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9. November 2006 @ 02:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Any news on R600?



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some rumours that ati have sent out some, not yet final hardware, silghtly under powered review samples, but nothing concrete. they are waiting to see what the 8800s can do before they show thier hand, makes sense to me.

also some other rumours of the mid/low end g80s in feb with some less power hungry features, which should be nice those of use with out 1kw psu's

other news

scan have also got the new nf68(689i) mobos in. a steal for £199.15 :)

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Yeah, but why? lol. An 8600GT could be very promising, and what do you reckon, 7800GT/GTX power level? Would probably have half the thermal consumption of those cards too, that's one thing nVidia have got good at, and ATi have just ignored, seemingly! True the 8800 power consumption is huge, but the R600's will very likely be far bigger. I'd prescribe a 700W+ PSU to guarantee good performance with one X2800, you'd want a 1KW unit for two, and as for 3x crossfire? Erm....



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tough one that, history shows the new mid range is on par with the high end of the last gen, but with the 7800s, 7900s and the gx2, who knows? i would guess it would be somewhere in between the first two, but with sm 4 being its trump card.

i wonder which models ati will be bringing out at launch, and if they be £450?

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just read this and it seems we have no need to worry about the power.

sorry i cant get the link right but you will see the story.

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Hmmm, given the past I'd expect ATi's new offering to retail at somewhere aroun the £400 mark rather than £480 that the 8800GTX is. Previously it seems all the nVidia cards have appeared at higher prices than ATi, and that hasn't changed much with time. The midrange segment is very competitive, but at high end, nVidia's fanboy-attracting marketing seems to be allowing for a higher net price than the competition. A while back I noted an X1900XT being $290 at newegg and the 7900GTX being $450. As far as I'm aware that situation, may not be as bad but it still stands. I remember the 7950GX2 being over £400. I never remember the X1900 series being that much...



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is this a sexy piece of metal or what?

not sure about the noise with a stock cooler but take a look at the temps on the before pic near the bottom, toasty!
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that looks pretty sweet, assuming it is SilenX, not the company that goes by the same name and makes poor-quality ripoffs of the same products...



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the future of multi threaded gaming, read what the big gun says

@sam
i dont know about low quality ripoffs of silenx but the resulting temps (if true) look quite good.

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hey im building my first PC on a $2000(CAD)after tax budget ($1750 USD). Unfortunately that includes a monitor. It will be used mainly for gaming. Any advice would be appreciated. So far I have:

Intel Core2 Duo E6600 2.40GHz$369
Asus P5B Core2 Duo$157
Corsair Value Series 2GB 667MHz DDR2 Dual-Channel (2x1GB)$270
EVGA e-GeForce 7950GT KO 512MB$328 [no more 7900 GTO's :(
Seagate 250GB SATA-2$94
LG GSA-H22N DVD Writer$40
Antec Sonata II Case Black 450W PSU$122
Arctic Cooling Fan 12 120mm Case Fan$12
LG L194WTX 19" Widescreen 5ms GtG, 2000:1, 300 cd/m2, DVI, 1440x900 Black LCD Monitor$255
Windows XP Home $97

bringing me in just under $2000 CAD
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get a dif dvdrw. i had one of those far 3 days and took it back. it made more coasters than any thing.
get an nec or pioneer.

but the rest is great.

well, you might want a dif psu aswel

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ok I guess i'll get a Pioneer 111 DVDRW Dual-Layer instead. And I'll just get the Antec P150 Quiet MidTower case instead of the Sonatta II since it comes with the Antec Neo HE 430W PSU which is supposed to be great and costs like $120 seperately and its only a $60 upgrade to that case, plus it being super silent doesnt hurt.

thanks marsey

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remember you can't booktype DVD+R media to DVD-ROM with Pioneer drives. i would go Plextor ,Lite-On or BenQ

i'am not sure that 430 watt PS is going to be big enough . i would go 480 watt at the very least, you might check that out.

everything else looks pretty good . i would check newegg.com on prices before you pull the trigger

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try this http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculator.jsp to work out what psu you will need.

after a quick look around at what you could oc that to and by using that link i think you want a good 600w model.

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is windows xp home edition a good computer
to you nerds
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great, im begining to realize that I may have underestimated the importance of a good PSU. So with that site it recommended 473W without any OC'ing. I dont plan on doing alot of OC besides the video card. So does anyone know of a PSU/case solution that wont break the bank? My original budget could fit $200 CAD but lower would be nice. Otherwise im gunna have to rethink this PC. :/
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you should probably look into getting them separate and spend 100 on each.

you want to check how many amps the 7950 needs and start from there.

