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The Official OC (OverClocking) Thread!
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26. April 2007 @ 15:46 |
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It's as much a discussion forum as one for Questions and answers, but is there something you asked we've forgotten about?
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koa_jesus
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26. April 2007 @ 17:12 |
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anyone know where I can get a free BIOS update for my P.O.S.??
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esoteric1
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26. April 2007 @ 17:51 |
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hey fellas, just got a question on the E4300 and overclocking, well its not so much a question, more of a need for reassurance lol. Im planning to use the E4300 in my build mainly since its so cheap, especially after the recent price cut, but I'm willing to buy a higher model if its necessary to achieve the 3.2Ghz (400x8)(1:1) overclock I want. Im going with an EVGA Nforce 680i, OCZ Platinum XTC REV.2 PC2-6400 4-4-4-15, Zalman CNPS9700NT, Antec 900 and so on. So basically is the E4300 'good' enough for this overclock and set up?, will it make it but die on me fast? It would be great to get to 3.2 stable with such a cheap chip, but I just wanna be sure...safe than sorry.
All help appreciated
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26. April 2007 @ 19:39 |
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Well good luck to those who do get the answers thay wanna hear.
well to answer your last question, which nobody did beacues nobody is using a nf590 mobo.
no.
also if you had checked the post i made above your previous one you would of been able to see my (almost) full specs as it has a link to a cpuz validation in it.
you dont realy ask any questions, or if you do they are well hidden in your posts.
what exactly do you want to know?
your running at 2.85ghz with an amd x2 which is good going to start with, what other bits are in it? i know you have ASUS CROSSHAIR nVidia nForce 590i, AM2 X2 4200 (512x2 L2, 65w, 90nm ver). 512x2 PC4300 CORSAIR TWIN2X-4300C3PRO but what about cooling or your psu?
what are your temps?
what have you used to test for stability?
not everyone has all the answers if we dont have all the facts.
@esoteric
does this answer your question?
truth is not all cpus oc as well as each other and you may be unlucky and get a duffer. mine will hit higher fsb at lower multis but i run it 24/7 at this as it is cooler and needs less cooling (read makes less noise) on this voltage.
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koa_jesus
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26. April 2007 @ 20:46 |
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can anyone help me find a BIOS that is compatible with the A8M2N-LA or NodusM-GL8E so that I can flash a new BIOS into the board
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esoteric1
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26. April 2007 @ 20:56 |
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@marsey99
whats your voltage on those 2?
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26. April 2007 @ 21:44 |
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sammorris; No prob there!. RE: "but is there something you asked we've forgotten about?" Not per say but was really looking for users overclocking the nVidia nF4 & 590i, or Intel editions 590i or 680i then to share comparibles "comps" or results,
marsey99; That is what I asked. You are the 1st one in many weeks to actually ask something back to folloew up. Lol!
For the nF4 ASUS A8N-SLI Premium w/ x2 4400 (ADV4400DAA6CD 89W/90nm) - CPU: 285x10 @ 1.350v (2.85g/1140HT), 4x HT @ 1.25, nF chipset @ 1.6v, DDR570, 1:1 @ 2.5-4-4-7, 2T @ 2.8v,
Loaded to descktop at CPU/MB = 38c/36c @ 1.31~1.34v
returned to 35c/36c @1.36 AVG. aft 5Mins. as read by PC ProbeII. MB slowly warms to 38-39c during warm days.
ASUS A8N-SLI Premium BIOS v1009
Athlon 64 x2 4400+ (ADV4400DAA6CD) (89W/90nm)
OCZ PowerStream 520ADJ 520W (620 Peak)
2x BFG nVidia GeForce 6600GT OC 256MB
Corsair TWINx1024A-PC4400C2PT (2x512 dual ch kit)
Maxtor SATA2 200GB (40/150) Partitioned
OS: XP Pro x64 Edition w/ SP2 v2003
2x Raptor 74g, 10K RPM (RAID Ready pull from nF4 Intel Ed)
Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro w/MSC 3.2
latest BIOS as of 02-02-07
Will gather specs for CROSSHAIR soon and psot. (not that it will matter but will get em' to share)
I haven't got hold of any test apps as of yet but looking into it as we speak. Do you guys have a routine test prep and curriculum to go by? As for now I go by the old push, push, & slowly pull back till nice and steady for real world apps that I use. I do run a corse of these same apps in various rigs to comp time and performance overall. Not rocket science accurate but makes for fair refference point.
