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That isn't true and why you can't upgrade your video card because of the CPU is just lame. You can add any video card to any CPU given the card slot permits.

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We don't know what Bulldozer is going to do yet and if you are talking gaming the most important piece is your video card as most games don't task the CPU hard but do task the GPU.

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And then on top of that if you are online gaming another limit is your bandwidth of your highspeed connection.

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AMD will still be much cheaper than Intel solutions and will still give you bang for the buck but if your going to calculate silt build up in a river or even want to transcode video the Intel is going to do a better job, it will just cost a fair amount more.

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Originally posted by omegaman7:

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LOL! Yah, he said the rear end was maxed. It won't let him do more than 90 - 95 mph.
I believe it is a dual feed holly :) He doesn't like it though. He says it's finicky.

He also had a 73 grand am. He loved that car. So did I. He called it georgia for whatever reason.

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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:

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I wasn't going to pick on him about that Russ as he stated it better in the second half of his paragraph.

I still don't buy it though as his general statements speak otherwise but we will let him ride this time.

Sam is smart has has good worth with most of his feedback so you got to give him some slack... :P

Stevo :D

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Originally posted by Estuansis:

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Now I can personally vouch for the Nvidia failure rate. They're terrible. But just had to mention they have put out good designs in the past. G92 is probably one of the best video card architectures ever designed.

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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:

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That isn't true and why you can't upgrade your video card because of the CPU is just lame. You can add any video card to any CPU given the card slot permits.

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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:

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Pings are directly related to bandwidth, when you ping a network/internet address you are measuring response time between the host and you. The host is a factor as well as bandwidth.

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Originally posted by Estuansis:

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Just for the record my Q6600 has been holding 3.7GHz for 3-4 years without a hitch. CBA to find a purchase date but it has been holding the same clock at the same voltage since new. Also it has been Folding@Home more than half of that time. So not only has it held its clock beautifully, it has been under one of the most strenuous torture tests there is for the majority of it. AND IT'S ON AIR.

Also, for the record, the 8800GTS has been running F@H too, and still works just fine. So much for the G92 failure rate... though my own cooling mods might have had something to do with it as well. Come to think of it, the only cards I haven't felt the need to re-TIM have been my 6850s. Thank you XFX for the vapor chamber coolers :D

Now I can personally vouch for the Nvidia failure rate. They're terrible. But just had to mention they have put out good designs in the past. G92 is probably one of the best video card architectures ever designed.

I don't know what the future holds for Bulldozer, and I don't know if I'll be buying one. Rather disappointed in AMD to say the least. It's been years now and we're still waiting for a solid performance increase. Phenom II quads are still adequate for most gaming and whatnot, but I can't make a graphics upgrade without a new CPU. It's as black and white as that. Regretfully, I don't think my next CPU will be an AMD. Phenom II was barely worth getting for me and even then it was a side-grade to my already aging Intel at the time. Bulldozer is way too little, years too late. I simply can't continue to buy AMD if they can't put out a better CPU. Bulldozer was it for them, there is no ace up AMD's sleeve. AMD had a chance to sweep the market by storm and seem to have missed it. And it's not like they can blame the manufacturing process. Intel is currently using the same Global Foundries factories and process to produce chips.

I fall into the growing category of AMD users that simply can't buy on value alone anymore. It doesn't matter how good a deal it is if it isn't any good.

I'm willing to be patient, and see the full picture before making my final judgement, but it seems like AMD just pulled a Fermi.

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Originally posted by theonejrs:

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Sam,

Take a look at the chip lineup on your graph. Look at all the crap they show for AMD cpus. A 3.0GHz Phenom IIx4 940 BE, an obsolete chip, not even produced anymore. Then there's another obsolete, no longer produced chip in the 2.6GHz Athlon IIx4 620, and yet another in the Phenom IIx2 550! There seems to be a little bias towards Intel, but I'm sure you won't find anything wrong with the way they've done things though. All Intel chips shown are modern except for the Q9550 and the E8400. Where's the Phenom IIx4s, x3s, and x2s? Where's the 1090T BE, which is a better all around chip than the 1100T BE?

Then there's the motherboards. They chose an obsolete GIGABYTE GA-MA790GP-DS4H AM2+/AM2 AMD 790GX with DDR2 to test the AMDs, but chose a more modern P55-GD55 motherboard with DDR3 to test the Intels. But it's a fair example, right? Not by a long shot! Get rid of all the junk and give us an honest showing next time!

Russ

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Testing
To test the AMD processors we used the Asus Crosshair V Formula motherboard which is based on the AMD 990FX chipset and Socket AM3+ CPU socket.

For the Intel LGA1155 processors, we used the Asus Maximus IV Gene-Z and for the LGA1336 processors, we used the Asus Sabertooth X58. All three motherboards have proved to be excellent overclockers, and yet cost a reasonable amount, so are great options for everyday PCs running overclocked CPUs

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http://techreport.com/articles.x/21813/5

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Originally posted by HardOCP:

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http://hardocp.com/article/2011/10/11/amd_bulldozer_fx8150_desktop_performance_review/3

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