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14. March 2011 @ 19:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I usually turn off indexing and hibernation right after a reformat. I never hibernate my PC so why waste space and CPU cycles to maintain a file as large as my 8GB of RAM? Also indexing is basically useless if using an SSD because of the sheer speed. I simply turn it off on my mechanical drives to save wear and CPU cycles.



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14. March 2011 @ 21:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Estuansis:
Also indexing is basically useless if using an SSD because of the sheer speed. I simply turn it off on my mechanical drives to save wear and CPU cycles.
Also true. Indexing, prefetch, superfetch and other accelerators are recommended turned off by manufacturer of the OCZ and Intel SSD's.

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I do indeed still use Superfetch. That is one feature I have found to be truly useful on mechanical drives. My PC never seems to bog down with it on, but with it off, certain programs take forever to open. I'm sure it's a different story with SSDs, but it quite literally makes my PC faster.

Will have to applaud Windows 7 on its design though. For heavy use it lasts much longer than XP without developing little hiccups and errors. Is also quite a bit easier to keep it cleaned out and simple to use, due to some of the included tools being more powerful than XP.



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Got a bit of a PROBLEM ! WinXP reconizes my External HDD as MASS Storage, but mounts it as a CD-DVD Drive. Anybody got a cure for this
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My problem being is. WindowsXP reconizes my External HDD as mass storage, but mounts it as a CD Drive , any known cures for this would be Appreciated
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20. March 2011 @ 13:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
In your Device Manager is it listed under Disk Drives, DVD / CD-ROM drives, or USB device?

Possible cures would be to uninstall device in Device Manager and manually re-install it. Update your motherboards USB drivers and uninstall/re-install the HDD device.

Or is it just association that is the problem? The device manager sees it as an hdd but Explorer displays it as a CDROM/DVD.

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Device manager lists it as CD Drive
Tried every means of Uninstall , still comes back as CD Drive
I'm going to hook it up to my Computer SATA, as it can be read this way , and copy the files to another Disc, then Format and try again as an External Mass Storage, just takes more time this way as it's a 2 tera Drive
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20. March 2011 @ 15:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by rick5446:
Device manager lists it as CD Drive
Tried every means of Uninstall , still comes back as CD Drive
I'm going to hook it up to my Computer SATA, as it can be read this way , and copy the files to another Disc, then Format and try again as an External Mass Storage, just takes more time this way as it's a 2 tera Drive
It sounds like a driver issue. Do you have a driver disc to support your removable device? If so I would uninstall the driver in the device manager and Manually, don't let XP do it for you, reinstall the driver that supports the USB storage device. If you let Windows select a driver once it thinks it has the right one it will always revert back to the bad driver. If Windows won't let you upgrade the driver to the right one you may have to manually purge the old driver which ccan be a pain.

Re-formating may do the trick too but again it seems to be a driver issue.
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NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE : It's a BLACK X DOCKING STATION.. I'll look it up though
DID NOT HAVE THIS PROBLEM WITH Gigabyte MA79OX-UD4P- it recognized everything , just since installing the MA78GM-S2HP. With the 6 QUAD AMD
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Originally posted by rick5446:
NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE : It's a BLACK X DOCKING STATION.. I'll look it up though
DID NOT HAVE THIS PROBLEM WITH Gigabyte MA79OX-UD4P- it recognized everything , just since installing the MA78GM-S2HP. With the 6 QUAD AMD
You can also try updating your chipset/USB drivers as they could definately be the problem too. My ASRock boards have horrible USB driver support for removable hdd's, my Gigabyte, MSI, ASUS, DFI, and I'm missing a couple more all play well with USB devices.
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Hey Rick,

Have you by any chance gotten the message: This Device can perform faster if ..... Many times only USB1 is installed, and USB2 is supposed to be installed by XP. Sometimes you have to do that manually, from the device manager in the control panel. In the control panel, click on System, then Device manager, then Universal Serial Bus controllers. there should be two listed there as Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller. Right click on the first one, and select Update drivers and follow the instructions. It usually only takes a few seconds. After it is done, do the same with the second one. Don't know for sure if that will help, but it won't hurt anything to try!

Russ

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Well, my Sceptre monitor bought the farm. I was talking to Rick on Messenger and my faithful X20 naga III bit the dust. The video inverter has died, along with the backlight. No Power light either. Oh well, I got another year out of it anyway. For all the use it's had, 5 years is pretty good.

