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GigaMan
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15. July 2004 @ 17:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I would like to purchase a system, or an external drive that will enable copy a dvd movie multiple times at once. For example, if I want to make 4 copies of a dvd movie, but I want to do it all once, where do I purchase such a machine.
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15. July 2004 @ 18:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I would google for "DVD Duplicators" :)



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16. July 2004 @ 19:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
In UK you can buy them from SVP:-

http://www.blankdiscshop.co.uk/acatalog/Hardware_Section__.html

scroll down the list.
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17. July 2004 @ 20:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It's cheaper just to buy 4 burners and put it in a computer. Alcohol 120% supports however many burners as you have. You just need the IDE channels. An extra IDE card is nice to have and quite cheap.
IDE bandwidth seems to be the main resource concern.

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17. July 2004 @ 22:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes except most computers only have space for 2 or 3 drives.
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18. July 2004 @ 00:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Yes except most computers only have space for 2 or 3 drives.
all depends on which case design you have, iv seen towers with no hd bays, only 5 1/4 and you use cages to fit hard drive/floppy etc.

Or you can fill the available 5 1/4 bays then look at buying either external burners (expensive) or internal burner with external case (cheaper than above) that run off usb of firewire

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18. July 2004 @ 13:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
All the popular inexpensive midtowers I buy sport 4 bays for the DVDburners. About 30-40 dollars.
It is the configuration that can get tricky. You can go 2 burners to a cable. It has worked for me in the past. But my prefence is 1 channel per device.

I use multiple burner configuration for home video and pictures I send to relatives. But most of the time I just do one to one movie backups so multiple burners aren't needed.

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18. July 2004 @ 16:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   

Here's a little more to add to the equation. I like to monitor my encodes and burns with the Task Manager-Performance read-out. I have a P2.66 w/512 DDR. Encoding takes 100% CPU, with total system memory requirements up to 85% of the 512 MB. Burning, however, is a lot less, and rarely peaks at 25% CPU. Memory usage is about 50MB over system requirements (100 MB).

So, given a P2.6 w/256MB, I think that anything OVER 4 burners working in tandem might slow things down. The CPU is going to pull 70+ watts alone, and so a 450+ power supply would be essential. There was no mention of burning on-the-fly, however, I thing this approach would tax resources too much.

In line with 64026402's approach, I would opt to put the HDD on one channel by itself, 2 DVD drives on the secondary channel, and 2 more drives with an IDE card.



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18. July 2004 @ 18:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This is all trying to pull rabbits from hats. If you want to duplicate more than one disc in one go you need a DVD duplicator tower with the required burners - no problems then with IDE cables CPU or memory, not to mention all the frustration and possible system crashes.

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18. July 2004 @ 18:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You make a good point. Why re-invent the wheel??? Here's a $900 5-drive unit on ebay. At 8X, it produces 5 DVD's in 10 to 15 minutes with Pioneer burners.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31509&item=5108711540&rd=1



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18. July 2004 @ 19:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
A duplicator still has to have the components, cost a lot more and has very limited function for the money.
You can still have problems burning just like any setup.
If your not good with computers then a duplicator might be cost effective. Otherwise they are a waste.



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19. July 2004 @ 04:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
.....except if it doesn't work as advertised you put it back in the box and get your money back, unlike messing with a computer.
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19. July 2004 @ 07:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well ... I have been building my own systems for years now. You know, a motherboard here, a CPU there, etc. What I am wondering is if there is something "extra" that a duplicator manufacturer does or has that is beyond the ordinary guy like me?

As far as things not working ... it was computer problems, and learning how to fix them, that eventualy gave me the knowledge I needed to build my own systems.
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19. July 2004 @ 07:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Excellent - I agree it's fine if you know what you're doing.
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19. July 2004 @ 08:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I wasn't very clear. I don't know what I don't know, if that makes sense? Is there anything more to it than needing to know how to install the drivers for the IDE card, and having the right software? The reason I ask, is if you read the advertising the duplicator folks put out, it sounds like they have something "special" in addition to the norm.


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19. July 2004 @ 14:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Don't get me wrong. I have looked at the duplicators but they are just out of my range moneywise.
I don't think they are special but I figure they should copy unencrypted dvd-5s quite well.

You can do multi-burn as easy as adding a second burner and using the Nero full version. But past 2 drives it may require more effort because of the bandwidth requirements. 8x burning is even more demanding. Nero full supports 2. Although you can buy additional support. But alcohol 120% does 4 no problem.

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26. August 2004 @ 13:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I realize this thread has been "unreplied" to for a bit... but I thought I'd add this anyway... I am needed to add another DVD burner to my system {as described at end} for some projects which await urgent attention, so after reading quite a few posts in various forums.. I'm going to "take the dive" and jump in, purchase the burner, and get Alcohol 120%.. I'll let you know what happens.. =)


{Currently I have a computer setup with RAID cards; the computer could accomodate 2 DVD burners - each on separate IDE cables (to avoid errors). The current system OS drive is also a separate HD, on a completely separate cable. I already have the first DVD burner and have burnt numerous movie DVDs with this computer with great success [1.8G P4 1.12G RAM w/ WinXP pro].

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wow... OK -- now everyone knows I'm a newbie with the way those quotes look.. I thought they meant "quotes" not those gigantic things... oops =P so much for finding a PREVIEW option for new messages... oh well, eat the humble pie Mike...
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26. August 2004 @ 13:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   

No prob. If you want to edit your post, click on the icon on the light brown bar to the right of "Report an offensive post." It looks like a pencil and pad to me. :)


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mss71ny
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20. September 2004 @ 17:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sorry for the delay - to whomever may have been interested / waiting...

At first I purchased a I/O Magic DVD burner (+/- R&RW) but it seemed to be too slow - which puzzled me... my older NEC (Verbatim) +R/+RW burner would go up to around 2.0x but when I added the I/O Magic to the equasion it (they) dropped all the way down to 0.6 - 0.8x burns (avg).

So I then purchased a Pioneer 107 burner and have had that for little over a week. It seems to do much better than the I/O Magic. Now both burners seem to keep pace with each other quite well. I've saved numerous reports (from the Alcohol 120% software) and can post some of those if anyone is interested.

Again - I am very happy with the Alcohol 120% software. I've made / burnt probably around 250 DVDs using it - and maybe had 2 coasters out of the whole lot... not bad in my book!!

If anyone can reply as to some ideas on how I can boost the burn times / speeds I'd appreciate it! THANKS!!
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