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28. May 2009 @ 12:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey all,

I have just my new PC and i am slightly worried about temps. First of all here is everything in it:

Xclio Case with 2 120mm fans and a 360mm fan with speed adjust,
Asus Crosshair 2 MOtherboard
AMD 2 x4 Phenom Black Edition 3.0ghz Quad Core,
Custom Heatsink Red Scorpion by Xigmatek ( AKASA 450 Thermal Compound)
OCZ 2x 2gig 1066mhz
Western Digital S-ATA 500gig HDD
Samsung SH-D162 DVD Rom
LG HL-DT-ST DSA-H44N DVD Writer
850W Icute PSW

SO here are my temps:-
CPU 39c
System 38c ( Which i believe is the M/B)

I have read alot of articals about the temp for this and they are saying 44 is very high for the cpu, mine does however increase to 45 when put under load. Idle temp does seem ok to me 36c and 39c. Does anyone recommend a better heatsink or anything better? Or do you think these temps are good? Eventually i shall have 2 Nvidia 9800GT 1gig SLI's running and temps maybe monitored for this. But i have not and prob will not overclock the system as i have also disabled auto clock in the bios, never liked it and had bad experiances. SO PLEASE HELP WITH TEMPS! Are they ok?????? lol
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28. May 2009 @ 14:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Those temps are fine.
I would recommend against adding another 9800GT in SLI, as for £135 or $180 you can buy a card that's faster than two 9800GTs in SLI, and without the game compatibility issues (HD4870 1GB)
My biggest concerns are with the long term reliability of the system. You've used a very poor quality PSU, which will probably fail within a few months in spectacular fashion, sparks, flames, you know it, and could well destroy the rest of the system at the same time.
The RAM is also rather suspect, OCZ stuff has been pretty poor recently, but my main concern is the power supply.



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29. May 2009 @ 14:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Oh the iCUte 800W came highly recommended within the Republic of gamers and the OCZ's are suppose to be ok aswel i thought the OCZ slis might of been better. Will try and find a new psu, well £85 down the drain. What PSU do you reccomend and what do you think the max temps are for my board and cpu, cannot find this anywhere, or im looking in the wrong places. Also i was going to run 8gig ram but in 64bit vista home premium, but jungleflasher wont work in there so settled with 32bit home premium. Any improvements recommended will be greatly appreciated and thanks for your reply
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29. May 2009 @ 14:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
iCute obviously don't make it, the retail and OEM sides to PSUs are 99% of the time different, Seasonic being the only exception I can think of. However, given the quality of iCute's cases I see no reason for them to use anything but a terrible OEM. The problem with PSUs as big as 800W is that most people, much like you have, build PCs that only use 200 Watts, notice the system works, and then gives the unit a 10/10 for that fact, when neither long-term reliability or upgrade scope have been explored. The true way to get an idea if a PSU is good or not is to use 75%+ of its rated capacity for several months as I have with two units, the Corsair HX 520W and Zalman ZM850-HP, and they both passed, very quietly, with flying colours. I bet you anything you like, draw 600W off that unit, it'll go bang, and that'll be the end of it.
You don't need to throw it away, if it's new, just send it back for a different unit under the distance seling unit (IIRC you get 14 days to do this from date of purchase).

Could you not make a portable extra OS for Jungleflasher?



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29. May 2009 @ 15:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
for the jungleflasher, just stick with iprep, or even snowmans mod disc. it will do everything that JF will other than hitachis, and you shouldnt have to worry about them as they arent made anymore. only thing you would ever have to flash in the future would be either a benq or a lite-on.

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29. May 2009 @ 21:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
iPrep didn't seem to work on our console, so be a little way of using it.



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30. May 2009 @ 04:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Antech seems to make decent power supplies for good prices.


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30. May 2009 @ 04:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The EarthWatts units were good back when they were Seasonic OEMs, I don't think they're as good any more. The Basiq units are pretty poor really. The Truepowers are alright, but there are better quality units about.



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I have had the psu over 14 days now, i typed in the specs of the pc into republic of gamers and said a 800 watt will be required for sli's as they use most of it. However my system is pulling alittle over 300 at the min. Would like 2 sli's as i have read up alot about this and new games coming out will support this. As for flashing, i tend to use dosflash at the min but i have had alot of hitachis for some reason, and jungleflasher seems alot easier when flashing the ms28 & ms25. Benq's and lite-ons are easy in both dos and vista. I am however alittle worried about the psu now lol. Once the system is done it shall be a beast lol. My problem aswel is cooling but watercooling is a defo no no in my book. The Red scorpion heatsink is also blocking one of my ram slots!. Everything else seems fine.
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Nah, I ran an overclocked quad core (Granted, an Intel which is more efficient, but there's not a huge difference, maybe 40-50W) and Crossfire off a Corsair HX 520. Thos calculators are always over-estimates in case people buy bad brands, as you have.
If you've measured your power draw at the wall, remember to factor in the efficiency of the PSU itself. If you draw 300W from the mains, you'd normally be using 245-250W at DC (out of the PSU).




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2. June 2009 @ 05:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
Nah, I ran an overclocked quad core (Granted, an Intel which is more efficient, but there's not a huge difference, maybe 40-50W) and Crossfire off a Corsair HX 520. Thos calculators are always over-estimates in case people buy bad brands, as you have.
If you've measured your power draw at the wall, remember to factor in the efficiency of the PSU itself. If you draw 300W from the mains, you'd normally be using 245-250W at DC (out of the PSU).
Not all of them are...a few have said my system pulls only 400W, yet my old Antech 550 tripped it's fuse before I added my third RAID card and 6-9th hard drives. Ultimately, the calculators are trash and you should do the math yourself based on the maximum draw of each device.


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2. June 2009 @ 06:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That's because a lot of Antec units were naff. You did not use 550W on your system, I guarantee it. One of my friends could run 16 Hard drives off a 580W unit with a dual core CPU. He needed to modify the internals to convert it from a multi-rail to a single-rail PSU but it worked fine thereafter. The calculators are indeed trash, but because they tell you that you need far more power than you actually do.



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