@silver

thats a good way to get people to respond to you.
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17. November 2006 @ 17:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
silver, windows xp home edition is not a computer but an operating system
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esoteric1, the Antec True-Power 550 watt would work great, thats what i have per my sig

also don't short cut a new system wait and do it right

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@silver

nerds only use linux
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17. November 2006 @ 23:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The hiper 580sli 630 max w/ modular cabling has served me well

@ Marsey99

Noticed your comment "nerds only use linux" plaese exsplain your point? I do not use or have never used linux but w/ the nwe OS from Gates I do not want anyone dictating my down loads [coping programs] and at those prieces at that... Please enlighten me on our opinion?

Win. 7/Case- Thermaltake Armor11 bays "full case"-with side fan panel... removed stock fans replaced with SCYTHE 92mm 2ea. and SCYTHE/s-flex sff21f 120mm 2ea./ sunbeam 4 fan controller/Processor-Intel Core2Duo E6850 3.0 w/ Zalman CNPS7700-CU cooler/motherboard-Asus P5N32-E SLI p680I/PSU-Cooler Master RS 850 watt real power pro sli/Sound Card-Creative Sound Blaster X-FI FATAL1ty/Cables-Thermaltake Rounded IDE ATA & ATA2/Memory- 4 Gig Corsair XMS 800 MH/HDD-1ea. WD 300GB 10K VelociRaptor Sata-1ea.WD 320GB 7200rpm Sata/Drives- 2ea. Benq 1655 [Rev.BCDB]2ea.LG GH24NS70[rev.GN00]/52in1 card reader&Writer&USB/ Video cards- 1ea. EVGA Gforce Nvida GTX 550Ti /Monitors- 2ea. ACER AL2017 LCD 20 in. ea/Printer-
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At tigerDirect they have a Geforce 7600 Gt XXX Vid card[139.99], how much more performance will I get from what I have now w/ the SLI set up per my sig?

Win. 7/Case- Thermaltake Armor11 bays "full case"-with side fan panel... removed stock fans replaced with SCYTHE 92mm 2ea. and SCYTHE/s-flex sff21f 120mm 2ea./ sunbeam 4 fan controller/Processor-Intel Core2Duo E6850 3.0 w/ Zalman CNPS7700-CU cooler/motherboard-Asus P5N32-E SLI p680I/PSU-Cooler Master RS 850 watt real power pro sli/Sound Card-Creative Sound Blaster X-FI FATAL1ty/Cables-Thermaltake Rounded IDE ATA & ATA2/Memory- 4 Gig Corsair XMS 800 MH/HDD-1ea. WD 300GB 10K VelociRaptor Sata-1ea.WD 320GB 7200rpm Sata/Drives- 2ea. Benq 1655 [Rev.BCDB]2ea.LG GH24NS70[rev.GN00]/52in1 card reader&Writer&USB/ Video cards- 1ea. EVGA Gforce Nvida GTX 550Ti /Monitors- 2ea. ACER AL2017 LCD 20 in. ea/Printer-
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@ SAM or who ever-

AMD has some utilities and up-dates for thier 64x2 prossores... I hear you can splite the two... here is my thought??? If you can split the two you can burn two differant movies at the same time on the fly? I have never heard anyone doing that, but two weeks ago at a shop I heard two young'ens deep into conversation about doing it???

Win. 7/Case- Thermaltake Armor11 bays "full case"-with side fan panel... removed stock fans replaced with SCYTHE 92mm 2ea. and SCYTHE/s-flex sff21f 120mm 2ea./ sunbeam 4 fan controller/Processor-Intel Core2Duo E6850 3.0 w/ Zalman CNPS7700-CU cooler/motherboard-Asus P5N32-E SLI p680I/PSU-Cooler Master RS 850 watt real power pro sli/Sound Card-Creative Sound Blaster X-FI FATAL1ty/Cables-Thermaltake Rounded IDE ATA & ATA2/Memory- 4 Gig Corsair XMS 800 MH/HDD-1ea. WD 300GB 10K VelociRaptor Sata-1ea.WD 320GB 7200rpm Sata/Drives- 2ea. Benq 1655 [Rev.BCDB]2ea.LG GH24NS70[rev.GN00]/52in1 card reader&Writer&USB/ Video cards- 1ea. EVGA Gforce Nvida GTX 550Ti /Monitors- 2ea. ACER AL2017 LCD 20 in. ea/Printer-
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@ herrick

it was a comment aimed at silver112's question about nerds and using xp home. i thought it was funny more than anything.

iv never used a linux distro but depending on how the netx 12 months go for vista i minght use one as my next os. linux comes in many forms, but they are all free open source operating systems, that are updated and maintained by its user base, in a co-op fashion.

i friend of mine uses it and he says that Kubuntu is one of if not the easiest to get to grips with (his opinion as i have not used linux).

i do know that some versions allow you to run the os from the disk so you can try them without the need to install them or delete anything else, which is nice.

i think that someone in the software threads will be able to shed more light on this topic as this is a hardware thread.

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indeed, anyone wanting Linux info can find oodles of it here -
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/421903
http://forums.afterdawn.com/forum_view.cfm/163



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thanks creaky i think i will do some reading up on linux too, just in case.
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