I'm thinking about replacing it with an Asus 21.6" or 23.6" 16x9 widescreen. Don't know if I'll be able to afford the 23.6 though, but I like both monitors, so it really won't matter that much to me. In the meantime, I lugged the big Dell 19" 4:3 monitor out and I'm using it for now. Terrific picture quality, but a bit small for these old eyes!

Russ

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If you have to get one of the 16:9 displays get a 21.6". The 23" screens have average image quality but the 21" ones seem to be pretty nice.



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Hey Russ, my friend from the junkyard got one of those asus 21.6 that you mentioned, I needed to get some work done for him the other day, it was a really nice monitor, I was impressed.
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RUSS Just got his monitor, it'll be at home in about three days...IT YOUR HEART OUT PEOPLE
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ASUS have an excellent display very vibrant and crisp, way to go.
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I've been rockin my 21" ASUS for over a year now with no complaints! It's the main monitor for my dual screen setup.

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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
ASUS have an excellent display very vibrant and crisp, way to go.
I don't know if I'd give the credit to Asus :p Everybody buys the panels from distributors. And the Asus monitor I bought my mother may have a tough road ahead of it. I got her the 23.6 monitor. I recently input the command to have the monitor sleep after 10min of inactivity. When it comes back on, the backlight acts funny. It flickers. My samsung does not do that. Or perhaps I'm nitpicking. Don't get me wrong though. There are manufacturers out there, that seem to sell some pretty dire lcd monitors. No doubt they get the last pickins from the distributor?

Hey russ, remember that Thermaltake Sata dock you recommended and I bought? Oops! LOL! I'm housesitting my brothers house, and I had the device sitting on the floor in front of their HDTV. On top of their entertainment stand is a Scented wax contraption, that heats the wax, allowing scents to fill their home. I decided at one point last night to check if it had anything in it. I was almost certain it was empty given the length of time that had transpired. Nope! I tipped it toward me, and a substantial amount poored out of it, and on to my poor hard drive and sata dock. Thankfully it cooled so fast, it didn't cause any damage. Freaked me out big time though. I had my "Zoe" hard drive with me. That would have irritated me big time. Thankfully it wasn't scented oil. Would have wrecked it for sure!



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Originally posted by Estuansis:
If you have to get one of the 16:9 displays get a 21.6". The 23" screens have average image quality but the 21" ones seem to be pretty nice.
Estuansis,
That depends on which 23.6" you get. If you buy the ML series, the 21.5" and the 23.6" are all 0.248 pixel pitch, while the others are 0.272. That's a big difference in clarity! This is the one that should be here Thursday.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236099

2MS, LED Backlight, 0.248 Pixel Pitch. Asus also has a 23 with a 0.262 Pixel Pitch

Russ

GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor


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I updated my post russ.
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
ASUS have an excellent display very vibrant and crisp, way to go.
I don't know if I'd give the credit to Asus :p Everybody buys the panels from distributors. And the Asus monitor I bought my mother may have a tough road ahead of it. I got her the 23.6 monitor. I recently input the command to have the monitor sleep after 10min of inactivity. When it comes back on, the backlight acts funny. It flickers. My samsung does not do that. Or perhaps I'm nitpicking. Don't get me wrong though. There are manufacturers out there, that seem to sell some pretty dire lcd monitors. No doubt they get the last pickins from the distributor?

Hey russ, remember that Thermaltake Sata dock you recommended and I bought? Oops! LOL! I'm housesitting my brothers house, and I had the device sitting on the floor in front of their HDTV. On top of their entertainment stand is a Scented wax contraption, that heats the wax, allowing scents to fill their home. I decided at one point last night to check if it had anything in it. I was almost certain it was empty given the length of time that had transpired. Nope! I tipped it toward me, and a substantial amount poored out of it, and on to my poor hard drive and sata dock. Thankfully it cooled so fast, it didn't cause any damage. Freaked me out big time though. I had my "Zoe" hard drive with me. That would have irritated me big time. Thankfully it wasn't scented oil. Would have wrecked it for sure!
Oman7,

You would be surprised. Most oils are non conductive, so you could fill it with oil if you wantrd to and it wouldn't hurt it. Remember that big clear tower that was cooled by Vegetable oil?

