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stricko
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17. June 2009 @ 09:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I've just upgraded to 4.4.22 and I'm copying some of my DVDs to a media server. For movie titles I use Recode to simply strip off the menus and special features, leaving the main title as a DVD structure, full size, no compression. I rip the original disk using AnyDVD

I've been doing this for a while and it seems to have worked fine for lots of disks. But I noticed recently that main movie copies are now jerky. Audio is fine, but the video seems to stutter, and then catch up with itself repeatedly through the film. As the copies are on a server I've been able to try and play them back on different machines, using different software, and I've eliminated the usual suspects like hardware acceleration. Checking out the results at various stages, I can only conclude that it's Recode that is causing the problem and that it has only started recently.

i.e.

Old recode "main movie" copies of other disks play OK
The original DVD disks play OK
The full disk ripped copy of the DVDs play OK

A hard disk "main movie" copy of the movie has the problem
A DVD-R copy of the main movie produced directly by Recode has the same problem.

So far I've seen the problem on two titles (the last 2!), one recent, the other a year old.

Reading the previous thread, the frame rate on both the ripped copy and the recode version is 25fps.

I'm running XP Home, fully up to date, PowerDVD 6, and have also tried the files on Vista, PowerDVD 9 and JRMC.

Any ideas? and how do I go back to an earlier version?
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stricko
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17. June 2009 @ 18:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just a bit more info, the "main movie" copy is significantly smaller than the relevant sections of the ripped copy of the whole DVD, about 20% at a rough guess.
stricko
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17. June 2009 @ 18:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The size reduction is probably just the removal of additional audio streams. I've re-run the burn to the same hard disk as the dvd rip is on, just to finally eliminate any naagging worries that it may be hardware related. Still the same problem. Log file is blow, but I can't see anything unusual

********** Nero Recode **********

Version: 4.4.22.100


Project type: Main Movie to DVD
Compilation name: THE_DAY_THE_EAR
Target size: DVD5 (2282925)

23:28:53 File LangStreamPatcher.cpp, Line 61
Command table patching started...

23:28:53 File LangStreamPatcher.cpp, Line 144
All tables successfully patched!

Burn settings:
Target: Hard disk folder
Number of copies: 1
Target folder: E:\day temp\VIDEO_TS (37042515968 bytes free)
Shutdown when finished: false
Advanced Analysis: false
Compress Adaptive: false

23:29:30 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 241
Compile DVD: init

VTS_01 Title Vobs [12230 vobus] 4620.78MB -> 3730.79MB [R 1.00]
Video: 3066.63MB, extra: 664.16MB
Audio: 5 streams
0. 0. Dolby Digital 5.1-ch English 342.73MB [enabled]
1. 1. Dolby Digital 5.1-ch Spanish 293.93MB [disabled]
2. 2. Dolby Digital 5.1-ch French 293.93MB [disabled]
3. 3. Dolby Digital 5.1-ch Italian 293.93MB [disabled]
4. 4. Dolby Digital 5.1-ch English- Visually Impaired 293.93MB [enabled]
Subpicture: 8 streams
0. 0. English 3.62MB [enabled]
1. 1. English 0.00MB [enabled]
2. 2. Spanish 2.89MB [disabled]
3. 3. Spanish 0.19MB [disabled]
4. 4. French 2.25MB [disabled]
5. 5. French 0.00MB [disabled]
6. 6. Italian 2.76MB [disabled]
7. 7. Italian 0.12MB [disabled]

23:29:30 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 1295
Compile DVD: begin copy 1

23:29:30 File NeroRecorder.cpp, Line 129
Writing to harddrive folder started

23:29:30 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 567
Compile DVD: burning 2282925 sectors (1910235 required)

23:29:30 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 781
Compile DVD: adjust target size to 4458.84MB (3730.93MB obtained)

23:29:30 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 615
Compiling DVD Volume started

23:30:20 File NeroRecorder.cpp, Line 664
Added extra file VTS_01_2.VOB

23:31:15 File NeroRecorder.cpp, Line 664
Added extra file VTS_01_3.VOB

23:32:10 File NeroRecorder.cpp, Line 664
Added extra file VTS_01_4.VOB

23:32:42 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 1201
Compile DVD: finished VTS_01 Title Vobs

VTS_01 Title Vobs:
Original 4620.78MB -> Expected 3730.79MB -> Output 3730.80MB
Finished error 0.01MB
Ratio encoded = 0
Original encoded = 7015
Slide encoded = 0
StillImage encoded = 0
Output extra size = 628.34MB
Source video size = 3150.37MB
Pictures Modified [I 47] [P 80] [B 25314]

23:32:43 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 639
Compile DVD: completed successfuly (3730.94MB)

23:32:43 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 314
Compile DVD: exit
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29. June 2009 @ 21:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just for information there is a problem with Nero Recode latest version update that came out in June. Many people are having problems with playback and pixelation...which looks like fireworks to me. Nero is aware of the problem and is supposed to correct it in the next update, hmm. Anyway here is an answer listed from a Nero Employee in the Nero Forum on the problem, if you want to use the workaround, which IMHO involves a lot, but here it is for what it is worth. Otherwise you got to wait for next update to correct the problems.

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Here is a workaround to install the previous version of Nero Recode and keep the rest of your Nero 9 Suite updated, until the problem with Nero Recode is solved. It takes several steps, but in the meantime you can use your Nero Recode application without this problem.

- Uninstall Nero 9 using the Nero CleanTool (you can download it from here http://www.nero.com/eng/downloads-nero9-to...utilities.html)
- Install the previous version of Nero 9
- Copy the installed "Nero Recode" folder to another folder
- Uninstall all Nero 9 programs using the Nero General CleanTool.
- Reinstall the latest version of Nero 9 (9.4.13.2).
- Then just overwrite the Nero Recode folder with the previously copied one.

Hope this helps you in the meantime,



stricko
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30. June 2009 @ 02:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for this, it's a lot of effort for the workaround, especially given the length of time it takes to install Nero these days.....

If I'm desperate, I've got an old copy of Nreo 6 on my server that I can use.

I'll wait
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3. July 2009 @ 13:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by stricko:
Thanks for this, it's a lot of effort for the workaround, especially given the length of time it takes to install Nero these days.....

If I'm desperate, I've got an old copy of Nreo 6 on my server that I can use.

I'll wait

Use DVD Shrink. As long as no compression is used it will work fine.

Looking for a new burner? Check here.
http://www.cdfreaks.com/reviews/
The reviews also help to determine which media gives the best results.

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 3. July 2009 @ 13:52

stricko
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4. July 2009 @ 00:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Fair point, an old friend never lets you down....
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bob1324
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10. July 2009 @ 06:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Where can I find a previous version of Nero 9?
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