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What gives better quality ?
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3. March 2010 @ 01:44 |
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I know how to backup my dvd movies. I just don't know which method produces a better quality. I Have tried ripping with Dvdfab and then compressing them with Dvd Shrink( removing unused languages and subs)to dvd5. I have also used dvdfab to compress the whole disc to dvd5 without removing anything. I don't really notice any difference between the original and the backups that I have made, but some of my friends say that the ones compressed with dvdfab don't look as good compared to to the ones done with dvd shrink. Is it possible that shrinking with dvd shrink( removing unused subs and languages) creates a better copy ?
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3. March 2010 @ 09:47 |
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I haven't used DVD Shrink in ages because of Nero Recode and DVD-Rebuilder Pro. I only use DVDFab 6 to rip and the rest are done with either Nero Recode 3 or DVD-Rebuilder Pro.
For transcoding engine: I have Nero Recode 3 set to "Assign Best Quality To Main Movie + Advanced Analysis + High Quality Mode."
For encoding: I use DVD-Rebuilder Pro + CCE SP
I have 2 HDTVs (37" VIZIO & 42" VIZIO both are true 1080P LCD HDTV) and my backups looks awesome.
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mayra123
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4. March 2010 @ 05:05 |
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JUST A NOTE. i have never used dvdrb, because it takes wayyyyyyyyy too long to do its job, i think nero recode is just as good and takes less time also
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4. March 2010 @ 12:38 |
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There's a difference between "encoder" and "transcoder" and you know that right? DVD-Rebuilder Pro = encoder. For any 2 hrs plus movies, I'll have DVD-Rebuilder Pro do the job.
Yes.. for shorter movies (i.e. 90 mins), I prefer Nero Recode 3 over DVD Shrink any day, Nero Recode is much faster and produces better quality in my opinion especially when using "Assign Best Quality To Main Movie + Advanced Analysis + High Quality Mode."
NOTE: Depends on your computer specs, but for me Recode is anywhere from 8 mins -> 20 mins and DVD-Rebuilder Pro is 50 mins -> 90 mins.
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mayra123
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4. March 2010 @ 21:45 |
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actually. shorter movies of 90 minutes, which is one and a half hours. should not need any compression at all, being that a blank dvdr can hold 2 hours of non compressed video. i think dvdrb needs to be revamped. i mean. who wants to wait 4 or 5 hours to process a dvd file. and imagine the stress that puts on the cpu. i think for movies that need no compression really, clone dvd 2 and any dvd are the best solutions, and for larger movies, example, titanic , casino etc, use nero recode, on high quality setting. i have done both, and they came out really nice. hardly any pixelation at all
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5. March 2010 @ 04:02 |
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Originally posted by mayra123:
actually. shorter movies of 90 minutes, which is one and a half hours. should not need any compression at all, being that a blank dvdr can hold 2 hours of non compressed video.
It's not that simple. It doesn't matter if a movie's running time is less than two hours when the actual video files are greater than the size of a single layer disc.
Originally posted by mayra123:
i think dvdrb needs to be revamped. i mean. who wants to wait 4 or 5 hours to process a dvd file. and imagine the stress that puts on the cpu.
People who want better quality are the ones who wait, though 4 or 5 hours (for me) is an encoding time i haven't had to do in about 3 years now, since i went Quad Core (my main machine before that was an AMD Athlon 2800 and DVD-RB did indeed take 5 hours for main movie mode on that machine. On the Quad (Q6600) main movie mode now takes approx 45mins and a full disc episodic only takes an hour.
As to stress on the CPU, that's what they were designed for, it's just common sense to have sufficient cooling for the CPU and the rest of the machine..
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mayra123
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5. March 2010 @ 06:57 |
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ok maybe i am wrong about the stress on the cpu, but i think that any good dvd program, ex. recode , shrink, clone dvd 2, or even dvd x copy platinum with the older movies, can produce really good results, with high quality. without that long of a wait. i would like to see an updated dvd shrink that can copy without leaving permanent files on my computer, but i dont think that will happen being that its creator, i read works for nero making the recode program
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5. March 2010 @ 08:55 |
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What are the "permanent files" that Shrink leaves on your computer...
As for the quality...is all in the eyes o the beholder...
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mayra123
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6. March 2010 @ 02:54 |
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the permanent files are the ones left after you encode the movie file, the one that is the right size to burn to disc. dvd shrink has no option to delete temporary files after burning.
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mayra123
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6. March 2010 @ 03:15 |
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i forgot to add that as soon as you are done burning these files, you can delete them manually. also if you look in my documents , under dvd shrink you find small files left there also by dvds. that are there so if you copy the same dvd again, you will not have to analize the whole dvd again.
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6. March 2010 @ 06:15 |
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mayra123
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6. March 2010 @ 11:53 |
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i think it is better to delete them. lees junk on your pc, the better it runs, besides, how many times are you going to copy the same movie. maybe twice , at most.
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6. March 2010 @ 12:00 |
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I think it makes no difference either way. The size is close to nothing, and has nothing to do with the way the system runs. If it bothers you much, just delete them once a month...whatever...
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6. March 2010 @ 12:01 |
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Originally posted by cyprusrom:
I think it makes no difference either way. The size is close to nothing, and has nothing to do with the way the system runs.
Absolutely. Years worth of these files makes zero difference to anything.
Originally posted by mayra123:
how many times are you going to copy the same movie. maybe twice , at most.
