horrid commercial flavour of it.. but many many others ARE free and work as well if not better) and dispite what the M$ crew would have you believe there are a lot of games which will run beaut on it. Mostly older games because of the specs.. but there are some games now which you wouldn't be able to run on anything sporting any M$ directx crap.. because that doesn't render fast enough.
If you want to play the current (boring and all the same) games buy a desktop and spend $500 every 6 months for 2 years to end up with a worthless lump of junk after that time.
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6. April 2009 @ 08:27 |
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ok, thanks, ill see what i can find from here on sammorris.
and varnull, i NEVER said they were a gaming system, or that i needed a portable one! i just said i would like to ALSO be able to run SOME games on it, aswell as work... geez...
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6. April 2009 @ 09:48 |
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Yes, but the point varnull is trying to make is that the sort of games you'll be playing on an EEE are Minesweeper and Pong.
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7. April 2009 @ 02:26 |
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As someone who hates all netbooks in general I'm recommending saving another 100$ and getting a real laptop that will be 10X more powerful for a 25% cost increase. Even with an integrated chip on a low-end laptop you'll at least be able to play starcraft and warcraft 3. As well as having a usable screen and keyboard.
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7. April 2009 @ 03:41 |
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you can play some(not all) pc games on the eee pc( I bought a 900a(4gb ssd) Linux version and installed windows xp on it). I been playing revolt, mechwarrior 3( using an 2gb sd card for the iso images and a virtual dvd/cd drive) Playstation 1, n64, gba, snes, nes, genesis, sega cd emulators, you name it( no ps2 or dreamcast). You can also play dvd videos(if you rip the dvd and remove the copy guard)of a usb memory stick/ if you have portable dvd drive. You can't play games like ghost recon on there(got it free with my costume built pc(really pimped out(1tb drive, 4gb memory, cross fired hd video cards, gigabit ethernet, intel core 2 extreme). it doesn't have enough power(I tried).
Playstation 2-Free McBoot,HDloader 8.0c,Open PS2 Loader 0.7,80gb Maxtor HDD,SMS Media Player,PGen,SNES Station- Installed
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7. April 2009 @ 04:16 |
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thanks keebles :) i think ill go for an eeepc...probably...
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7. April 2009 @ 04:49 |
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You seem hell bent on an EEE pc, it's your money after all.
I don't hate all netbooks, they fill a space that laptops can't fully satisfy, hence their popularity.
Mine (Acer Aspire One) has more than enough grunt to run Urban Terror, Insane (very good, older driving game), Microsoft Madness, and Quake Arena too, network Quake and the olde worlde Doom. Older games but for me, that's fine, i have no interest in PC gaming anymore, lost interest quite some years ago. (Personally if i want to game i put on the xbox 360 or old box or some other console).
The Acer is now used 24/7 as a torrent machine, not because it's low powered or crap, but because it's 30W PSU means it costs very little to leave running 24/7, plus hardly gets warm, so i can trust leaving it unattended, try that with a desktop or laptop :).
Anything else i've already covered in a recent thread re Asus or Acer thread here ~ http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/749142
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7. April 2009 @ 06:40 |
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Starcraft yes, Warcraft 3 no. I've seen Warcraft 3 on integrated graphics, not pretty. Emulators up to the N64 all really run off the processor not the graphics card, and the Atom CPU is quite the powerhouse for its size. The rest of the games listed should give you an idea of whereabouts the cut off point. Mainstream titles up until 2001-2002, lightweight titles about as far as 2004, basic freeware/indie games until recently.
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7. April 2009 @ 06:45 |
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My answer would certainly be none of them.
eepc, what are they for? Crap spec but a bit smaller, great, for kids? No but kids want to play games too, hmm, what are they good for... ?
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7. April 2009 @ 06:47 |
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Over-portability mainly. Something you can carry with you even easier than a proper laptop.
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7. April 2009 @ 06:59 |
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Originally posted by LDee:
My answer would certainly be none of them.
eepc, what are they for? Crap spec but a bit smaller, great, for kids? No but kids want to play games too, hmm, what are they good for... ?
Low power (consumption) and portability. It was a welcome change carrying the netbook around instead of a laptop, my neck could tell the difference in weight :)
But i stopped carrying the netbook around as it was just as easy to leave a laptop at my other abode, hence the netbook found a new use for torrenting.
I already have loads of desktop pc's (old and new) and a few laptops. The one that gets left running 24/7 is the netbook due to the 30W PSU. If i want to do video encoding i use the Quad Core and/or one of the Dual Cores. If i or the kids want to just surf we use a laptop or a Dual Core. For me it's all about using the right kit for the job it's intended for.
I did use the netbook as a laptop for hours every day for weeks when i first bought it, the screen resolution is more than adequate for prolonged use and the keyboards are an acquired taste. I use a proper USB mouse with mine as the touchpads are a little small for prolonged use.
My eldest starts secondary school this year and if they allow laptops in class i might buy her a netbook, unless she wants a full size laptop. It all depends on what the machine is expected to be used for.
Sometimes i do find it easier to use a full sized screen as it's easier to concentrate when not having to scroll around a small screen. As i say it's all about using the correct kit for the required job at hand..
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9. April 2009 @ 11:28 |
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The eeePC series is not available with the nVidia chip, the only two netbooks that I have seen with this chip are the Asus N10J-A1 and N10J-A2. They are both very expensive.
Oh, I forgot to mention something: The screen is a widescreen, and most of the games that will run without the nVidia chip are very old and only support 4:3 resolutions. You can still play them without distortion, but you will be loosing two big chunks of a very small screen.
Also, the CPU & GPU can be overclocked. I doubt this will help much since the main problem is not the speed, but the lack of functions...but it might help a little. The old 1.60 could be pushed past 2.00 with stock cooling & voltage but I am not sure what the newer 1.66 is capable of (probably more).
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13. May 2009 @ 17:31 |
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Anyone know which ones typically have best battery life? I have been interested in these for a while and read that one of the eeepc's has around 5 hours of battery life. How true is this and if it is true does it mean you would have to stop almost all programs in the background?
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