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mandyy
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19. January 2011 @ 08:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi, my son updated his console today as it was mandatory and he was eager to go on CoD and now its impossible for him to play any backup game, he can still access all of my xbox live features, but any backup games he puts into the xbox it reads them, but wont allow any them to run.

is there anything i can do to sort it for him...

thanks
mandy
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19. January 2011 @ 08:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by mandyy:
Hi, my son updated his console today as it was mandatory and he was eager to go on CoD and now its impossible for him to play any backup game, he can still access all of my xbox live features, but any backup games he puts into the xbox it reads them, but wont allow any them to run.

is there anything i can do to sort it for him...

thanks
mandy
I'm trying to find out about this update too, I didn't accept it and thank goodness from what you're saying.

Do you know what mod he's using for the 360? If it's firmware what version does he have (LT+ etc)?

I'm sure there'll be a a s*** storm here any minute with people discussing it.

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mandyy
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19. January 2011 @ 08:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
that's what i told my son.. even if we can't get his oxbox sorted at least we can let others know before the same happens to anyone else...

he said it was a sneaky little update that was only meant to put (boot from starting feature) on it


this is the exact wording

"On Wednesday, January 19, an update will re-enable the 'Boot to Disc' option. It'll allow you to set the option in System Settings to boot to the Xbox 360 dashboard or straight to the game in the tray when you power up your console.

mandy

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19. January 2011 @ 08:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by mandyy:
that's what i told my son.. even if we can't get his oxbox sorted at least we can let others know before the same happens to anyone else...

he said it was a sneaky little update that was only meant to put (boot from starting feature) on it


mandy
Glad you did, good effort :)

I just read it's only affecting Call Of Duty Black Ops and Halo Reach for most people, has he tried any other games? Is he using a Jtag xbox 360?

Hopefully it is limited to certain drives and mods etc
mandyy
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19. January 2011 @ 08:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The two that he tried were Modern Warfare 2 and Black Ops ... He just tried Dragonball: Raging Blast and Borderlands and said they work fine..

i'm thinking they might work fine for now.. but if they have somehow blocked some games i'm sure the rest will follow

mandy
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19. January 2011 @ 09:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by mandyy:
The two that he tried were Modern Warfare 2 and Black Ops ... He just tried Dragonball: Raging Blast and Borderlands and said they work fine..

i'm thinking they might work fine for now.. but if they have somehow blocked some games i'm sure the rest will follow

mandy
Seems that what's most people are thinking. Looks like we'll all have to wait for more info and a comment from c4e
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19. January 2011 @ 11:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Rule of thumb
stay off live, do not accept the update, and wait and be patient

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19. January 2011 @ 11:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yep. Looks like 3 games so far. See here:

http://www.pothsprojects.com/viewtopic.php?f=121&t=2928
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19. January 2011 @ 11:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by thps4eva:
Originally posted by mandyy:
that's what i told my son.. even if we can't get his oxbox sorted at least we can let others know before the same happens to anyone else...

he said it was a sneaky little update that was only meant to put (boot from starting feature) on it


mandy
Glad you did, good effort :)

I just read it's only affecting Call Of Duty Black Ops and Halo Reach for most people, has he tried any other games? Is he using a Jtag xbox 360?

Hopefully it is limited to certain drives and mods etc
THANKS ALOT MANDY!!! although, once i see an update, i dont accept it unless i fully research the update. i KNEW they were gonna pull this AFTER x-mas after they made their money from the NEW console/kinect!!! i KNEW IT!!!! and my XBL JUST expired on 1/18/11. i prolly wouldnt've have thought twice if i wasnt expired.....wait, yeah i would've....^_^

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19. January 2011 @ 12:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
AP2.5 checks are updated for those few games which makes sense as they are the most popular. Those with LT are being banned (xval failing). Those with LT+ are not.

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=727227
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19. January 2011 @ 12:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
damn that blows
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19. January 2011 @ 12:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Modking30:
Yep. Looks like 3 games so far. See here:

http://www.pothsprojects.com/viewtopic.php?f=121&t=2928
Add Assassin creed 2 to the list
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19. January 2011 @ 13:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by carjen:
Originally posted by Modking30:
Yep. Looks like 3 games so far. See here:

http://www.pothsprojects.com/viewtopic.php?f=121&t=2928
Add Assassin creed 2 to the list
ac has ap2.5 patched so it should work anyone care to test,i dont have my copy only original


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19. January 2011 @ 14:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by bhetrick:
AP2.5 checks are updated for those few games which makes sense as they are the most popular. Those with LT are being banned (xval failing). Those with LT+ are not.

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=727227
So... AP25 is in the system now? Is that why abgx won't pick up AP on those games?