Nuckin Futs
Sony PSP/PS3,
ASUS RAMPAGE II EXTREME(X58) w/ i7 930 DO @ 4.305GHz (205x21 @ 1.323v) 2:8 DDR1680 @ 6-6-6-18
ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME (X48) w/ Q6600 @ 3.81GHz, 422x9 @ DDR1680 6-7-6-20 @ 1.71v
ASUS CROSSHAIR w/ x2 6400+
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26. April 2007 @ 21:59 |
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For those who wanna know, This is not a new build. I built it almost 2 yrs ago with a (then decent CPU) A64 3800 OC'd on air to 2.6 as a decent daily user with very few crashes, but mostly due to software app test and family stressing it with high end PC games. For the 2nd year of its life, it has bean now running as the specs above for over 1 year to date and very stable.
So despite what a lot of you may have read of this mobo by ASUS, I have had good usage out of it in its 2 years. Only issue is the same but as on my CROSSHAIR and and older P5N32-SLI w/ heatpipe onboard, is they get warmer then as if on air. Any ideas as for replacing the mosfet coolers (custom copper heat sinkc) if removing the heatpipes off the chipset assy.?
Sony PSP/PS3,
ASUS RAMPAGE II EXTREME(X58) w/ i7 930 DO @ 4.305GHz (205x21 @ 1.323v) 2:8 DDR1680 @ 6-6-6-18
ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME (X48) w/ Q6600 @ 3.81GHz, 422x9 @ DDR1680 6-7-6-20 @ 1.71v
ASUS CROSSHAIR w/ x2 6400+
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26. April 2007 @ 22:02 |
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esoteric,
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marsey99 said:truth is not all cpus oc as well as each other and you may be unlucky and get a duffer.
I just got done building an E4300/Asus P5N-E for a young lady member here and the temps were laughably low (see benchmarks a couple of pages back in this thread). CPU idles at 29-32C and the MB never went over 38 while running OCCT for 12 hours. This was with a stock Intel cooler. I shipped it minus the stock cooler and she installed an Arctic Freezer 7 Pro when it got there and the temps are lower yet. It's running at 3.0GHz with just a mild 2 bump raise in CPU voltage and 1 bump to 2.1v in memory voltage. It's the luck of the draw. You get parts are at the top end of the scale and they mesh real well and good things happen.
I'm working on building another E4300 for myself, but this time with a GigaByte GA-965P-DS3 rev 1.33 motherboard which has more features than the rev. 1s or 2s, but not quite as many as the new version 3.3. Check it out here:
http://www.chiefvalue.com/product-_-prod...tem--13-128-042
It supports the 1333 bus and the Quad Core Extreme. Sound is only 6 channel but I only have Dolby PLII anyway so I don't care about that. It's at avery good price with the supplied link. At present, I've got everything but the memory and video card so I'm almost ready to go. I just hope I can get lucky for the second time in a row and get a decent OC. Like I say it's the luck of the draw!
Happy Computering,
theone
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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26. April 2007 @ 22:33 |
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esoteric,
[quote]marsey99 said:truth is not all cpus oc as well as each other and you may be unlucky and get a duffer.
Very understood. That was never my Question. I even state that myself to others in this post. The question was solely directed at the mobo's in question. I have in the past on other forums asked for feedback on the CPU's in use on certain mobo's for an OC refference point. Cause it O.K. to comp step/rev numbers to get a good idea of what one can expect out of a CPU model and revision. We all do this if you read the OC forums and test labs review. You know you won't get the same OC, but it gives you good hope. In fact, since most test labs get bin picked test modules, I would rather comp the ones run from the PC enthusiast who get the same "off the shelf" part that everybody else gets. This is more of the reality you can go by.
