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12. January 2011 @ 11:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   


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..just right click and format it (if it's supposed to be blank of course) :)



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You haven't formatted it! Go into disk management and format the drive (You have to do this with any new drive)



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normally when windows see's a drive it ask you to format it. well at least with the last 3 i have done. it didnt give me that option. i have it now though with a little searching around i found the info needed.

and i did choose the quick format. that is all that was needed right? i remember you all saying that was fine for useing it as a storage drive.

and now i got some file transfering to do..lol

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Quickformat is fine, full format is only necessary if you suspect a fault with the drive, and want to check the disk surface.
Typically windows will only ask you if you wish to format a new drive if it is hotplugged, with the system switched on (e.g. an external drive being connected). If it's there from before the system was powered on, it often doesn't ask.



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have to partition it 1st before you can format it.
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So you have a 40Gb ssd sam. And you say the difference is night and day. How would you say it handles multiple i/o operations? I'm not sure whats going on with my second velociraptor now. I'm hoping it's the sata cable. At the very least, I'll reseat it tonight, when I open up both of my cases for routine blowout, and insertion of a new drive.
I've been experiencing brief lockups. Generally only with firefox. But I find it very curious because, when the lockup ceases, I hear the harddrive begin working again. Like something was holding it back. Sometimes when I'm typing, the system isn't keeping up. But then it is, and I hear the drive begin to work again. Weird stuff....

I'd like to get an SSD. 40Gb isn't gonna cut it though :p I'm currently selling stuff on ebay, so I can make this upgrade. What would be the best drive I could get for ~200 USD, and have at least 100Gb of space?

All opinions welcome of course ;)



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Originally posted by omegaman7:
So you have a 40Gb ssd sam. And you say the difference is night and day. How would you say it handles multiple i/o operations? I'm not sure whats going on with my second velociraptor now. I'm hoping it's the sata cable. At the very least, I'll reseat it tonight, when I open up both of my cases for routine blowout, and insertion of a new drive.
I've been experiencing brief lockups. Generally only with firefox. But I find it very curious because, when the lockup ceases, I hear the harddrive begin working again. Like something was holding it back. Sometimes when I'm typing, the system isn't keeping up. But then it is, and I hear the drive begin to work again. Weird stuff....

I'd like to get an SSD. 40Gb isn't gonna cut it though :p I'm currently selling stuff on ebay, so I can make this upgrade. What would be the best drive I could get for ~200 USD, and have at least 100Gb of space?

All opinions welcome of course ;)
Oman7,
This is as close as you can get for $200. It's 90GB can't do a 100GB for under $200 at the moment. Not in as fast a drive

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227611

There's also one from Corsair, but it's MTBF is only half that of the 2,000,000 hours of the OCZ!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233149

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IOPs are tenfold better than mechanical drives.
I'm avoiding recommending OCZs now due to the failure rates. RMAs are about 1% for Intels, around 5-6% and lots of them are failing mid-term around the 6 month period. Not ideal.



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really sam? Ouch to ocz, esp after leaving the ram market. Is it the controller?



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It probably is, in fairness, as the corsairs, G-Skills etc. also got similarly poor scores. Note that on newegg most SSDs get 4 eggs, the Intels get 5.



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I have a feeling I'm gonna need to spend a little more on an Intel.

Thanks guys :)



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I have a feeling that this one is what I'm gonna land with.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167035
Hopefully, the order won't get mucked up this time LOL! Last time, they sent me a 1.8" drive!



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Originally posted by omegaman7:
I have a feeling I'm gonna need to spend a little more on an Intel.

Thanks guys :)
Oman7,
Check this one out then. Same 5 eggs as the Intel!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227601

800,000 more hours in MTBF! Better overall rating from newegg too! No 2.5" to 3.5" adapter though! $189

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15. January 2011 @ 20:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Mmm hmm, not too bad at all russ. I'm strongly gonna consider that one. Much faster write rate. 2 of those in Raid 0 would be phenomenal! ;)(On the sata 6.0Gb port of course...



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I will vouch for Vertex2.

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I've been using a mere 70gb of my Veloci for a few months now. Perhaps 90Gb will suffice for now. Until I can buy another, and then raid them. Or maybe not even raid, just use it for program/game installs and such ;)



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Yeah the OCZs are much faster drives than the Intels, though you will never notice this difference in the real world.



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Originally posted by sammorris:
though you will never notice this difference in the real world.
Good thing i still live in my make-believe world constructed with my imaginary friends as a child.

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Originally posted by Deadrum33:
Originally posted by sammorris:
though you will never notice this difference in the real world.
Good thing i still live in my make-believe world constructed with my imaginary friends as a child.
LOL! Well...I definitely like knowing that the throughput is very good if not the best. In a month or two, when I'm ready to buy one, reviews and pricing should speak for themselves ;)



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My 30GB Vertex was too small for a Hackintosh partition so i just reinstalled everything to a WD10EADS. It was painful having to revert to mechanical drive for an OS. The feel of Snow Leopard with that drive is nearly as good (except for boot) as that 1st generation Vertex, and now i have an old SSD as scratch disk for my attempts at self-taught audio/video editing.

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i would say wait for the 3rd gen 25nm intel, curcial 2nd gen crucial and 2nd gen sandforce drives.



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Think it's worth it eh? You're probably right. They are due for another release.

25nm? Wow, that's getting pretty friggin small! Impressive stuff.



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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Think it's worth it eh? You're probably right. They are due for another release.

25nm? Wow, that's getting pretty friggin small! Impressive stuff.
Oman7,
Look at it this way. Even if the price is way up there, the price of the Vertex2's will come down! LOL!!

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A little Cinebench-based CPU benchmark of how Sandy Bridge stacks up against Bloomfield and AMD's latest hex-core. A few (but not a complete set of) overclocking results mixed in there too.
AMD Athlon II X6 1100T: Per-core: 1000 Total: 6000
Core i5 2500K: Per-core: 1380 Total: 5520
Core i7 875K: Per-core: 1410 Total: 5640
Core i5 655K: Per-core: 1435 Total: 2870
Core i7 980X: Per-core: 1510 Total: 9060
Core i7 920->3.6Ghz: Per-core: 1585 Total: 6340
Core i5 2500K->4.3Ghz: Per-core: 1735 Total: 6940
Core i7 2600K: Per-core: 1750 Total: 7000
Core i7 980X->4.4Ghz: Per-core: 1900 Total: 11,400
Core i7 2600K->4.4Ghz: Per-core: 2190 Total: 8760

An overclocked i7 980X manages a 90% gain over the X6 1100T at stock. An impressive result, but OC vs. OC it'll likely be more like 60%, which ain't much for a 270% price markup :P Still, as best of the best without a budget goes, the 980X is totally without compare, for now.
Interestingly, the i5 2500K, which does not contain any of the i7 enhancements for multimedia benches, comes quite close to the X6, and is actually $45 cheaper. It will also overclock considerably more than the AMD hex.
The older LGA1156 i7s fare fairly well here as they do have hyper-threading, which allows the once quite pricey 875 to come at 94% of the X6 at stock.
A small overclock, plus all the benefits of a true LGA1366 i7 allow the 920 at 3.6Ghz to surpass the X6.
The i7 2600K is an absolute monster of a quad. Stock it's 17% beyond the X6 1100T, and when overclocked reaches a massive 46% advantage. At a very reasonable $330, it's by far the best CPU for workstations right now. 5Ghz overclocks are far from unheard of, with 4.7-4.8Ghz on the beefed up (albeit extremely loud) stock cooler it's provided with,



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