As far as credit for the picture quality goes I think you more or less credit the monitor manufacturer, because they are the one's that choose what panel goes in what monitor.

Hey, I just inherited half a laptop! LOL!! A HP DV6809wm. A friend gave it to me because he didn't want to spend the money it would take to replace the entire lid and screen assy, that was broken beyond redemption! I told him that the only thing cheap I could do with it was make it into a poor man's desktop by removing the whole lid and screen. I put win7 on it and this baby is fast. He offered me the laptop instead of paying for what I did. This is not a cheap bargain computer, and it's not that old either. Here's the specs.

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01438926&cc=ca&dlc=en&lc=en&jumpid=reg_R1002_CAEN

This one has 4GB Ram (2x2GB) and a 250GB HDD. I would rather have it than the $50 it cost me, which was nothing but time! LOL!! I'm probably going to restore it back to a full laptop! Sweet!

Russ

GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor


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21. March 2011 @ 14:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, at least some of us have good fortune :p My ebay luck has been less than fortunate :( Oh well.



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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Well, at least some of us have good fortune :p My ebay luck has been less than fortunate :( Oh well.
oman7,
Tell you what, the only thing I don't like is the media Center controls are super sensitive, but the sapphire blue lights on it are sure purty! Hell, it's a $1000+ laptop! It even burns DL media! Nice and thin too! :)

Russ

GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor


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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
ASUS have an excellent display very vibrant and crisp, way to go.
I don't know if I'd give the credit to Asus :p Everybody buys the panels from distributors. And the Asus monitor I bought my mother may have a tough road ahead of it. I got her the 23.6 monitor. I recently input the command to have the monitor sleep after 10min of inactivity. When it comes back on, the backlight acts funny. It flickers. My samsung does not do that. Or perhaps I'm nitpicking. Don't get me wrong though. There are manufacturers out there, that seem to sell some pretty dire lcd monitors. No doubt they get the last pickins from the distributor?

Hey russ, remember that Thermaltake Sata dock you recommended and I bought? Oops! LOL! I'm housesitting my brothers house, and I had the device sitting on the floor in front of their HDTV. On top of their entertainment stand is a Scented wax contraption, that heats the wax, allowing scents to fill their home. I decided at one point last night to check if it had anything in it. I was almost certain it was empty given the length of time that had transpired. Nope! I tipped it toward me, and a substantial amount poored out of it, and on to my poor hard drive and sata dock. Thankfully it cooled so fast, it didn't cause any damage. Freaked me out big time though. I had my "Zoe" hard drive with me. That would have irritated me big time. Thankfully it wasn't scented oil. Would have wrecked it for sure!
It is true that there are 5 monitor makers for companies to select from however that is a mood point really. Any manufacture may use one or all of them to build their flat panels so I'm not sure what the relevance is in that statement.

There are bad Sammy's too, just like ViewSonic can make a great monitor and have a shatty one as well. Also pixel size, contrast/brightness, and so on? specs don't always determine that a display will be good or not. There are other factors involved so if you have a high quality, let?s say larger pixel ? less resolution, flat panel it can still look better than a low quality, smaller pixel ? higher resolution, display. Just like statistics specs don't always tell the whole story. This is really true in the Audio world!

I use to buy Scepter monitors too, I had the Komodo 19", several models, and they were good while they worked. The screen was sharp but not as vibrant as a better quality flat panel. Still the price was right and they worked well for the short time of their life span, mine were around 4-5 years too. I also have an old NEC MultiSync LCD1830 - LCD display - TFT (Active) - 18.1 that is over 10 years old now, the resolution is much less than today?s monitors but it is still a very nice monitor and will probably work for another 5 years. Of all of my many monitors Scepters? died out first and I have one value line ViewSonic that is acting up too. My 24? (16:10/1920x1200) Sammy is my nicest monitor but my cheap Auria 24? (16:9/1920x1080) is pretty darn nice too even though the speakers on it suck. So again what?s on paper doesn?t always matter and it is always better to test drive a monitor before buying it, just like in the audio world.
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The Sceptres just seem to me like the low-end of the market. They're cheaper than other displays, but they don't seem to last as long. Image quality is almost moot as within the same market most panels cost about the same, the real issues you get are with how they're fitted, how well the backlights work and so on. Most of the problems with cheap monitors aren't the panel, they're with everything else, i.e. the stuff the brand on the bezel had to do.



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