Sony PSP/PS3,
ASUS RAMPAGE II EXTREME(X58) w/ i7 930 DO @ 4.305GHz (205x21 @ 1.323v) 2:8 DDR1680 @ 6-6-6-18
ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME (X48) w/ Q6600 @ 3.81GHz, 422x9 @ DDR1680 6-7-6-20 @ 1.71v
ASUS CROSSHAIR w/ x2 6400+
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AfterDawn Addict
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26. April 2007 @ 23:41 |
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Owning a P5N-E Russ, would you be able to test how hot the chipset heatsink gets? Mine stays in the low 40s usually, maybe higher 40s if I've been playing games for a while with the fans on low. However, the heatsink is so outrageously hot, it has pretty much the same scalding effect as a kettle. Are all P5N-Es like this?
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26. April 2007 @ 23:51 |
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NuckNFuts
You are in the position to do exactly what you're asking everyone else to do.
You have the mobo, so you are in the best position out of everyone to do the testing and find what the optimal settings are, its not easy but someone has to do it.
How do you think that anyone gets systems OC'd in the 1st place, it?s by playing and testing?
I do see your point, that there are more comments and quotes from other sources, than real hands on tips from experience, but that is because this is not the correct forum for serious overclockers to visit.
I would suggest you spend the time looking for better sites where the users are more technical and are inclined to take risks and see OC'ing as a hobby and a challenge rather than something to just dabble with.
There are quite a few good sites, if you PM me I'll give you the details, rather than doing it here.
AD is a very good site for a broad range of topics to be covered in one place but most areas are covered in far more detail in various other dedicated sites.
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26. April 2007 @ 23:53 |
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sammorris,
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Are all P5N-Es like this?
I don't know! Gina's runs almost cold compared to some I've seen and heard about. I didn't even Mod the heat sink. The temp was so low I didn't want to touch it. The heat sink on that MB was very thin and the fins tapered down as they came up. Different from the first and second motherboards. With the Freezer 7 Pro it's about 30C and it hasn't even cured yet! I did put a passive heat sink on the Southbridge just because I had one laying around.
Happy Computering,
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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26. April 2007 @ 23:54 |
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Is this becoming a blog for Gina's PC.
It seems to get mentioned every other post?
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27. April 2007 @ 00:07 |
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BigDK,
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Is this becoming a blog for Gina's PC.
I built it but it's not mine. I'll quit mentioning it. It's just the way Sam asked like it was mine or something. Quote:
Owning a P5N-E Russ, would you be able to test how hot the chipset heatsink gets?
Sam,
Take note I don't own one, just built it. I want to get my new project going. It's been dry here and I suffer from "Dollar Drought" at the moment. Still need memory and video. Then I can proceed!
Best,
theone
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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27. April 2007 @ 00:13 |
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No problem, at least she's happy with it, you obviously did her proud!
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27. April 2007 @ 01:25 |
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Sorry to keep bring it up, but you're someone who I know will have dealt with one. The actual temperature is fine on screen, but the heatsink itself is incredibly hot.
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27. April 2007 @ 01:40 |
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BigDK; "You are in the position to do exactly what you're asking everyone else to do."
"YES" I will, and I have so far. Nobody has asked anything about my ig per say. I have mostly helped with set up questions. I am doing just that, testing my rigs for stability. I am not a "pro" but much like most of us hear just learned a lot as I came along. I have only bean doing this since the 1st days of the Intel Pentium II on the rock solid classic ASUS P2B (still running , for the record). I am happy to share my specs & settings if you'll do the same.
Once again, if you guys get to a OC that you like and feel is stable, then I would like to know the configuration (volts & BIOS settings) to factor into my own testing. Like what volts to move and why you felt you had to up them and how well it ran afterwords. Or the just simply your overall satisfaction and experience with the given mobo in use for you OC.
So regulars and noobz especially, feel free to post or PM and I'll do my best to add to the help forum as it is intended
Sony PSP/PS3,
ASUS RAMPAGE II EXTREME(X58) w/ i7 930 DO @ 4.305GHz (205x21 @ 1.323v) 2:8 DDR1680 @ 6-6-6-18
ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME (X48) w/ Q6600 @ 3.81GHz, 422x9 @ DDR1680 6-7-6-20 @ 1.71v
ASUS CROSSHAIR w/ x2 6400+
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27. April 2007 @ 02:09 |
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sammorris; "Are all P5N-Es like this?"
