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voodoo172
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19. May 2009 @ 12:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi i have all the components for my next pc build bought. these are:

AMD Phenom II X4 Quad Core 955 Black Edition 3.2GHz

Gigabyte GA-MA790XT-UD4P (Socket AM3) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard

"x XFX ATI Radeon HD 4850 "XXX Edition" 512MB GDDR3 TV-Out/Dual DVI/HDMI

Coolit Systems Domino A.L.C Silent Watercooling System

LG GGC-H20L Blu-Ray Reader & HD-DVD ROM Serial ATA Drive

OCZ Intel Extreme XMP 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-10666C7 1333MHz Dual Channel

Hitachi Deskstar P7K500 500GB SATA-II 16MB Cache

I also have the psu sorted.

question is, what case should i get to fit all of this in with enough cooling? i have an £80 ish budget and was looking at a Coolermaster Storm 'scout' case. does anyone know if the water cooling will fit correctly in this case correctly, bearing in mind it doesnt fit in an NZXT Hush case properly which has the mandatory 120mm fan slot required for mounting?

Any help would be greatly appreciated,

Thanks,
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19. May 2009 @ 15:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by voodoo172:
I also have the psu sorted.

I don't like the sound of this. What PSU did you buy?



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19. May 2009 @ 17:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
im just re-using my OCZ GameXStream 700W Power Supply from a previous build.
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19. May 2009 @ 18:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That'll be OK I suppose. GameXStream units are very weak, and powering an AMD Quad is no mean feat as they're very inefficient. I'm not sure how long it will last in the role, but it should be OK initially.



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19. May 2009 @ 23:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
powering an AMD Quad is no mean feat as they're very inefficient.
You should do a little research before posting something like that. AMD's phenom II uses almost the same amount of power on idle as some of intels quad cores and at full load uses 30 watts more than the q9400. the 955 uses alot less than intels core i7 cpus.

http://techreport.com/articles.x/16796/12

for cases the antec 900 would work well with water cooling

http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Component...productId=25541

if you want to spend a little more the coller master haf would be a great case for water cooling.

http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Component...productId=33726

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20. May 2009 @ 09:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
And idle load matters to a PSU? Hardly. A real 700W PSU would laugh at a Phenom II's power consumption. (I'm well aware the i7s use more power than the Phenom IIs, and I would say the same for those, before you jump to conclusions). However, a GameXStream 700W is not a true 700W unit, nowhere near it, they aren't very good units.
Also, for stuff like cases I'd recommend other sites to Aria, mainly ebuyer and scan.
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Coolermas...er-Case-w-o-PSU
You'll notice they're a bit cheaper for a start.



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20. May 2009 @ 09:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm sorry. I thought that you were saying that the phenom II was very inefficient. The way you said it made me believe you were trash talking the cpu. lol.

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20. May 2009 @ 10:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, I am to an extent, it uses a lot more power for the amount of work it does compared to some other CPUs, but the i7 is no better.



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21. May 2009 @ 01:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You can find about 300 cases that will work find your your needs on newegg. I found a few $25 cases that should meet your needs completely. It's just a matter of what looks good to you.

BTW...The Phenom II is a waist. The 2.66GHZ I7 is about the same cost as the 3.2GHZ Phenom II, and it is a lot faster...with a better upgrade path. If you are buying the mainboard & DDR3 anyway, you might as well go I7.


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21. May 2009 @ 08:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The cpu may be around the same price but the whole platform cost of the i7 is higher. You would have to pay for an over $200 motherboard and triple channel memory kit. But if he has the money i7 would make a great computer.

GAMING COMPUTER - Intel q9550 @ 3.4ghz | EVGA GTX 260 core 216 | Gigabyte ds3l | 6gb Gskill DDR2 800 ram | Silverstone 700 watt psu | WD 640gb hdd | Seagate 300gb hdd | LG dvd burner | Samsung dvd burner | Antec p182 case | logitech 2.1 speakers | logitech g11 keyboard | Samsung 25.5in 1900x1200 monitor | 19in 1440x900 secondary monitor | Windows 7 64bit | SERVER - Gigabyte 785g motherboard | AMD Phenom 9650 | 6gb ram | three 1.5tb hdd | Seagate 1tb hdd | WD 750gb hdd | two 300gb hdd | Maxtor 200gb hdd | Ark rackmount case | CentOS 5.5
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21. May 2009 @ 10:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Agreed, the i7 is a MUCH better performer (as the i7 usually shares in AMD's advantages with certain video editing programs) but the motherboards are a fair bit more expensive. The CPU is, however, $35 more expensive in the US, and you can get much cheaper boards for AMDs than the i7s, not that you necessarily should, but you can. For instance, an MA770T-UD3P is $85, the MA790XT-UD4P is $140, whereas the cheapest i7 boards start at $180, and DDR3 is mandatory for i7s, it's optional for AMD, depending or not whether you use the AM2 or AM3 platform.

Besides, why discuss this when the OP has already bought the parts for his system?



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