Looks like at least another month of no Live for the flashed consoles anyway.
carjen
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19. January 2011 @ 14:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by infam0us:
Originally posted by carjen:
Originally posted by Modking30:
Yep. Looks like 3 games so far. See here:

http://www.pothsprojects.com/viewtopic.php?f=121&t=2928
Add Assassin creed 2 to the list
ac has ap2.5 patched so it should work anyone care to test,i dont have my copy only original
where do you get the patch from? sorry, new to this stuff
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19. January 2011 @ 14:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by infam0us:
Originally posted by carjen:
Originally posted by Modking30:
Yep. Looks like 3 games so far. See here:

http://www.pothsprojects.com/viewtopic.php?f=121&t=2928
Add Assassin creed 2 to the list
ac has ap2.5 patched so it should work anyone care to test,i dont have my copy only original

That's Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood. Maybe that's what carjen means though. Assassin's Creed 2 was not previously affected by AP2.5 and there is no patch for it.

carjen - If you meant AC: Brotherhood, just rip your backup with ImgBurn, run it through the latest version of abgx360, which will patch it, then burn the image back to a disc. You'll need LT+ for it to work.
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19. January 2011 @ 15:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
carjen
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19. January 2011 @ 15:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by funksoulb:
Originally posted by infam0us:
Originally posted by carjen:
Originally posted by Modking30:
Yep. Looks like 3 games so far. See here:

http://www.pothsprojects.com/viewtopic.php?f=121&t=2928
Add Assassin creed 2 to the list
ac has ap2.5 patched so it should work anyone care to test,i dont have my copy only original

That's Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood. Maybe that's what carjen means though. Assassin's Creed 2 was not previously affected by AP2.5 and there is no patch for it.

carjen - If you meant AC: Brotherhood, just rip your backup with ImgBurn, run it through the latest version of abgx360, which will patch it, then burn the image back to a disc. You'll need LT+ for it to work.
yes I did mean brotherhood, sorry about that. I will try what you said.
carjen
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19. January 2011 @ 15:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by funksoulb:
Originally posted by infam0us:
Originally posted by carjen:
Originally posted by Modking30:
Yep. Looks like 3 games so far. See here:

http://www.pothsprojects.com/viewtopic.php?f=121&t=2928
Add Assassin creed 2 to the list
ac has ap2.5 patched so it should work anyone care to test,i dont have my copy only original

That's Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood. Maybe that's what carjen means though. Assassin's Creed 2 was not previously affected by AP2.5 and there is no patch for it.

carjen - If you meant AC: Brotherhood, just rip your backup with ImgBurn, run it through the latest version of abgx360, which will patch it, then burn the image back to a disc. You'll need LT+ for it to work.
what is LT +?
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19. January 2011 @ 15:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
LT+ is the latest dvd drive firmware.
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19. January 2011 @ 16:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So does anyone know if it's firmware related? Such as is LT and LT+ vulnerable and LT+1.1 safe? Is it the other way around? Or some other combination.

(I'm posting from an Android phone, so I can't search all the threads if this has been answered already).


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19. January 2011 @ 16:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by eebeejay:
So does anyone know if it's firmware related? Such as is LT and LT+ vulnerable and LT+1.1 safe? Is it the other way around? Or some other combination.

(I'm posting from an Android phone, so I can't search all the threads if this has been answered already).
No. It's ap25 related.

The Xbox update has added more ap25 checks for more games. So backups of those games which haven't been previously patched with ap25 won't boot. They now have to be re-burnt with the ap25 patch.
hereeny
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19. January 2011 @ 16:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Is there a way to patch the games with AP25? I guess AGBX doesnt do it?
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19. January 2011 @ 17:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=727227&st=105\
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Hope this helps I'm on a hitachi 59 drive with lt+ I can get on to black ops fine but have noticed that when I go from game to dashboard back into game it black screens for about 3-4 secs it seems longer than when I first load the xbox up I'm probably thinking its still working because the older hitachi's don have ap2.5.
http://www.ixtreme.net/lt-lite-touch/new-dash-update-19-01-11-t7594-40.html
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Ok so ive got a hitachi 79 with lt+ which ive used as my guinea pig for about 3 years now so god knows how it aint banned but its not :D so i fort sod it il update and so i did it and with todays dash update it still boots my backup of cod: black ops and plays it fine and ive checked my xval about 5 times and still says secdata is clean.. am i just lucky or have other 79 users had success too?

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I also have a hitachi 79 and I an online with black ops. And the other games reported not working are working for me :D

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Here is a bit of info... I have an Hitachi v47 drive with Lt+1.1 I updated to the new dashboard and all my games are working just fine including BO MW2.


Can anyone else who has updated their dash with an older hitachi confirm black ops still boots?

edit: just updated my 59dj, black ops boots online.

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19. January 2011 @ 17:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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[2011-01-19 08:25PM UTC] #fw <c4eva> hello, looking into new dash,more soon

-from c4eva in irc

Well, I think the microsoft coders are back from holiday. Looks like it's time to play ball again.

"All drives should be updated to Lite Touch + (LT+) firmware if playing on XBOX live. Samsung drives and pre-78/79 Hitachi drives do not utilize AP 2.5. All other drives are considered to be detectable by Microsoft (YMMV). Make sure all rips are ABGX verified, contain SSv2, and patched AP2.5 (where needed). XGD3 must currently be burned on new drive with PC Burner Max firmware for 100% rip. All modded consoles can be potentially unsafe for use on XBOX live."
 
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