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jshaba
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4. April 2009 @ 05:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey Guys!

Ive built myself a new computer, here are the specs

MB: Gigabyte ep45t-ud3p
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad 9400
RAM: 6GB Kit G Skill DDR3 1600

i also have a cheap asus video card. Im running Win XP Pro

Every now and then my computer just crashes. It freezes and i have to physically reboot.

I have a 550W power supply, is it possible that not enough power is going through the system. Ive tested the RAM and it seems fine,

Any ideas?

Thanks guys!
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4. April 2009 @ 07:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It's posible, depending on what the power supply is. If it's a cheap crappy unit, I'd consider it for quality reasons, but your system probably won't even draw 200W, let alone 550, depending on what the video card is.

How have you tested the memory? Have you overclocked the CPU?



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4. April 2009 @ 07:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
CPU is not being overclocked. i used goldmem and some other one from hirens boot disc
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4. April 2009 @ 07:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What brand is the PSU?



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4. April 2009 @ 07:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Antec, right now ive only got on ram module in the second ram slot. The pc hasnt crashed yet, is a faulty memory slot possible to cause crashes?
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4. April 2009 @ 07:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It certainly could.



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4. April 2009 @ 08:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That may well be it, its been on for several hours with no issues. tomorrow morning ill try running 2 modules on dual channel on slots 2 and 4.

Ill post with an update tomorrow
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4. April 2009 @ 08:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It could also be, for whatever reason, your memory doesn't work in triple channel.



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jshaba
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4. April 2009 @ 20:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
With one RAM module in slot 2, i left it on all night with no problems.

After putting ram in slots 2 and 4 it crashed again.

What the hell could it be?
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4. April 2009 @ 21:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Bad RAM or bad board. Try RAM first, it's easier to replace.



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5. April 2009 @ 00:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Im running goldmem right now, im currently on mt other PC. so far after an hour in it has showed up with 4 errors. During test 7 "random patterns" It shows the errors happening between the 5000mb mark and the 6000mb mark, is that to say its the thirs ram module thats playing up?

Ill givan update when the test finishes
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5. April 2009 @ 07:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
tested ram again running on dual channel with no errors.

Tested motherboard with no errors.

tested cpu with no errors.

Upgraded bios.

Problem still continues, does anyone have any ideas?

Toold used from Hirens boot CD
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5. April 2009 @ 15:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes it is, in the third set, so it's triple channel that's causing you issues. I still think you should replace the RAM since it's so easy. If it doesn't fix the issue, work from there.

Just a check, is your memory getting the correct voltage in the BIOS?



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5. April 2009 @ 18:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Replaced ram, still continues. Voltage control in bios is all set to auto.

No overclocking or any performance enhancing features are enabled i dont think so.

Everything is default
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5. April 2009 @ 19:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hang on, it's just occurred to me. Why are you using triple channel memory in a dual channel board? the 3x2GB kits are for i7s. You should really only be using two sticks at once. I saw the intel CPU and glossed over the rest assuming because you'd used DDR3 you have an i7 (since DDR3 for Core 2 is basically benefitless)



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5. April 2009 @ 19:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I realised that which is why i am now using only two sticks but to the same end. Comouter locks up sometimes even when idle.

It seems completely random so i have no idea whats causing it.

Should i manually change the voltage? if so to what since ive never done it
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5. April 2009 @ 19:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Manually changing the voltage might be necessary, but I'm not sure what the impact of using RAM intended for triple channel use in dual channel would be. I don't think it should prove a problem, but as I don't use DDR3 myself I can't confirm that.
Manually set the memory voltage to 1.65V, and see what happens then. If still the same, perhaps try some dual channel memory instead. If still no luck, RMA the motherboard.



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5. April 2009 @ 19:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ive set the voltage, Ill have to wait and see what happens.

So you dont think it would be the power supply not providing enough power to all components?
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5. April 2009 @ 19:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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5. April 2009 @ 19:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Looks like a problematic motherboard design. Probably best to have the board sent back. Preferably, for a simpler, more reliable DDR2 version.



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5. April 2009 @ 22:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Checked another motherboard which is the same model as my one and the problem still persists.

Im more than convinced that the problems lie with the voltage control in the bios, after reading several posts with some problems with the same motherboard and changing the bios settings seemed to fix it for them. But with no clear instructions i cant do it myself.

This is the kind of ram i have

http://www.shopbot.com.au/pp-g-skill-f3-...ice-152826.html

any ideas of what settings to use?
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6. April 2009 @ 07:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just set the voltage to 1.6 (and if no luck, try 1.65) volts. It should appear as M.I.T. in the BIOS - you'll have to go manual with the voltage control, but set everything but Memory volts to Auto. Be aware, I think they'll show up as numerical values, but you might get:
+0.05
+0.10
+0.15

etc.
If you do, I believe what you're looking for is +0.20 or +0.25.



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