But this is quite true, it's just that the files cause no problems at all
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mayra123
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6. March 2010 @ 18:01 |
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i also wanted to ask which ripper is better. any dvd ripper or dvd fab decrypter. when i rip with any dvd from slysoft i find it gives me bad results sometimes, also dvd fab seems to give faulty rips also at times. then i have to use vob blanker which seems like a waste of time for me. because i dont see what diffrence it makes.right now is use clone dvd and any dvd together using the physical dvd disc, and also dvd x copy platinum, which still can copy many movies, even if it has not been updated in years, and quality is excellent. is it really worth ripping a dvd to hard drive?and having to delete all the time and having to defrag a hard drive all the time, or just use the disc only compress, and burn and get it over with?
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6. March 2010 @ 18:26 |
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I thought that there was a problem with nero rencode( something about it causing the movies to skip chapters and not play right)? I have nero 9 and Im just woundering what the difference between dvd shrink and nero rencode. Ive never used nero Rencode to shrink dvd movies, I have only used dvd shrink.
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6. March 2010 @ 18:31 |
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Nero recode is dvd shrink,the guy that made shrink now works on nero recode as they managed to get their hands on it,i think their was a legal wrangle a little while ago from the mafia that's why recode doesn't rip like shrink did.
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9. March 2010 @ 02:01 |
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Originally posted by keebles:
I thought that there was a problem with nero rencode( something about it causing the movies to skip chapters and not play right)? I have nero 9 and Im just woundering what the difference between dvd shrink and nero rencode. Ive never used nero Rencode to shrink dvd movies, I have only used dvd shrink.
If you have Nero 9 (with Nero Recode) why not use it? It's newer and its engine is faster. Basically, DVD Shrink and Nero Recode is the same (from the same guy), except DVD Shrink has not been updated in ages and Recode updates regularly.
[[[[ To make a long story short ]]]]
<> rip movie with DVDFab 7 (it's free)
<> transcode with Nero Recode
<> burn with ImgBurn or your desire burning engine.
NOTE: when using Nero Recode, use these settings: "Assign Best Quality To Main Movie + Advanced Analysis + High Quality Mode."
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9. March 2010 @ 14:56 |
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Originally posted by mayra123:
As to stress on the CPU, that's what they were designed for, it's just common sense to have sufficient cooling for the CPU and the rest of the machine..
I found an old ARTEC DHI-G40 -- stricly for reading as a ROM
GOOGLE that in - It'll take you to the manufacturers website. Right about 2-3 inches down the page it states that it expected use without failure is rated at 100,000 hours. I don't know about you, but I certainly feel that - that is a whole lot of DVD's!
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mayra123
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9. March 2010 @ 21:44 |
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i want to find out if slysoft any dvd can be used with dvd decrypter.i used it a few times, got some conflicts in some rips, in others i did not.
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9. March 2010 @ 21:49 |
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Originally posted by mayra123:
i want to find out if slysoft any dvd can be used with dvd decrypter.i used it a few times, got some conflicts in some rips, in others i did not.
You probably can, you just need to set-up DVD Decrypter properly. Why would you even want to do that?
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10. March 2010 @ 02:43 |
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Originally posted by mayra123:
i want to find out if slysoft any dvd can be used with dvd decrypter.i used it a few times, got some conflicts in some rips, in others i did not.
Hi !
2 programs that do the same thing sometimes they interfere with each other.....that's why you need to turn off the one you are not gonna use.
How:
In the bottom of your PC you have the, small programs icons.....Right !?
Right click it and select EXIT is all !!!
Good luck !!!
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10. March 2010 @ 10:13 |
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Originally posted by Mrguss:
Originally posted by mayra123:
i want to find out if slysoft any dvd can be used with dvd decrypter.i used it a few times, got some conflicts in some rips, in others i did not.
Hi !
2 programs that do the same thing sometimes they interfere with each other.....that's why you need to turn off the one you are not gonna use.
How:
In the bottom of your PC you have the, small programs icons.....Right !?
Right click it and select EXIT is all !!!
Good luck !!!
Then you are left with one program running...the point of the question was to use both at the same time.
I guess DVD Decrypter has some features like stream processing that someone might want to use.
To use it in conjunction with AnyDVD, you need to change 2 settings in DVD Decrypter:
1.) Use ElbyCDIO as the I/O model.
2.) Disable the structural protection removal in DVDDecrypter.
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10. March 2010 @ 20:18 |
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Originally posted by cyprusrom:
Then you are left with one program running...the point of the question was to use both at the same time.
I guess DVD Decrypter has some features like stream processing that someone might want to use.
To use it in conjunction with AnyDVD, you need to change 2 settings in DVD Decrypter:
1.) Use ElbyCDIO as the I/O model.
2.) Disable the structural protection removal in DVDDecrypter.
If I tell you the real truth....I never been use Any DVD at all.
DVDFab alone do a great Job for me.
Hope this help you.
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mayra123
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10. March 2010 @ 20:55 |
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thanks guys for the info, but actually, dvd decrypter and any dvd, DO NOT do the same thing. any dvd is a driver that automatically removes copy protections on a dvd movie, therefore, windows and any dvd program see that dvd as unprotected, dvd decrypter is exclusively a ripper and an image burner. i know any dvd has a ripper feature also, but that is not its main purpose. by the way, is the any dvd ripper good and reliable?
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