I own the bigger brother to it as the P5N32-SLI and "YES" they get hot too. Mine came with 2 fans you can clip to the core stacks on the PWR mosfets to add cooling (inteded for use on water cooled rigs where you'd have no airflow here). So I had to add them to keep the NB to below 40c (bk to 36c). The same on CROSSHAIR, I will add the fan to copper core stack to see if it brings down the temp. All my ASUS mobos since the 2nd generation A8N have bean heat pipe cooled. In my opinion, they do not discharge the heat fast enough as could be desighned. Especially on the nVidia, wich already get nice & hot. The material is usually just large aluminum, copper plated or small copper w/ too thick fins & very minimal sink to pipe contact and undersized at that.
Since you need to use the bonus fans to cool (back to the noise we wanted to loose), might as well go back to passive cool with large, dedicated heat pipe cooler for NB chipset w/ tiny fan, mini copper sink w/ fan for SB, & plain copper radiators for mosfets. I even added copper blocks to clock gen and other hot ICs & chips (VGA type used for GDDR chips).
I am in the works of converting a P5W-DH to water just as I now have water blocks for the PWR mosfets and chipsets.
Sony PSP/PS3,
ASUS RAMPAGE II EXTREME(X58) w/ i7 930 DO @ 4.305GHz (205x21 @ 1.323v) 2:8 DDR1680 @ 6-6-6-18
ASUS RAMPAGE EXTREME (X48) w/ Q6600 @ 3.81GHz, 422x9 @ DDR1680 6-7-6-20 @ 1.71v
ASUS CROSSHAIR w/ x2 6400+
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27. April 2007 @ 03:33 |
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I think you'll have a far better experience on the P5WDH, it's a superb OC'er.
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27. April 2007 @ 03:46 |
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Thing is, the heatsink does an ok job, its just one big chunk of metal (so big my cpu heatsink only fits one way round, and thats a small HS), but I'm curious to compare the heat output of the two chipsets, nf4 sli and nf650. that teeny little sink with the fan unplugged ran cooler than this does.
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27. April 2007 @ 07:58 |
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NuckNfuts,
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I own the bigger brother to it as the P5N32-SLI and "YES" they get hot too.
Actually from what I understand the P5N-E is the better overclocker. It's also supposed to be much easier!
Sam,
The heat sink does not get very hot at all. I was very surprised because I expected it to. The one in my P5P800 gets hotter by far! The heat sink on this one is barely warm to the touch. The 2nd MB you could cook hot dogs on! It got that hot, in the 42C range!
Happy Computering,
theone
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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27. April 2007 @ 09:55 |
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29. April 2007 @ 01:39 |
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A new mobo wasnt the best news I could have wanted but hey, at least this way I can upgrade to pc6400 ram aswell as my current mobo only supports 5300.
Ive got cooling in hand now, Ive just got a Themaltake Bach VX vf4000bws because the airflow in std case was limited.
Ive also got a Zalman VF700 vga cooler, also a Thermalright HR-05 Northbridge Cooler which is big but passive, with the option to add a fan if needed.
Ive got a Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro (LGA775) for my cpu but now reading more reviews it seems that this might not be up to the clocking job, does anyone have any experience with this?
Shall I just get water cooling and have done with it....?
Ive been looking in to gigabyte boards, Ive got a budget of £100-£180 max any recomendations?
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29. April 2007 @ 02:22 |
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The DS3 and the DQ6 are the ones I hear being raved about, don't know how they compare to Asus boards though.
What with that kit, one could almost consider you being a quietpc enthusiast like me! The Thermalright HR coolers are monsters, and they often don't require the extra fan. I use my HR-03 on an X1900XT and that runs cooler without the 92mm fan. You just need decent case ventilation.
You'll be fine with a Freezer 7 Pro, I use mine for a 67% overclock, and the temperature is only a problem if i have the fan speed set to minimum, and that wasn't even a problem before I made my graphics card fanless (I currently have it sucking air away from my graphics card, rather than just blowing air from the case past the CPU and out).
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